Pairnic.com

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"ninas.net" is registered with whois.pairnic.com - Mrs Jello

"foxsportsnet.com" is registered with whois.pairnic.com - Ultimate Search


Who are PairNic ? saying these two use them - they must be a new drop club

 

[davidthornton]

Originally posted by Whois-Search
"ninas.net" is registered with whois.pairnic.com - Mrs Jello

"foxsportsnet.com" is registered with whois.pairnic.com - Ultimate Search


Who are PairNic ? saying these two use them - they must be a new drop club

Surprised you don't know that Andrew, being the fount of (mis)information.

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PairNIC are an ICANN registrar owned by Pair Networks - Pair.com - the largest privately owned hosting company in the world (I believe). I have had a web hosting account with them since January 1998 and I cannot fault them. They used to be an OpenSRS reseller but have now gained ICANN accreditation (although I have forgotten exactly how recently).

PairNIC chase for Snapnames. You can obtain a list of all the registrars that chase for Snapnames from Snapnames.com, since all their individual T&Cs have to be listed near the Snapnames account sign-up section.

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Snapnames

 

[DomainSage]

Pairnic uses snapnames?

 

[Whois-Search]

PairNic gets names for Snapnames

so do these :

VeriSign
BulkRegister
Namescout
Directi
DomainPeople
DomainSite
NamesBeyond
NamesDirect
domaindiscount24
4Domains
NameSystem
TotalRegistrations
NameBay
1dni
EnCirca

 

[DNbuy]

Does anyone have the inside scoop as to which of these companies is dissatisfied with snapnames service?

 

[Ed30]

Pardon my ignorance, but how do you mean "gets names for Snapnames". If a name is going to drop you either snap it or you don't. Please explain.

 

[davidthornton]

Originally posted by DomainSage
Pairnic uses snapnames?

No Snapnames use PairNIC.

That's what I said in my reply (if you read it to the end)

 

[davidthornton]

Originally posted by DNbuy
Does anyone have the inside scoop as to which of these companies is dissatisfied with snapnames service?

Contact them all and ask?

 

[davidthornton]

Originally posted by Ed30
Pardon my ignorance, but how do you mean "gets names for Snapnames". If a name is going to drop you either snap it or you don't. Please explain.

Read Snapnames.com site. The concept behind how Snapnames functions is explained.

 

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Ed30

Snapnames Pays the registers above $$$$ to use their RRP

Snapnames doesn't have a right to any name - they have to pay the registers to try and catch it - but they will have when WLS comes out

 

[stuff]

I have contacted some ICANN ac. registrars, asking for drop service, one click utility and so on, her is one answer I have got:

Dear Sir/Madam,

We are not giving one click service, but we do have drop services.
We collaborate on this issue only with our partners under a special
agreement.
We will be happy to discuss a partnership option with you in case you
operate in large quantities.
The volume of 1000 domains/month (total listed domains, not successful)
is the case to set an agreement between us for a cooperation regarding
domains drops.
We have to discuss the mutual interfaces (information exchange) and
prepare it to the most efficient way to get highest success in drops
grabbings.
Our agreement is in general based on fixed monthly fee to cover the
grabbing process plus a fee for succesfully registered domains at
several optional levels.
Please let me know what is your preffered aproach regarding the domains
candidates and drops processing.

Best Regards

 

[DomainSage]

What good does it do for SnapNames to partner with these registrars? I mean all dropped names are available to the public at the same exact time, no registrar has a priority.

 

[davidthornton]

Originally posted by DomainSage
What good does it do for SnapNames to partner with these registrars? I mean all dropped names are available to the public at the same exact time, no registrar has a priority.

Because the registrars they partner with use their personal 3rd pool of threads, as given to them by Verisign GRS, in an attempt to grab the names.

RRP is the best way to get a high quality name. It's run on the registrars machines so no API to interface through and so it can be as fast as possible.

Snapnames is effectively selling indirect access to RRP, as controlled by the registrars that partner with them.

Snapnames is an easy interface to RRP for Joe Public.

 

[Whois-Search]

Registry Registrar Protocol (RRP)
A protocol for the registration and management of second level domain names and associated name servers in both Top Level Domains (TLDs) and country code Top Level Domains (ccTLDs). This protocol was developed by the Network Solutions Registry for use within the Shared Registration System. RRP is a TCP-based, 7-bit US-ASCII text protocol that permits multiple registrars to provide second level Internet domain name registration services in the top level domains (TLDs) administered by a TLD registry.

 

[DomainSage]

Thank you for that definition, but that doesn't make anyone with access to RRP catch names faster. Or does it? If so, explain.

 

[davidthornton]

Originally posted by DomainSage
Thank you for that definition, but that doesn't make anyone with access to RRP catch names faster. Or does it? If so, explain.

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Read my last post.

RRP = Best chance to get a good domain name. It's operated by registrars themeselves and so is 'one hop' away from the registry, controlled by Versign GRS. There's no other hoops to jump through, systems to slow things down or whatever.

If someone with a decent knowledge of the RRP is going after a name using a substantial number of threads, from the 3rd pool that each registrar has, then they're pretty much going to beat everyone to the name except perhaps someone else using RRP elsewhere.

If you have to try to register it through a registrar API, like end users do, at OpenSRS or ENOM or whatever things just won't/cannot happen as quickly.

I hope you can understand this now. I've really tried.

 

[DomainSage]

I do understand. Thanks.

 

[DomainSage]

David, just one thing. The way you describe it seems that only one RRP connection would be enough, why does SnapNames try to have many?

 

[davidthornton]

Originally posted by DomainSage
David, just one thing. The way you describe it seems that only one RRP connection would be enough, why does SnapNames try to have many?

Each registrar has, I think (correct me if I am wrong, someone), 40 threads allocated them for their 'pool 3'. Snapnames partners with so many registrars so when they come to split their list of daily backordered names amongst the total number of threads (i.e. 40 x total number of contracted registrars to Snapnames = Total number of threads available to Snapnames customers) they will have the best chance of securing the name.

It's also easy money, although not fantastic compared to other ways of profiting from 'pool 3', for the registrar because they get a fairly easy 'plug-in' system from Snapnames and a cheque each month, I imagine.

Other registrars choose not to partner with Snapnames and offer various other systems.