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To all anti-war protestors
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Let me ask you this:
If tomorrow Israel will remove ALL settlements, ALL military bases, ALL checkpoints in the territories captured during the war of 1967... and will withdraw completely to the pre-1967 cease-fire lines -- WILL TERRORISM STOP???
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Its the same question as how many Iraqi's do they get rid of
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You really think that Hamas ( who openly calls for the destruction of Israel and murder of jews as well as commits the crimes), Islamic Jihad ( who openly calls for the destruction of Israel and murder of jews as well as commits the crimes), Hezbollah ( who openly calls for the destruction of Israel and murder of jews as well as commits the crimes), the various Fatah factions will stop in any situation? The palestinian charter ( which is what they live by ) calls for the destruction of Israel...
The books and maps the palestinians teach their kids with doesn't even show Israel as being there on anything.
You really think the friday night sermons calling for the erasure of israel, jews and america will stop?
5 times the arabs ( btw...prior to 1964 there was no palestinian authority, Arafat established them then ) were offered a state....5 times they turned it down and started wars instead. Prior to 2 years ago when Arafart started this Infantostada there was no occupation or road blocks...the palestinians had autonomous rule over 95% of their territories.
The terrorism forced the Israelis to have to check the "peaceful" people for suicide bombs and small arms....as terrorists were walking into pizza parlors and murdering women and children. You think any other country would have handled it differently? Well ya France probably would..
Nothing the Israelis could do would satisfiy what the arabs want...they want eradicafication of the jews from the area...
All the palestinians need to is stop the terrorism...hell at least make an attempt at it. But to think that the Israelis should negotiate and give in under fire is ridiculous, no country would do that....not even france.
What the palestinian are doing is not different that what they did in Jordan and lebabnon and eygpt and elsewhere with there violent uprisings to take power..and that is why they were expelled from those countries or are treated as second class citizens there...can't live certain places can't have certain jobs. ... Look up which country took in the palestinians that no other country would take...Israel.
btw....Irael has a 20% Israeli arab population with all the same rights as everyone and they even get a perk..they are not required to do mandatory time in the army.
Palestinians need to get rid of there terrorist government and put in place moderate leaders that care more about their people than their bank accounts and ego. Unfortunatly that won't happen til Arafart is gone and then some.
So people can go on blaming Israel for the palestinian peoples plight....but the fact will still remain that their actions and leaders put them where they are today.
I am not going to go on....this is not the place for this. There are plenty of other places to go to discuss this matter. I think I prefer this place as a faceless, non-partisan, benign place to come talk about domains.
Peace.....Really
The books and maps the palestinians teach their kids with doesn't even show Israel as being there on anything.
You really think the friday night sermons calling for the erasure of israel, jews and america will stop?
5 times the arabs ( btw...prior to 1964 there was no palestinian authority, Arafat established them then ) were offered a state....5 times they turned it down and started wars instead. Prior to 2 years ago when Arafart started this Infantostada there was no occupation or road blocks...the palestinians had autonomous rule over 95% of their territories.
The terrorism forced the Israelis to have to check the "peaceful" people for suicide bombs and small arms....as terrorists were walking into pizza parlors and murdering women and children. You think any other country would have handled it differently? Well ya France probably would..
Nothing the Israelis could do would satisfiy what the arabs want...they want eradicafication of the jews from the area...
All the palestinians need to is stop the terrorism...hell at least make an attempt at it. But to think that the Israelis should negotiate and give in under fire is ridiculous, no country would do that....not even france.
What the palestinian are doing is not different that what they did in Jordan and lebabnon and eygpt and elsewhere with there violent uprisings to take power..and that is why they were expelled from those countries or are treated as second class citizens there...can't live certain places can't have certain jobs. ... Look up which country took in the palestinians that no other country would take...Israel.
btw....Irael has a 20% Israeli arab population with all the same rights as everyone and they even get a perk..they are not required to do mandatory time in the army.
Palestinians need to get rid of there terrorist government and put in place moderate leaders that care more about their people than their bank accounts and ego. Unfortunatly that won't happen til Arafart is gone and then some.
So people can go on blaming Israel for the palestinian peoples plight....but the fact will still remain that their actions and leaders put them where they are today.
I am not going to go on....this is not the place for this. There are plenty of other places to go to discuss this matter. I think I prefer this place as a faceless, non-partisan, benign place to come talk about domains.
Peace.....Really
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I am going to try to refrain from making anymore politically related posts...this is not the forum for it....we all have our opinions that we feel strongly and emotionally about.
If you want to continue a conversation please feel free to email me.
I have no problem with anyone here and I really don't want to start now. Theres nothing to be gained...we are a small community...and up til recently a semi-happy one.
I make no apologies for my posts...they are my views...you are entitled to yours as well. I'll leave it at that.
Peace...Really
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If you want to continue a conversation please feel free to email me.
I have no problem with anyone here and I really don't want to start now. Theres nothing to be gained...we are a small community...and up til recently a semi-happy one.
I make no apologies for my posts...they are my views...you are entitled to yours as well. I'll leave it at that.
Peace...Really
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One Japanese university student went to high school of Iraq and obtained the message of the handwriting from them.
As for this a kind differs from the news of the medias.
This is not the conversation that was made. It is the true voice.
1.
Hello
My name is Haider H. Al-HAssani. I am 17 years old. I would like to tell you
that I'm very sad and very startled because I don't know what my life will be,
I don't know will I live? or not? and what will the American trhow on us?
I'm sure very sure that you'll understand me because you also suffered the
problems of wars.I'm afraid that they will do to us like they did to you in
Hiroshima or Nagasaki. All the world must stand against USA not just the people
but also the governments to prevent the war.
I hope that we all live in peace and I hope to visit your country because I
love it so much and I found that you are the most intelligent people so I'd
like to study in your country.
My hobbies are swimming and chatting with other people by e-mail!
2.
Peace message
My name is Mohanad Ali. I am 17 years old. This situation America is wrong to
war to Iraq because they have not problem that USA stop to destroy the world
and make them feel sad and misereable to worlds life that they live in my
country, Iraq is very good people and the not like any war because they were
very kind people and very simple people. they dream to live under peace without
war. I hope to be a doctor to solve my country, Iraq and solve children who has
pain. my hobby is to live happy without war, without destruction. I call people
in the world to stand and say to Bush not war yes PEACE.
3.
Hello, my neme is Mustafa Hassan. I'm seventeen years old. I'm very happy
because I can express my feeling to the world in this message. I feel very sad
because USA and another countries tend to attack Iraq and I hope it never
happen. I think the soulution of this problem is that ecery one outside the
Iraq help us and declare their feeling about the war about the terror about
every thing is bad. The people in Iraq lives in peace and don't like war. They
want live in peace. They dream and so am I in peace but I love travelling to
many countries and see the world. My hobby is playing football. that's about my
hobby. in the end. I'd like to say to all over the world's people that we're
love peace and want live in peace.
4.
Hello, my name is Abbas Kubb, and my Nick name is Abbas, I'm 17years ole. I
feel gery sad and this attack very wrong way. the situation of this problem is
people of the world must standing the USA wars. I think my country is very
strong agianst the enemy. my dream we live in peace fully and I will marry who
I love and become doctor in the future. my hobby is the swimming and fighting
Kyoku Shinkai. I say to the world "No war for Oil!"
5.
My name is Ali. I am 17 years old, I'm in the scientific stage. My nick name
(Fortune) all my friend called me (Fortune)so... you want me to write to all
over the world about our case is so important for all of the human being! As I
see the situation is that the American want to attack the Iraqi people for two
reasons, first one they want to protect the Zionist or cause the Iraqi
government makes them scared in 1991, the second reason is (the oil) which is
the most important thing for this time, and about the solution I can't find a
solution for our case the Arab country supplied the American and we should
first, find a solution with the Arab country them we will think of the
American's Attack which is mean so much for us and we want to say to all of the
world, we don't have the power but we have the power of our hearts and I think
it's enough and thank you.
As for this a kind differs from the news of the medias.
This is not the conversation that was made. It is the true voice.
1.
Hello
My name is Haider H. Al-HAssani. I am 17 years old. I would like to tell you
that I'm very sad and very startled because I don't know what my life will be,
I don't know will I live? or not? and what will the American trhow on us?
I'm sure very sure that you'll understand me because you also suffered the
problems of wars.I'm afraid that they will do to us like they did to you in
Hiroshima or Nagasaki. All the world must stand against USA not just the people
but also the governments to prevent the war.
I hope that we all live in peace and I hope to visit your country because I
love it so much and I found that you are the most intelligent people so I'd
like to study in your country.
My hobbies are swimming and chatting with other people by e-mail!
2.
Peace message
My name is Mohanad Ali. I am 17 years old. This situation America is wrong to
war to Iraq because they have not problem that USA stop to destroy the world
and make them feel sad and misereable to worlds life that they live in my
country, Iraq is very good people and the not like any war because they were
very kind people and very simple people. they dream to live under peace without
war. I hope to be a doctor to solve my country, Iraq and solve children who has
pain. my hobby is to live happy without war, without destruction. I call people
in the world to stand and say to Bush not war yes PEACE.
3.
Hello, my neme is Mustafa Hassan. I'm seventeen years old. I'm very happy
because I can express my feeling to the world in this message. I feel very sad
because USA and another countries tend to attack Iraq and I hope it never
happen. I think the soulution of this problem is that ecery one outside the
Iraq help us and declare their feeling about the war about the terror about
every thing is bad. The people in Iraq lives in peace and don't like war. They
want live in peace. They dream and so am I in peace but I love travelling to
many countries and see the world. My hobby is playing football. that's about my
hobby. in the end. I'd like to say to all over the world's people that we're
love peace and want live in peace.
4.
Hello, my name is Abbas Kubb, and my Nick name is Abbas, I'm 17years ole. I
feel gery sad and this attack very wrong way. the situation of this problem is
people of the world must standing the USA wars. I think my country is very
strong agianst the enemy. my dream we live in peace fully and I will marry who
I love and become doctor in the future. my hobby is the swimming and fighting
Kyoku Shinkai. I say to the world "No war for Oil!"
5.
My name is Ali. I am 17 years old, I'm in the scientific stage. My nick name
(Fortune) all my friend called me (Fortune)so... you want me to write to all
over the world about our case is so important for all of the human being! As I
see the situation is that the American want to attack the Iraqi people for two
reasons, first one they want to protect the Zionist or cause the Iraqi
government makes them scared in 1991, the second reason is (the oil) which is
the most important thing for this time, and about the solution I can't find a
solution for our case the Arab country supplied the American and we should
first, find a solution with the Arab country them we will think of the
American's Attack which is mean so much for us and we want to say to all of the
world, we don't have the power but we have the power of our hearts and I think
it's enough and thank you.
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Soldier Says He's Conscientious Objector Tue Apr 1, 3:49 PM ET By KIM CURTIS, Associated Press Writer
SAN JOSE, Calif. - With his sister carrying his duffel bag and his mother holding his hand, a 20-year-old Marine reservist surrendered to the military Tuesday and declared himself a conscientious objector. Wearing camouflage fatigues, Lance Cpl. Stephen Funk turned himself in at the locked gates of the Marine Corps reserve center where he was assigned, weeks after refusing to report when called up to active duty.
"Ultimately, it's my fault for joining in the first place," said Funk ... Funk said he began doubting his fitness for military service during basic training last spring when he felt uncomfortable singing cadence calls that described violence and screaming "Kill, kill, kill." ...
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