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Talk about a scary decision.
A domainer just lost a domain he paid $20,000 to acquire and recently valued it at $100K.
A three member WIPO panel took away, what most of us would regard to be a Geo domain, Hayward.com and wwwhayward.com and awarded it to the trademark holder Hayward Industries.
Hayward is a city in California with a population of 150,000 people.
Here are the facts as laid out by the panel:
ââThe WhoIs records show that the domain name <hayward.com> was created on July 26, 1995, and the domain name <wwwhayward.com> was created on August 14, 2004. The Respondent acquired the rights to the domain name on or about July 31, 2006.â
Respondent states that âRespondent, Chad Wright, aka WebQuest.com, Inc. is in the business of providing pay-per-click search engines offered through his geographical domain namesâ and that âRespondent also owns generic domain namesâ¦â Respondent paid over $20,000 for the domain name <hayward.com>.
ââComplainant states that it sent a demand letter to Respondent regarding the disputed domain name <hayward.com> on August 1, 2006, a copy of which Complainant provided as an annex to the Complaint. In a response, also included as an annex to the Complaint, Respondentâs counsel wrote in a letter dated August 4, 2006, that Respondent âis the registrant of geographically designated domain namesâ and that Respondent would âprevail in any legal dispute over the geographical name <Hayward.com>â¦â
ââComplainant states that Respondent offered the domain name <hayward.com> for sale via an online auction, ending November 4, 2009, with an âopening minimum bidâ of $100,000.00, as shown in an e-mail from SnapNames dated October 29, 2009.ââ
âââComplainant states that â[t]he main page of the âwww.hayward.comâ web site is a typical minimalist site set up by cybersquatters for the sole purpose of generating click-through revenue. Most notably, upon entering âhaywardâ in the provided search bar, the user is inundated with sponsored links to web sites that provide access to the products of [Complainantâs] direct competitors.â Complainant further states that although the domain name <wwwhayward.com> âno longer resolves to an active page,â a previous website associated with that domain name, included as an annex to the Complaint, included links to Complainantâs competitorsâââ.
âââRespondent is correct in its observations that the word âHaywardâ is the name of a city in California (and also has other definitions) and that pay-per-click (âPPCâ) websites do not necessarily indicate that a Respondent lacks rights or legitimate interests.â
âââHowever⦠the websites associated with the disputed domain names in this case contain (or contained) pages with links offering or leading to pages with links offering goods or services that are competitive with the goods and services offered by Complainant under its HAYWARD Trademark.â
âClearly, the disputed domain names are therefore not being used solely in connection with their geographic meaning. â
The panel found that:
âIt is by now well established that PPC parking pages built around a trademark (as contrasted with PPC pages built around a dictionary word and used only in connection with the generic or merely descriptive meaning of the word) do not constitute a bona fide offering of goods or services pursuant to paragraph 4(c)(i) of the Policy, nor do they constitute a legitimate non-commercial or fair use pursuant to paragraph 4(c)(iii).â
ââRespondent has not shown that it has used, or made demonstrable preparations to use, either of the disputed domain names in connection with websites about the city of Hayward, despite a statement from Respondentâs counsel more than three years ago indicating that <hayward.com> was a part of Respondentâs portfolio of domain names that correspond to geographical names in the same region of California.â
âWhile Respondent was not obligated to immediately use either of the disputed domain names in connection with geographic-specific websites, Respondent should not have parked the domain name in the interim with a page that improperly profited off of the value of Complainantâs trademark with PPC revenue.ââ
ââFinally, the Panel finds it informative â though not decisive â that, according to documents in the record, Respondent purchased the domain name <hayward.com> for USD$20,000 and was attempting to sell it for at least USD$100,000. ââ
ââThese figures would seem to indicate that Respondent saw some value in this domain name for reasons other than its existence as the name of the city of Hayward, California â with a population of only about 150,000 people and for purposes other than as a PPC parking page (which, in the normal course, would not be expected to earn a return to justify such a rich investment).ââ
Iâm not sure I have ever read a WIPO decision where the panel looked at the purchase price and then determined the motivation for the purchase based ont he price.
They are basically saying that $20K for Hayward.com a city of just 150,000 people is way too much.
If the domainer only paid $5K for the domain would have the panel then found the domain owner could have indeed bought it just for the value as a city?
If not then why would a WIPO panel even go down this line of reasoning and discuss the purchase price?
A domainer just lost a domain he paid $20,000 to acquire and recently valued it at $100K.
A three member WIPO panel took away, what most of us would regard to be a Geo domain, Hayward.com and wwwhayward.com and awarded it to the trademark holder Hayward Industries.
Hayward is a city in California with a population of 150,000 people.
Here are the facts as laid out by the panel:
ââThe WhoIs records show that the domain name <hayward.com> was created on July 26, 1995, and the domain name <wwwhayward.com> was created on August 14, 2004. The Respondent acquired the rights to the domain name on or about July 31, 2006.â
Respondent states that âRespondent, Chad Wright, aka WebQuest.com, Inc. is in the business of providing pay-per-click search engines offered through his geographical domain namesâ and that âRespondent also owns generic domain namesâ¦â Respondent paid over $20,000 for the domain name <hayward.com>.
ââComplainant states that it sent a demand letter to Respondent regarding the disputed domain name <hayward.com> on August 1, 2006, a copy of which Complainant provided as an annex to the Complaint. In a response, also included as an annex to the Complaint, Respondentâs counsel wrote in a letter dated August 4, 2006, that Respondent âis the registrant of geographically designated domain namesâ and that Respondent would âprevail in any legal dispute over the geographical name <Hayward.com>â¦â
ââComplainant states that Respondent offered the domain name <hayward.com> for sale via an online auction, ending November 4, 2009, with an âopening minimum bidâ of $100,000.00, as shown in an e-mail from SnapNames dated October 29, 2009.ââ
âââComplainant states that â[t]he main page of the âwww.hayward.comâ web site is a typical minimalist site set up by cybersquatters for the sole purpose of generating click-through revenue. Most notably, upon entering âhaywardâ in the provided search bar, the user is inundated with sponsored links to web sites that provide access to the products of [Complainantâs] direct competitors.â Complainant further states that although the domain name <wwwhayward.com> âno longer resolves to an active page,â a previous website associated with that domain name, included as an annex to the Complaint, included links to Complainantâs competitorsâââ.
âââRespondent is correct in its observations that the word âHaywardâ is the name of a city in California (and also has other definitions) and that pay-per-click (âPPCâ) websites do not necessarily indicate that a Respondent lacks rights or legitimate interests.â
âââHowever⦠the websites associated with the disputed domain names in this case contain (or contained) pages with links offering or leading to pages with links offering goods or services that are competitive with the goods and services offered by Complainant under its HAYWARD Trademark.â
âClearly, the disputed domain names are therefore not being used solely in connection with their geographic meaning. â
The panel found that:
âIt is by now well established that PPC parking pages built around a trademark (as contrasted with PPC pages built around a dictionary word and used only in connection with the generic or merely descriptive meaning of the word) do not constitute a bona fide offering of goods or services pursuant to paragraph 4(c)(i) of the Policy, nor do they constitute a legitimate non-commercial or fair use pursuant to paragraph 4(c)(iii).â
ââRespondent has not shown that it has used, or made demonstrable preparations to use, either of the disputed domain names in connection with websites about the city of Hayward, despite a statement from Respondentâs counsel more than three years ago indicating that <hayward.com> was a part of Respondentâs portfolio of domain names that correspond to geographical names in the same region of California.â
âWhile Respondent was not obligated to immediately use either of the disputed domain names in connection with geographic-specific websites, Respondent should not have parked the domain name in the interim with a page that improperly profited off of the value of Complainantâs trademark with PPC revenue.ââ
ââFinally, the Panel finds it informative â though not decisive â that, according to documents in the record, Respondent purchased the domain name <hayward.com> for USD$20,000 and was attempting to sell it for at least USD$100,000. ââ
ââThese figures would seem to indicate that Respondent saw some value in this domain name for reasons other than its existence as the name of the city of Hayward, California â with a population of only about 150,000 people and for purposes other than as a PPC parking page (which, in the normal course, would not be expected to earn a return to justify such a rich investment).ââ
Iâm not sure I have ever read a WIPO decision where the panel looked at the purchase price and then determined the motivation for the purchase based ont he price.
They are basically saying that $20K for Hayward.com a city of just 150,000 people is way too much.
If the domainer only paid $5K for the domain would have the panel then found the domain owner could have indeed bought it just for the value as a city?
If not then why would a WIPO panel even go down this line of reasoning and discuss the purchase price?