Any tricks to getting listed with DMOZ?

[Shane]

I'm looking to get two sites listed with DMOZ. I've never attempted this before so any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Shane

 

[PeterMan]

Wow I didn't even know that it was still around. I had a few sites listed years ago, the main tip I can give you is to follow the procedures on their suggest URL page to a tee http://www.dmoz.org/docs/en/add.html). Ensure that you choose the most appropriate category. If the sites are quality they should get listed...

 

[Shane]

Wow I didn't even know that it was still around. I had a few sites listed years ago, the main tip I can give you is to follow the procedures on their suggest URL page to a tee http://www.dmoz.org/docs/en/add.html). Ensure that you choose the most appropriate category. If the sites are quality they should get listed...

Hey Peter. Thanks for the response. I was expecting to jump through more hoops lol.

 

[dcristo]

It's no magic bullet for SEO. Submit and forget about it. If you get accepted consider it a bonus.

 

[Shane]

It's no magic bullet for SEO. Submit and forget about it. If you get accepted consider it a bonus.

It's definitely not about SEO. I believe it's extremely important if you're building with the eventual goal of selling.

 

[dcristo]

That is not true at all. 99% of buyers couldn't care less if the site was accepted into DMOZ. They will just care about revenue and traffic stats.

 

[BiggieBiggie is verified member.]

my site is listed, but i never submitted it

seems like they pick and choose who to add...or not

 

[dcristo]

I would assume the volunteers review categories they are very familiar with and will add any authority sites in the niche.

 

[Shane]

That is not true at all. 99% of buyers couldn't care less if the site was accepted into DMOZ. They will just care about revenue and traffic stats.

I'm not saying a DMOZ listing will increase a websites value.. but I have noticed a strong correlation between being listed and selling for a premium.

 

[Shane]

my site is listed, but i never submitted it

seems like they pick and choose who to add...or not

Did you register the domain yourself or purchase the site from someone else? Must be a genuinely helpful site for someone else to submit you.

 

[dcristo]

The high revenue sites do tend to be listed in DMOZ because they are usually the top sites in their respective niches. Would they obtain the same premium price if they weren't listed in DMOZ? Absolutely. I am sure you are talking about a tiny sample size so there's nothing meaningful to be gained from it but imo the actual correlation is that quality sites are accepted into DMOZ NOT that DMOZ listed sites attract a higher sales price.

 

[Shane]

The high revenue sites do tend to be listed in DMOZ because they are usually the top sites in their respective niches. Would they obtain the same premium price if they weren't listed in DMOZ? Absolutely. I am sure you are talking about a tiny sample size so there's nothing meaningful to be gained from it but imo the actual correlation is that quality sites are accepted into DMOZ NOT that DMOZ listed sites attract a higher sales price.

They likely would. However, DMOZ is considered a trust indicator and it only took me 60-120 seconds to submit my site.

The results are well worth the time I invested.

 

[dcristo]

It's definitely not about SEO.

Seems like that is exactly what you are talking about. See my first comment above.

 

[Shane]

Seems like that is exactly what you are talking about. See my first comment above.

Again, still not talking about SEO but I don't really want to argue.

Thanks for everyones help. Hopefully they'll list me!

 

[dcristo]

Not arguing. If you are talking about "trust indicators" with regard to search engine algorithms you are talking about SEO. If you are talking about trust from a user standpoint most buyers wouldn't even know about DMOZ so it's a moot point.

 

[Shane]

Not arguing. If you are talking about "trust indicators" with regard to search engine algorithms you are talking about SEO. If you are talking about trust from a user standpoint most buyers wouldn't even know about DMOZ so it's a moot point.

It's not that simple though. Let's take pagerank for example. It directly impacts SERP placement and indirectly impacts perceived quality. At the end of the day a domain or website with established pagerank will fetch a higher premium than one without.

 

[amplify]

It's not that simple though. Let's take pagerank for example. It directly impacts SERP placement and indirectly impacts perceived quality. At the end of the day a domain or website with established pagerank will fetch a higher premium than one without.

I would have to disagree with PR being a key player. I have a couple sites PR 0 tailing PR5+ on the first page.

Content and how well it's delivered is king. I think the bounce rate has more of a play in it than PR these days.

Getting back on topic of getting listed for tricks... Have you read the SEO book of Kama Sutra for editors?

 

[JuniperPark]

DMOZ was pretty much discredited years ago when they were exposed for requiring bribes be paid to editors to get listed in many of the areas. Just look at many of their 'trusted' listings, full of spam and junk sites.

It's much like the Better Business Bureau, which will remove negative ratings for a fee, and won't give you a high rating unless you are a paying member.

 

[Shane]

I would have to disagree with PR being a key player. I have a couple sites PR 0 tailing PR5+ on the first page.

Content and how well it's delivered is king. I think the bounce rate has more of a play in it than PR these days.

Getting back on topic of getting listed for tricks... Have you read the SEO book of Kama Sutra for editors?

PR isn't a key player but it is an indicator of many things. If you're interested in discussing SEO please feel free to shoot me a message. It's what I do professionally and I don't mind giving away information.

I have not. What does an SEO book have to do with DMOZ?

 

[Shane]

DMOZ was pretty much discredited years ago when they were exposed for requiring bribes be paid to editors to get listed in many of the areas. Just look at many of their 'trusted' listings, full of spam and junk sites.

It's much like the Better Business Bureau, which will remove negative ratings for a fee, and won't give you a high rating unless you are a paying member.

Any newer or better alternatives?