For Sale Why the .CA will always struggle

[TheLegendaryJP]

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[theinvestor]

I can't say i am surprised... i have had a handful of reseller sales in .ca's... i don't bother selling now as there is no market for them. It sucks in your case because now you have to either decide whether to take a huge loss or hold them.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

I can't say i am surprised... i have had a handful of reseller sales in .ca's... i don't bother selling now as there is no market for them. It sucks in your case because now you have to either decide whether to take a huge loss or hold them.

Exactly, I just grabbed a calculator and the EXACT amount I am losing is $7,655. All the LN were $1XXX+.

 

[theinvestor]

Seems to be the nature of these .ca's ...

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

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[theinvestor]

I can only suggest to hold them or sell them individually.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

I can only suggest to hold them or sell them individually.

Yes, my mistake. I think too big sometimes. Would have been better to part out so to speak.

 

[DropWizard.com]

Why do you think the move to privacy hurt .ca DropWizard ?

Both domainers and end users could easily find contact info before privacy. Now only domainers know how to do it if the contact info is private. Seeing as how CIRA made privacy the default options that covers hundreds of thousands of domains. Any end user would get frustrated real fast trying to figure it out.

Put a door in the way of any transaction and sales will fall off.

Add a recession and the sales fall off the cliff!

just take the privacy off... you have an option

Of course and we do. But I'm just one company. As I mentioned above the move (in my mind) affects all end users looking.

Sorry I don't want to hijack JP's lament:lol: Perhaps this should be a separate thread.

 

[hugegrowth]

Dont get me wrong, I have made plenty in dot ca, plenty but the one bloody time I actually need a sale...lol

believe me, if I had some free cash sitting around I would buy them. So would a lot of others here I think.

 

[liberator]

believe me, if I had some free cash sitting around I would buy them. So would a lot of others here I think.

k:agreed

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

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[Irish31]

Interesting trip down memory land here. I wonder, do people still feel the same way three years after the fact?

 

[msn]

Interesting trip down memory land here. I wonder, do people still feel the same way three years after the fact?

It is not so easy to say since someone decided to edit out all of his comments, but welcome to our echo chamber.

People complain about 'reseller prices' which do not really exist; we need to have a functioning reseller market in order to have reseller prices as compared to just plain reduced prices.

 

[hugegrowth]

I've noticed less .ca firesales since then. Still think you can't force a market, let people sell at their own prices and see how it goes. Just leave it to supply and demand.

 

[katherine]

Domainers are not to blame for the weak .ca market.

Domainers are selling on the reseller market at reseller prices when there are no end users in sight.
Why hold for years when they won't come ?

 

[DomainsInc]

its funny to me...my biggest sale was a .ca i hand registered despite only owning a handful of them. you never know i guess.

 

[grcorp]

The market just hasn't had a chance to mature. It took time for .com, and I'm of the opinion that .ca will be no different.

The Internet as we know it started in 1993. Dot ca had its landrush in 2000. Therefore, the market is 12 years old. I think we can all agree that the .com market wasn't matured the way it is now back when it was 12 years old in 2005. So, I think it's simply a matter of time.

.com will always be king. So don't hold your breath and think that "some day", your .ca will be worth what the same .com is worth (perhaps an exception for Canadian geos).

Think of it as a sub-brand; like Tudor to Rolex, or ESQ to Movado.

That's my vision for .ca. I just don't think it's fully set in among Canadians, and that will just take time.

 

[katherine]

So, I think it's simply a matter of time.

Domainers tend to say that often. Just a waiting game. The reality is they cannot afford to hold for years, even decades without making a profit.

Back in 2000 I took part in the .ca landrush. Yes, that was twelve years ago.
Today I'm almost out and moved on to greater pastures. If it works for you it's all fine.
I'm not going to wait any longer to make laudable profits.

Back in 2005 I also claimed a share in .us - fast forward 2012 it's not taking off.
I do not claim an ability to predict the future, anything can happen really, but you need to be able to adjust your strategy when you see you are crashing into a wall. Blinders do not help.

We could argue about the reasons why the two TLDs are not performing better. Both TLDs were indeed released somewhat late to the public (2000 and 2002 respectively).
Now it's unimportant because there is little we can do about it.

.ca is great if you are a developer. But there are quite a few ccTLDs that are doing better marketwise.

 

[TheLegendaryJP]

@msn, I edited a few posts at the request of another member, it was business related. As for not seeing reseller prices, look around and you know what resellers wont pay LOL

As for my thoughts today...the market is still profitable and grand for a handful, no more. And before you say I sold such .ca and made thousands...until you do that monthly and have done so for years, no need to mention it.

Premium names still lack premium confidence by resellers to invest in and that leaves big buys coming from end users, which are few and far between.

Unless I absolutely felt like I was stealing a one word .ca I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole unless I had development in mind or the willingness to accept resellers will not pay more and the end user may never come. jmo

As long as I can invest $XXXX-$XXX,XXX in dot com's and see 6 figures a year in profit, why play around with a .ca?

There is one member here who owns a large premium .ca portfolio who from time to time lists them or sale and asks low 5 figs, how is that working out for him..err them.

I am not hating on .ca, there is no emotion in it, for 3 years they made me a fair amount of money and I flipped dozens of premium names but feel like that wave is over, was harder and the state of the economy as a whole has dragged it and everything else down too. No emotion, I saw a wave, road it, got off.

A lot of people could save themselves a lot of money if they didnt allow emotion to come into play and took the hard advice. Not saying a guy cant make a buck or two with a .ca here and there but it is NOT a living, that priviledge is left for a handful.

 

[hugegrowth]

I would agree it would be very hard for most to make a living in .ca, but there is still money to be made. I doubt the market will go down as long as domains stay relevant. Most of us probably invest in more extensions than just .ca. For me, it's about half.