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For Sale Are Enom and Network Solutions breaking the rules??

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if i remember correctly, registrars are not supposed to own names for their own account, or profit from their clients names.

I believe the public auction names at enom ( lets use moneyatm.com as an example) and the new snapnames process (lets use seniorbooks.net as an example) illustrate what i am talking about, check the whois. Even though i just bought, or in the case of enom am bidding, on these names the whois still dates back to 2003 and 1999 respectfully.

as for moneyatm.com, who owns the name right now, is enom selling on behalf of clients, and if so what are the terms so others can sell their names.
if they are selling from a client, i want a release from that client saying enom had permission to sell that name.

in the case of network solutions / SNAPnames i recently bought a snap on seniorbooks.net, expiration date august 15, 2004, the name never went to redemption and i got it with the snap and kept the original registration date As a new buyer i do not like this arrangement, i like the "cleansing" process of a drop and a new registration releasing me from any involvement of the prior owner.

my questions:

does snapnames indemnify me from the prior owner? does network solutions? does enom?

Now i know i have included enom ( hello cambler) with network solutions because i want to point out that registrar behavior that results from owning names isnt a "reasonableness" issue, if you do it a little bit, you do it. i dont beleive registrars can manage themselves because the greed issue clouds any judgements that might protect the internet user.

Respectfully submitted to illuminate the current rapidly changing trends.

by the way i would expect a flood of emails updating registration agreements in the next 3- 60 days.........

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I think it's going to take a while to sort through all these issues.

It's funny how WLS would have simplied things (in some respsects) yet now we are stuck in a system where money is the driving force in the decisions. The "cleasing" process could be done on a registry level. That would probably help some of us sleep better at night especially if the prior owners comes back and says the domain shows the original creation date. He/she might have forgotten about it and call you up angry accusing you of stealing it (not even knowing it had expired). Citing the date and the prior use of the "mark" (if one was used) he/she could theoretically take the name back.
 
clemzonguy said:
now we are stuck in a system where money is the driving force in the decisions.

It has been that way for a thousand years. And, it will be that way
long after I am gone.
 
sitehq said:
does snapnames indemnify me from the prior owner? does network solutions?

I would think that NetSol's terms of service indemnify you. I don't think any names are going to auction unless they are 36 days after expire date (plenty of time for registrant to renew). Also, I don't believe the redemption period was ever guaranteed anyway.

If someone was to attempt legal action to get their name back, what would their argument be? That they failed to pay their domain fee and the name should be given back to them!? You snooze, you lose.
 
Domain said:
they failed to pay their domain fee and the name should be given back to them!? You snooze, you lose.

I hope you are right.
 
clemzonguy said:
I hope you are right.

If not, some legal expense could occur.....and don't expect NETSOL to do anything. They're not in it with your best intentions in mind.
 
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