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Rumor has it ISOC and Afilias is already the owner. hmmm... people can see through ICANN's games already.

Old net name to get new owner
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The Red Cross is adding its support to one ".org" bid

The hunt for a new owner of the ".org" net domain has begun.
The net suffix needs a new owner because the existing overseer will give up control over the domain by the end of this year.

In all, 11 organisations and groups have put in bids to run ".org".

".org" is the electronic home of many non-profit groups, and many of the bidding groups are planning to support this non-commercial ethic by changing the way the suffix is managed.

Community centre

This week, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann), the organisation that oversees the running of the net, revealed the list of bidders for the ".org" domain.

The domain is being released as part of a deal that its former owner, Verisign, struck with Icann.

By giving up control of the ".org" registry, Verisign got permission to keep control over the lucrative ".com" domain past the previously negotiated 2007 expiry date.

The deal was drawn up following US Government concern that Verisign was gathering too much control over net domains.

Community ethic

The bidders keen to run ".org" have each paid Icann $35,000 to consider their application.

Bids have come from a variety of groups, many of whom are already involved in the running of generic domains, such as dot.name or dot.coop as well as suffixes for individual nations.

Andrew Tsai, chief executive of the Global Name Registry, said change was needed because currently ".org" owners had no way of influencing what happened to their chosen domain and no central place to discuss community issues.

He said GNR would use 5% of the money made from ".org" domain fees to create a "community capital" that would dispense advice to new ".org" owners and act as a debating chamber for all owners.

"The vision is about inclusion, education and how this diverse community can shape the ".org" space together," he said.

The International Federation of the Red Cross is backing GNR's bid.

'Tried and tested'

Similar self-governance ideas were voiced by Malcolm Corbett, a spokesman for Poptel which is part of the Unity Registry bid for ".org".

He said if it was successful Unity would create a co-operative with ".org" domain owners as members to drive development of the suffix.

"It's a tried and tested structure for giving people influence over top level policies," he said.

Unity is planning to return 10% of the cash from domain fees to setting up the co-operative and creating resources for members.

British-based Organic Names is also preparing a bid for ".org" and said it planned to make the domain a focus for non-profit and ethical concerns.

Icann is due to appoint a new ".org" owner by the end of August 2002.
 
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Dot ORG is such a looser TLD.

Everytime I hear an advertisment for Dot "ORG", they have to spell the TLD out.

So when's the land rush start! :razz:

Cheers,

Dave Sullivan, WeTLD
 

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There are 2.4 million domain owners who think that .org works just fine...

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Originally posted by thewitt
There are 2.4 million domain owners who think that .org works just fine...

-t


Statistics show the number of registrations in the ".ORG" TLD to be ~2.4 million however, I would like you to show me the statistical data on the number of "working" websites under the ".ORG" TLD.

I could care less who manages the ".ORG" TLD because there is nothing even remotely appealing about this TLD along with ".BIZ", ".PRO" or even ".NAME".

My TLD's In order of preference:

.WEB
.COM
.US
.NET
.INFO
.BIZ
.ORG
.NAME

Cheers,

Dave Sullivan, WeTLD


P.S. See the first TLD?

This should have been activated by now however, ICANN chose to play the big boy game and create TLD's that make no common sense whatsoever.
 

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Can you show me the stats that show they aren't?

I've had an active .org domain since 1995, and I have book marks to dozens of them that I use regularly.

It's valid. It works, and it had many years of use before domain speculation even became popular.

Is it good for speculators? Not in my opinion.

Is it a valid TLD? Absolutely.

-t
 
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Originally posted by thewitt
Can you show me the stats that show they aren't?

No!

You were the person quoting a statistical value of 2.4mil.
I just asked you to back up this registration statistic with valid websites under ".ORG" that are "Working just fine".

Cheers,

Dave Sullivan, WeTLD
 

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Originally posted by thewitt Can you show me the stats that show they aren't? I've had an active .org domain since 1995, and I have book marks to dozens of them that I use regularly. It's valid. It works, and had many yrs of use before domain speculation even became popular. Is it good for speculators? Not in my opinion. Is it a valid TLD? Absolutely.
-t

Regarding dot-org. I think it's the 3rd best extension at this time, behind .com and .us. There are many good websites, both profit and non-profit who use .org. In fact, I see more TV Commercials for dot-orgs than for Com.

You said dot-org had relatively few active websites. I do not think that is correct information. My experience is different in that I believe org has a higher number of developed sites as a percentage, than dot-com does, though I have no statistics on it. But I understand dot-com only has between 5% and 10% developed web-sites, a very low number, with more than 90% not resolving.

Recently I have let some of my dot-net names drop in favor of keeping my dot-org names, assuming I have both extensions, which I frequently do. That way I save on my high renewal fees but keep my org's which are usually better than my net's. :)

Dot-org works particularly well if you are trying to convey an image of trust and non-commercial stature to a web-site. That helps the website gain credibility with the visitors and they are more likely to order products/services assuming its a commercial site.

P.S. Dot-Org also has an amazing hidden benefit few are aware of. Sorry, it's too valuable for me to say what it is. ;)
 

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Yep, .org is one of the best TLDs. I'd tend to agree with the previous post regarding the percentage of developed domains compared to .com - or to any other gTLD for that matter. It has an excellent image no doubt. I'd rank it #2 after .com. Not that there is anything 'wrong with .net but it suffers from an identity crisis.

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I also have a .org doman name. The subdivision that I live in has a homeowners association. I setup a website for them and choose .org becuase it best descriptes what it is. A non-profit organization (and least from a incorporation point of view).

.org's are just fine by me ;)

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Dot ORG is an excellent TLD. No, there will not be a "land rush", because the dot ORG is not really lucrative for making money like dot COM. But you will many, many "real" sites with .ORG with substantial content. It is the supreme TLD for a non-profit.
I'll bet you would be hard pressed to find even one site that ends with .BIZ that is used by a real business.


Originally posted by WeTLD
Dot ORG is such a looser TLD.

Everytime I hear an advertisment for Dot "ORG", they have to spell the TLD out.

So when's the land rush start! :razz:

Cheers,

Dave Sullivan, WeTLD
 
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:laugh: @goh

Actually, it was flirting.biz. .biz seems to be attracting the porno miners :dead:
 
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"P.S. Dot-Org also has an amazing hidden benefit few are aware of. Sorry, it's too valuable for me to say what it is. "

Why is that?
 

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That is "too valuable for me to say what it is". He had replied before you have asked.
 
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Value lies in the eyes of the beholder. The more people know about its value, the better. Unless RN owns the .org registry, that value is open to everyone. So I can't see any reason why RN should keep anything secret. I think we should look at it in this perspective.
 

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Originally posted by mole "P.S. Dot-Org also has an amazing hidden benefit few are aware of. Sorry, it's too valuable for me to say what it is. " Why is that?

I can't say since I have already said I won't reveal it and can't go back on my word.
 
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