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  1. TheLegendaryJP

    TheLegendaryJP Exclusive Member

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    I am unsure how accurate the report is but when I read the domain it reminded me of a discussion here, is it still owned by a dnf member here ( Bionic )? Is this you Bionic that Frager refers to?

    Here is the article :eek:

    http://fragerfactor.blogspot.com/

    Monday, December 13, 2010
    Aussie Porn Mafia Orders Hit on Rick Schwartz

    "You think you're the father of the Internet, inside 5 years I'll run the DNS and take porno.com and everything you got, bank balance included.

    In an apparent deal gone bad after an Aussie porn producer tried to convince Rick to test a new affiliate program to redirecting his site Porno.com to CamGirls.com, threats are being made and legal action is pending. " You're comparing your trash landing page to Streamate.com? asks Graham Cooper owner of WifeFinder and Sex Machine from Kings Beach in Queensland. "This is the biggest ****ing cunt thing anybody has done to me, and I have the most numerous most powerful enemies of all time. You'll spend 10 years in a dingy for your next voyage. That's the biggest ****ing renege in all history you ASSHOLE."

    Penthouse owns Cams.com, a $50,000,000 per year site, their little sister to AdultFriendFinder.com. Mr. Cooper offered Rick $5,000 in affiliate commissions for the redirect. Rick currently earns over $1 million a year with the current and long-term feed provider. Rick's response to Cooper that drove Cooper ballistic after rejection of his offer, "Thanks, but not worth disrupting what I have. Wrong direction at that level."

    Cooper has a history of using threats and intimidation trying to wrangle the legitimate proeperty of others away under UDRP. Court papers identify Graham as "I Graham Andrew Cooper am a retired computer programmer and school teacher, theoretical computer scientist and paranormal claimant. I was employed as a contract computer programmer in Western Australia by Drillex, Minepro, Western Mining Corporation and FastTrack Computer Services to name a few. I cannot work due to being labelled an extortionist by WIN News among others, so I currently own the website CamGirls.com and operate a pay per minute adult video conferencing website. For comparison Cams.com is owned by Penthouse and Adult Friend Finder, the world's largest dating website, and they declared a $32 million profit in 2007 with Cams.com."
    Posted by s at 6:43 AM 0 comments
    Labels: domain names, pornography, rick schwartz

    Interesting though, we are missing pieces....There must be alot of communication not mentioned, for example why would Cooper say "That's the biggest ****ing renege in all history you ASSHOLE" if there was no deal reached. If it was always a clear rejection, the statement doesnt make sense. I dunno maybe more will come out...
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  2. DomainsInc

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    Seems like all BS. The guy who owns camgirls.com (who is/was indeed bionic) also posted frequently on gfy until he was basically made fun of his poor attempts at doing anything with camgirls to the point he left. unless he sold the domain to someone else i can't see it being true.
  3. TheLegendaryJP

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    I considered that too, that he sold it. I am not sure though, can anyone confirm Bionics real name?

    Ok, looked at whois history, it went from nameadmininc to Graham Cooper back in early 09.... so looks like it's still him, shame to hear this really.
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    WOW, Rick posted it all eh, gee golly wally that was sad to read.

    Thanks for the link ;)


    Moron Alert! This is what an Ugly/Threatening Email Looks Like.
    Moron Alert!

    As a habit I don’t publish emails. But when threats come, all bets are off. Folks need to know what type folks they deal with. Here is something all need to see and read. Plus I must set the record straight before it gets off the track.

    Initial email I receive yesterday:

    Hi Rick!

    Would you consider a partnership with Porno.com and CamGirls.com?
    Your traffic directed to my cashcow! 50/50 profits split.
    Penthouse owns Cams.com, a $50,000,000 per year site, their little sister to AdultFriendFinder.com

    Streamate.com and LiveJasmin.com are 10 times bigger!

    CamGirls.com is a Streamate cobrand at the moment, but 90% of surfers can't tell the difference,

    running a solo site would give us more control.

    Some estimated figures.

    Porno.com traffic = 25,000/day
    Conversion = 500:1
    Signups/day = 50
    Income = 50 * $100 = $5,000 / day

    That's just direct sales, expect 10X expansion, Jasmin is Alexa rank 50 with 20 Million hits/day.

    Hope to hear from you!

    Graham Cooper
    PH +61 420849965--
    www.CamGirls.com | www.CamAffiliate.com





    My Response:

    Hi Graham,
    I would consider testing the traffic with a link to see if we can get some conversions and then expanding.

    Rick



    His response:

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Graham Cooper <grahamcooper7@gmail.com>

    To: Rick Schwartz <mr800king@aol.com>
    Sent: Sun, Dec 12, 2010 8:01 pm
    Subject: Re: Porno.com inquiry

    Hi Rick,

    I would try a redirect to the pornstars section, very hot ladies and some guys

    spend $1000 / day due to the higher rates $10+ per minute.

    http://www.camgirls.com/?AFNO=1-100

    http://www.camgirls.com/webcam/pornstars/?AFNO=1-100

    Cheers

    Graham



    My Response:

    On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Rick Schwartz <mr800king@aol.com> wrote:

    Hi Graham,

    Thanks, but not worth disrupting what I have. Wrong direction at that level.

    Rick



    His Response turns ugly

    On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Graham Cooper <grahamcooper7@gmail.com> wrote:

    What level, Camgirls is a front end for a billion dollar cam site?
    You're comparing your trash landing page to Streamate.com ?

    I hope you reconsider, it's only a 24 hour test and I don't see how this

    is going to relinquish any setup with Porno.com landing page sponsors.

    I'm not sure what your problem is, you renege out of a billion dollar partnership

    over a day's earnings?

    Shit, what a spastic you turned out to be



    My Response:

    Every time I have ever emailed you over the years you turn into a name calling ass.

    I should have known better than to answer you. My bad!



    Now he goes off the deepend:

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Graham Cooper <grahamcooper7@gmail.com>
    To: Rick Schwartz <mr800king@aol.com>

    Sent: Mon, Dec 13, 2010 5:55 am
    Subject: Re: Porno.com inquiry

    You think you're the father of the internet, inside 5 years I'll run the DNS and take porno.com and everything you got, bank balance included.

    Graham Cooper
    Groom Computer
    Wife Finder
    Sex Machine
    Genesis Adam

    KINGS BEACH, QUEENSLAND

    what a lying ****ing prickteaser, I'll **** you up so hard you won't believe it

    this is the biggest ****ing cunt thing anybody has done to me,

    and I have the most numerous most powerful enemies of all time

    You'll spend 10 years in a dingy for your next voyage

    That's the biggest ****ing renege in all history you ASSHOLE



    My Responsee:

    On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Rick Schwartz <mr800king@aol.com> wrote:

    Good!

    Cuz I am going to POST this email for everyone to see what you are.

    Plus, as you can see, I am cc'ing a few folks and will keep sending. Many more!

    I don't take kindly to threats. Now you can deal with it.

    Have a nice life.



    And then, all these from him:



    #1

    name 1!

    I am the son of God and have perfect memory.

    I channel the word of God with your blog daily for 5 years.

    I was your number 1 fan.



    #2

    That's the biggest ****ing renege in all history you ASSHOLE

    #3

    You call that a spamlist?

    I send goatse to 55 FBI departments for fun!

    #4

    Don't forget to quote your offer you reneged on!

    I'll put you NBC you fool, I'll give you 20 years for fraud and **** your wife

    #5

    Hi Tim,
    No go on the CamGirls.com / Porno.com deal.
    Guy reneged on his offer, famous internet guru worth $50 million,
    but not worth his word.
    so I'm back to rentals! haha
    cheers
    Gray
    The last email he sent to law enforcement and everyone he knows. But he failed to put the entire conversation so I am correcting the record. Like I said, when you pull SHIT like this, all bets are off. EVERYONE needs to know things like this. Thugs don't deserve any privacy or protection.
    apnmanager@justice.qld.gov.au; mailbox@cmc.qld.gov.au; Recruiting@police.qld.gov.au; escstatecoordinator@police.qld.gov.au; PolicelinkEnquiry@police.qld.gov.au; marshalls@winqld.com.au; news@nine.com.au; 60minutesmail@nine.com.au; today@nine.com.au; aca@nine.com.au; rocknews@winqld.com.au; 10news@ten.com.au; news@7perth.com.au; newsdesk@theage.com.au; subscriber.benefits@theage.com.au; newspics@7perth.com.au; kphilp@bennettphilp.com.au; mjones@bennettphilp.com.au; bsmith@bennettphilp.com.au; mcoates@bennettphilp.com.au; ssawyer@bennettphilp.com.au; lpollard@bennettphilp.com.au; mbigg@bennettphilp.com.au; moconnor@bennettphilp.com.au; abennett@bennettphilp.com.au; kbarratt@bennettphilp.com.au; jharvey@bennettphilp.com.au; alambros@bennettphilp.com.au; kkeenan@bennettphilp.com.au; cng@bennettphilp.com.au; nbraad@bennettphilp.com.au; bruback@bennettphilp.com.au; cyoung@bennettphilp.com.au; msingleton@bennettphilp.com.au; nsabaini@bennettphilp.com.au; krussell@bennettphilp.com.au; dpitt@bennettphilp.com.au; lnowlan@bennettphilp.com.au; pmole@bennettphilp.com.au; gmorris@bennettphilp.com.au; milwaukee@ic.fbi.gov; newhaven@ic.fbi.gov; ny1@ic.fbi.gov; neworleans@ic.fbi.gov; norfolk_fo@ic.fbi.gov; philadelphia.complaints@ic.fbi.gov; portland@ic.fbi.gov; richmond@ic.fbi.gov; saltlakecity@ic.fbi.gov; sanantonio@ic.fbi.gov; san.francisco@ic.fbi.gov; seattle.fbi@ic.fbi.gov; springfield@ic.fbi.gov; stlouis@ic.fbi.gov; tampa.division@ic.fbi.gov; washington.field@ic.fbi.gov; jacksonville@ic.fbi.gov; knoxville@ic.fbi.gov; fbijn@leo.gov; indianapolis@ic.fbi.gov; houston.texas@ic.fbi.gov; fbi.dallas@ic.fbi.gov; cleveland.cv@ic.fbi.gov; chicago@ic.fbi.gov; charlotte.public@ic.fbi.gov; boston@ic.fbi.gov; birmingham@ic.fbi.gov; atlanta@ic.fbi.gov; aq.fbi@ic.fbi.gov; aocc-monitoring@afp.gov.au; mel-omc@afp.gov.au; adl-omc@afp.gov.au; cns-omc@afp.gov.au; bne-omc@afp.gov.au; syd-omc@afp.gov.au; aocc-client-liaison@afp.gov.au; brandon@randi.org; djgrothe@randi.org; jref@randi.org; challenge@randi.org; editor@skeptics.com.au; nsw@skeptics.com.au; letters@csicop.org; info@csicop.org; contact@richarddawkins.net; peter@ratbags.com; tony@tonyyouens.com; letters@time.com; news@theregister.co.uk; president@whitehouse.org; kerrianne@nine.com.au; Website.feedback@justice.qld.gov.au; courthouse.atherton@justice.qld.gov.au; courthouse.ayr@justice.qld.gov.au; courthouse.barcaldine@justice.qld.gov.au; courthouse.beenleigh@justice.qld.gov.au; courthouse.biloela@justice.qld.gov.au; courthouse.beaudesert@justice.qld.gov.au; courthouse.blackwater@justice.qld.gov.au; courthouse.bowen@justice.qld.gov.au; Courthouse.bundaberg@justice.qld.gov.au; courtinfo@justice.qld.gov.au; DC-Appeals@justice.qld.gov.au; DC-PEListmanager@justice.qld.gov.au; courthouse.Brisbane@justice.qld.gov.au; courthouse.caboolture@justice.qld.gov.au; CairnsHCRegistry@justice.qld.gov.au; courthouse.cairns@justice.qld.gov.au; courthouse.caloundra@justice.qld.gov.au; courthouse.maroochydore@justice.qld.gov.au; StateRCMCoordESC@police.qld.gov.au


    My Response to all those cc’ed

    Please at least put in the ENTIRE text of the emails and your threats to me so your law enforcement folks can see what you are. (Entire text as above follows)

    Rick Schwartz

    UPDATE: Just got this in: A little about Grahm http://popetoyou.com/
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  6. DomainsInc

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    after reading whats on ricks blog, i could believe its him however he is no 'aussie porn mafia'.. hes just one guy with obvious anger issues.
  7. Tia Wood

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    His "About Me" section says "bionic AKA Gray"?
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  8. Theo

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    Bionic goes around posting how he spent $300k buying camgirls.com - then he would not spend $150 on a logo ;) Eventually he put an affiliate site on it, which makes sense.
    Truth be told, Rick's porno.com was recently updated; the previous page was crap.
    Still, Bionic's passive-aggressive emails to Rick show the guy's a cuckoo.
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    Aussie Porn Mafia lol, that could be a new reality show.
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    Where do you get your intel fool?

    Rick asked for the affiliate link to test traffic on redirecting Porno.com to Camgirls.com.

    It could have got 100 Credit Card signups / day who knows.

    I set it up with Streamate.com, gave him the link then he trashed Camgirls.com, like Legenary and his $5000 appraisal.

    I pay cash for rent with no government records so I can enjoy free speech, taking down Rick included.
  11. Tia Wood

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    I don't understand? Over a business proposal gone bad? Seems a little over the top.....
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    You weren't the one ripped off. This was a $billion reneg in my book. $30K per week in traffic offered if the conversions were good.
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    Obviously you never heard of the old saying that you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. ;) Even if you are right about the traffic, you're having one nasty attitude with Rick.

    As for the original camgirls logo, you seem to have a short memory. The fact is I designed it for you after you nickeled and dimed Tia Wood.

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    Oh I haggled down to $150 is that what you're saying? It wasn't bad, the 2 blue women, converted OK at videosecrets.com

    I spent $1000s on logos though, have 20 of them
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    The fact is, Bionic that you need to understand bad-mouthing others or acting up in ways that you did takes away from your credibility and self-professed status. Even if that weren't Rick Schwartz but Joe Blow, your email responses were nasty. Think about it: who will want to do business with you after Rick's outing of your threats?
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    Coming from you? If someone disagrees with you you go volatile for days on end.

    Now you can all throw around the term THREAT and track down phony news stories from 2002 until the cows come home, but the FACT is you know the truth about the matter. You lie, you cheat, you rip off, you call me always-abusive over the word spastic.

    I've have more 6 and 7 figure carrots waved in my face and lying morons reneg than all of DNF put together.
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    The shmok of the year award?
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    LOL typical passive-aggressive response :D When you lose focus that easily, now attacking me or others, it's evident whose in the wrong in the story Rick published.


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    Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!
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