closed Why .com.cn sucks !

[beatz]

Ok,

first i thought great another extension i can blow my not-so-hard-earned cash on but i'm glad i didnt reg any of those.

Most people that speak in favour of com.cn seem to have either one of these 2 opinions:

A)

"The chinese market is the worlds largest one besides the US - imagine all the zillions of people you could market to through a com.cn !" That kind of stuff.

Excuse me, but don't most chinese people rather speak chinese than english?! So unless you want to make a site using chinese letters, forget it.
There must be a reason why people even seldom reg english terms with a .de extension - i havent seen a global .de-goldrush yet, not even for "perfect for SEO" reasons.Which takes me to..

B)

".com.cn is perfect for searchengine optimisation ! Just look at all the unregged yummy keyword names ! Mmmh, i think imma get me some of these juicy ones !"
That kind of stuff.

Well, why spending $9/$19/29 ( please choose your fav registrar )
for a 3d level domain when you can get a

- .ws for like $15
- free 3d level name like xyz.cjb.net ( please choose your fav free "domain" provider ) on any rotten street corner ?!

At least the .ws are kind of easy to remember and at least the free ones are...free, you guessed it - but hey, maybe it feels just more sexy to spend $29 for something that is hard to remember AND expensive at the same time ?! Wow 2 things in one...

What do i know, but i have a suspicion that my beginner-regs ala "mybodyismy.biz" kinda have healed me from regging crapola like com.cn

Now go on regging.

 

[domainAddict]

Im not so sure you are right. At first I tthaught same as you, but then again: THERE ARE SO MANY CHINESE PEOPLE! I think they are already used to use english on web, so if you pick a good 1 word .com.cn, I think you might make it. Just dont reg crap like thebestxysomethingfromme.com.cn. I think typeins are one and only way..

 

[domainAddict]

Notethat nobody will probally ever type in cars.ws, while cars.com.cn has billions of prospective visitors, even though its not in chinese (cos they are used to it, that web is 90% in english anyway). Just my oppinion..

 

[beatz]

LOL
Just the exact same thing i have mentioned above.
Listen, i live in Germany and it's considered the world's 3d biggest consumer market in the world - still 99,9% of germans aren't able to speak better english than i speak suaheli - if thats how it's spelled.

Btw - the chinese people that do indeed speak english and are familiar with the internet, what do you think they're going to type in ? I bet it's gonna be a .com - without the .cn

 

[Bob]

Originally posted by domainAddict
Notethat nobody will probally ever type in cars.ws, while cars.com.cn has billions of prospective visitors,

How do you arrive at billions of visitors for cars.com.cn?

99.999999999999999999% of the people will forget the .cn after the .com.

I would never reg any .com.cn.

-Bob

 

[domainAddict]

where I live, im sure 80% of people who surf the web speak english.. I think that even for germany you are exagrerating..

 

[domainAddict]

Originally posted by Bob


How do you arrive at billions of visitors for cars.com.cn?

99.999999999999999999% of the people will forget the .cn after the .com.

I would never reg any .com.cn.

-Bob

Chinese people wont..

Anyway, do what you want. Im not saying im right, its just my expectation.. I have regged only one till now: cigarettes.com.cn. They are being used all over the world, and will be used until we all die So if com.cn turns out to be a dud, Ill lose those $25. But if it turns out to be a winner, then i also have a winner. DONT YOU CRY OVER 50 BUCKS, CMON..

 

[beatz]

Just make a check and look up all the great generic english terms that are regged elswhere but .de - there is a reason for that.
Bottom line is - we might reg a GERMAN term with a .com or .net - but why an ENGLISH term with a .de ?!

 

[GiantDomains]

In China, they use .com, and .cn, NOT .com.cn, .net.cn, .org.cn. Those are like .biz to us.

 

[domainAddict]

if I would be looking for cigarettes, i would check .biz as well usually you never find what you are looking for at .com, cos they are all owned by cybersquatters..

 

[domainAddict]

Originally posted by beatz
Just make a check and look up all the great generic english terms that are regged elswhere but .de - there is a reason for that.
Bottom line is - we might reg a GERMAN term with a .com or .net - but why an ENGLISH term with a .de ?!

I agree english term +.de is bad choice. But i must say that english term + com.cn makes more sence to me..


Also, for long time english was the only supported character set for domain names, when chinese characters are pretty new to everyone.

Not to mention that German market isnt even as near as big as chinese..

 

[TrafficMonsterRRR]

Perhaps some people who registered .com.cn names did so in pure speculation.

Maybe in a few years these names will be worth many times more IN THE CHINESE MARKET, ie have increased resale value.

If we follow the speculative retionale, we don't need to be concerned about which language to develop them in and/or the current state of type-ins.

NZmp3.com.nz gets many many more type-ins than NZmp3.com (I know this for sure). This as an example of a "developed" local market for a 2nd level extension.

You are all right but let's not forget the reason some are here ie to speculate.

 

[beatz]

"makes more sence to me.."
Exactly - but not to chinese people unfortunately.

"when chinese characters are pretty new to everyone."
LOL - it might be news for you, but chinese is a zillion years old so to most chinese people my guess is its not SO new.
Also you mix up characters for domains and characters for typing .

 

[Beachie]

Actually, .com.cn, .net.cn and .org.cn are already widely used by chinese sites.

.com.au is reasonably popular here in Australia, and we only have a population of 18 million..

It is a gamble, but perhaps worth it if you choose wisely..

I just spent $100 on 5 .cn's. If it's a failure I haven't lost much, but if it's a success...........

 

[izopod]

Originally posted by beatz

"when chinese characters are pretty new to everyone."
LOL - it might be news for you, but chinese is a zillion years old so to most chinese people my guess is its not SO new.
Also you mix up characters for domains and characters for typing .

This brings to mind the Real Names fiasco. Up until this past year, a lot of Chinese were using "Real Name" technology to type Asian characters directly in to the browser address window. They liked having the ability to logically surf the web using their own language. Many Chinese people were upset with Microsoft when they pulled the plug on Real Names. What this points out is the Chinese PREFER using their own natural characters as opposed the the Roman centric characters (duh). Most of the chinese that use dot com or .cn are fluent in english. This is a very small #, compared to the rest of the chinese population. Keep this in mind.

If you want "domain gold" don't buy .cn or .com.cn. Come up with an equitable solution for the asian populations to logically surf the web using their own natural language. Their language is is a big part of their culture. Many in the west don't understand this, and it's no wonder these ".com.cn" type ventures fail.


izopod

 

[domainAddict]

Originally posted by beatz
"makes more sence to me.."
Exactly - but not to chinese people unfortunately.

"when chinese characters are pretty new to everyone."
LOL - it might be news for you, but chinese is a zillion years old so to most chinese people my guess is its not SO new.
Also you mix up characters for domains and characters for typing .

I AM TALKING ABOUT CHARACTERS FOR DOMAINS. NO MIXUP, EXCEPT ONE IN YOUR HEAD As I recall, chinese character domains werent available to register for quite some time
Anyway, you might be right that they are worthless, but just in case they arent, i have spent $25. Not much to loose, but lots to gain..

 

[star]

Agree with doberry.
Most popular chinese site are using .com as far as know.

 

[chinewang]

If you have .com.cn,you can register .cn now.
.cn is the best,.cn=.com+.net

 

[buddy]

Would be interested to hear some comments on this from someone located in China. Regardless, when you are saying that it is market of 1 billion people, it is totally misleading. How many of those acutally have a computer or access to one? And those that do have a computer, how many of those have access to the Internet? Of course, it is a market for the future. But we are talking a lot of changes that involves culture, infrastructure, economy etc. It will take time. So don't expect anything to happen for many years to come.

Just my opinion

 

[DryHeat]

Originally posted by chinewang
If you have .com.cn,you can register .cn now.

Is that true? This is the first time I read this....