Confirmed: eNom is ignoring new ICANN transfer rule

[JuniperPark]

I just gave it a test. I request a transfer of one of my UNLOCKED .com domain names from one of the eNom drop catcher companies. I ignored the transfer approval email. After a week, the transfer was rejected because it was not confirmed.

So there ya have it. Transfers aren't going through without confirmation.

 

[Theo]

Hmm the drop catching co's of Enom are a different story. You still need to a) unlock the domain b) request a transfer c) confirm it. If all else fails email [email protected]

 

[BiggieBiggie is verified member.]

rad...i think you mis-read the post!

 

[Theo]

Well in essence he is right; Enom does not autoacknowledge, the confirmation step is still needed.

 

[Dave Zan]

I take it you asked them about this, Juniper?

 

[mole]

Well in essence he is right; Enom does not autoacknowledge, the confirmation step is still needed.

Good for you, eNom.

 

[Anthony Ng]

I just gave it a test. I request a transfer of one of my UNLOCKED .com domain names from one of the eNom drop catcher companies. I ignored the transfer approval email. After a week, the transfer was rejected because it was not confirmed.

So there ya have it. Transfers aren't going through without confirmation.

If you meant you did not confirm the transfer from the winning registrar (whichever it is), then you might have misread ICANN's new transfer rule. And eNom (as the losing registrar) NEVER asks for any acknowledgement or confirmation. Am I missing something?

 

[eSology]

I have transferred at least 50 domains since the new rule and have yet to run into a problem. And yes you still need to approve the email but instead the email is coming from the gaining registrar vice the losing registrar.

 

[Deleted member 2020]

I agree with the general consensus above.

It is still necessary to give explicit approval of the transfer to the *winning* registrar. (but no explicit approval will now be requested from the losing registrar).

If this transfer approval request is ignored, then the transfer should definitely fail.

Otherwise anyone could request transfer of someone else's domain, and it would/could be transferred to them.

There is no evidence that has been provided which shows that enom are ignoring the ICANN transfer rules.

I think some confusion may have arisen due to earlier threads that assumed that transfers would take place without the owner's (admin e-mail's) permission.

 

[JuniperPark]

I did not discuss this with eNom; in fact I'm not sure it's a 'bad' thing anyway.

The person is right... I did not confirm the winning registrar's email, so perhaps it just never attempted the transfer. Hmmmm.... perhaps this wasn't a great way to test it after all.

 

[Deleted member 2020]

It's good to test/experiment/post etc.

Even if things don't work out quite how we expected, I find it often helps to clarify things anyway. Maybe for us and for others.

 

[Dave Zan]

By the way, when you made the "transfer test", were you charged or was it
deferred pending approval?

If the former, you might want to contact them and get your money back. :-D

 

[Deleted member 2020]

Assuming it was a reseller account, enom provisionally deduct the amount from the available balance of the reseller account, and if the transfer fails, automatically replace it. Which is quite nice.

 

[Anthony Ng]

Many people misunderstand ICANN's "new" transfer policy. I don't know if it has anything to do with GoDaddy's high-profile marketing stunt a while back (by asking their clients to lock their domains).

 

[ForumDomains]

I have transferred from Register to Aplus and that transfer was successful without any confirmation to Register. So, GoDaddy are right in asking customers to lock their domains. Registrars that do not offer locking for free are in a very unfavorable situation and they have to do a lot of tricks to protect their customers.

 

[Anthony Ng]

No, don't get me wrong: locking your domain is correct (and we should all do; please do if you haven't); however, GoDaddy's letter to their customers made it look like ICANN was implementing something bad, which is totally false. That transfer policy has been thorough discussed and consulted, and is doing more good to registrants (domain owners) if anything. I'd actually recommend doing some essential reading at:

http://www.icann.org/transfers/

 

[Deleted member 2020]

This is just it. There is no longer an obstacle in that the losing registrar can now no longer reject the transfer.

As long as there is a valid authorisation for the *winning* registrar from the authorised person (admin e-mail), that is all that is needed.

In your case, the losing registrar was Register, so they don't require authorisation. They can notify the owner of the transfer if they want (as enom do), so that if it is somehow a fraudulent transfer, the owner has a chance to stop it.

Godaddy.com were therefore probably misleading if they said it was so important to lock domains due to the changes.