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Whoever the guy is, he makes good points and astute observations about the domain industry.
I would like to see his portfolio too, because the glimpse of it didn't look great :)
 
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A few weeks ago I posted this on domaining.com:

FacingTheAbsurd.com = Jan Barta = Elephant-Traffic.com = Elephant-Orchestra.com
In their own words "Elephant Orchestra is a dynamic and fast-growing internet media company based in Prague, in the Czech Republic. Our core businesses are Direct Navigation and Lead Generation." Jan Barta is the chairman.

If he is Jan Barta, it is different from whois of FacingtheAbsurd.com and also Jan Barta has been in the internet industry since 1999 apparently.

https://www.elephant-traffic.com/about/
 

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i am pretty sure it's him and he looks older than his age because of all of the partying (success) ;)
 

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Let's see.....claims to be taking in $20k a day...or $7,300,000 a year after 2 1/2 years startup.
I am skeptical to say the least, but who knows.

Maybe he will put out a course like the "Arbitrage Conspiracy"....that character charged about $3k to show "everyone" how to make $50,000 a day. lol

As they say "where's the beef". For starters, media articles on the guy from Czech Republic?
 

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i was thinking if it's czech republic and rapidly growing then it must be elephant orchestra
many nice domains too.
i was looking at them coincidentally recently and marvelling how they have grown
dont bid on their domains at sedo, just when you're close to closing they send to auction. sorry had to warn everyone lol

also they seem to be doing the rounds at all the conferences these days, if it is them i guess this is a well thought out ploy for self promotion against what they originally claim its not.
dont get me wrong im all for self promotion, who else is gonna do it? lol

expect banners etc to appear and links etc soon
also they're linking to the usual suspects themselves
 

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The one thing I would be affraid of is one solid lawsuit where you loose or have to settle wipes you out :)

There have been at least a couple examples where companies like verizon can have you settle for millions.
 

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Are you saying John Stevens = Jan Barta ?

http://whois.domaintools.com/facingtheabsurd.com

The blog domain was freshy registered just last month.

Previous UDRP on case he/she won using the same .CZ email address say's this: "...1.2 The Respondent is Mary Lamb, of 111 Lamb Street Nairobi, Kenya."



Registrant:
John Stevens
Belize

Domain Name: FACINGTHEABSURD.COM
Created on: 19-Feb-10
admin contact: Stevens, John
knedlo-vepro-zelo/AT/seznam.cz
 
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David, the portfolio is mainly TM's which clearly would be tied to false whois. Jan is a good guy I am sure but bragging about your tm portfolio being worth millions is stupid.
 

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David, the portfolio is mainly TM's which clearly would be tied to false whois. Jan is a good guy I am sure but bragging about your tm portfolio being worth millions is stupid.

Was not aware of that or knew who Jon Barta was.

Even so, 7 million dollars in year revenue is beyond amazing.
 

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Was not aware of that or knew who Jon Barta was.

Even so, 7 million dollars in year revenue is beyond amazing.


Yes and what is amazing is how he is seemingly bragging about it. Lets say I was verizon/dell/disney/microsoft, anyone half way big and I discover this group owns a typo name or 4 of mine and is infringing. Let me see they are bragging about making millions, do I just C&D them or hit them up for $100K each?

What he has done is great regardless of how you view it from a pure dollar perspective, what he is doing now is foolish. He tried the generic route a bit for a time, remember mr.org and 11.com? He has bought and sold a bunch but generics are not the source here, after getting lucky once or twice he soon discovered he was overpaying from what I could tell. TM's are so much easier.
 

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all of the hot shots in this industry have financed their nice generic portfolios with revenue from tasted / potentially tm names... kevin ham, oversee, even frank schilling got in some of the action

they got away with it because they mostly stayed under the radar

anyways, let mr. barta do whatever he wants to.... get off his d*ck :)
 

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all of the hot shots in this industry have financed their nice generic portfolios with revenue from tasted / potentially tm names... kevin ham, oversee, even frank schilling got in some of the action

they got away with it because they mostly stayed under the radar

anyways, let mr. barta do whatever he wants to.... get off his d*ck :)
sure, don't know why he brags about it though. its just going to bring unwanted attention.
 

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Exactly, no one is naive to how most big players built revenue machines, they can claim ignorance " oh it must have come in a package " etc but at least that is the opposite of bragging.
 

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lol

lets try this again...

jan barta, of elephant traffic and elephant orchestra, is the one who is blogging over at facingtheabsurd.com

he writes everything....... as for who john stevens is, who knows and who even cares? :)

Ok. Whois data confused me.

If that's the case, Jan Barta is not new to domain and website development business. He started buying a domain in 1999 or may be earlier and developed a site and sold. Therefore it is wrong to say he took only 2 and half years but in fact he had been in internet business since 1999. I think Frank Shilling only started in internet business in 2001 or so?
 
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