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Visitor programs/businesses are frauds

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kodeking

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*Powervisitors is NOT a real company, just used to simplify this report

I tested multiple companies that provide unique visitors and found the same results all the time. Visitor's are definately not unique. I tested this on pages that are not linked to anywhere, fresh pages for each test. These are stats that I have logged with one of the 4 methods of tracking that I used on Powervisitors*:

These are the ip numbers of each page load (time frame: 2 minutes)
24.14.151.202
24.14.151.202
24.14.151.202
217.44.150.96
217.44.150.96

64.11.244.6
217.44.150.96
217.44.150.96
217.44.150.96
217.44.150.96

64.11.244.6
24.31.163.207
24.14.151.202
64.11.244.6
24.80.162.93
24.80.162.93
68.185.220.135
12.65.162.194
68.185.220.135
24.80.162.93
68.185.220.135
4.10.156.120
12.65.162.194

I watched my IP log and the stats page I was supplied by Powervisitors* and each of these views was counted as a unique Powervisitors'* system.

I also used extreme tracking's counter service and that only registered as 7 uniques after Powervisitors* stats registered 100 uniques. I know that people will say that the browser window may have been closed before images could load, but I had a protection against that. I had activeX install prompts load which allowed the entire page load before it could have been closed.

Now I also know that people could have activeX COMPLETELY disabled, but 93 out of 100 people is not a very probable number.

I also used the InstantCounter.com service to track views, and that registered the same as extremetracking's stats.

Bottom line: I think these are automated hits coming from software that emulates visits. Even if they were real people, the 'uniques' counting is very inaccurate and should be considered fraud.

*Powervisitors is NOT a real company, just used to simplify this report

I would love if other users could post thier thoughts and experience.

Thanks for reading my rant!
 
kodeking said:
*Powervisitors is NOT a real company, just used to simplify this report

I tested multiple companies that provide unique visitors and found the same results all the time. Visitor's are definately not unique. I tested this on pages that are not linked to anywhere, fresh pages for each test. These are stats that I have logged with one of the 4 methods of tracking that I used on Powervisitors*:

These are the ip numbers of each page load (time frame: 2 minutes)
24.14.151.202
24.14.151.202
24.14.151.202
217.44.150.96
217.44.150.96

64.11.244.6
217.44.150.96
217.44.150.96
217.44.150.96
217.44.150.96

64.11.244.6
24.31.163.207
24.14.151.202
64.11.244.6
24.80.162.93
24.80.162.93
68.185.220.135
12.65.162.194
68.185.220.135
24.80.162.93
68.185.220.135
4.10.156.120
12.65.162.194

I watched my IP log and the stats page I was supplied by Powervisitors* and each of these views was counted as a unique Powervisitors'* system.

I also used extreme tracking's counter service and that only registered as 7 uniques after Powervisitors* stats registered 100 uniques. I know that people will say that the browser window may have been closed before images could load, but I had a protection against that. I had activeX install prompts load which allowed the entire page load before it could have been closed.

Now I also know that people could have activeX COMPLETELY disabled, but 93 out of 100 people is not a very probable number.

I also used the InstantCounter.com service to track views, and that registered the same as extremetracking's stats.

Bottom line: I think these are automated hits coming from software that emulates visits. Even if they were real people, the 'uniques' counting is very inaccurate and should be considered fraud.

*Powervisitors is NOT a real company, just used to simplify this report

I would love if other users could post thier thoughts and experience.

Thanks for reading my rant!

Thanks for the report. Always good to see things that should be avoided.

I think you should mention the name of the sponsor when exposing such
scams, so others don't use them. Perhaps in the warning forum?

Luc L.
 
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