Offered $200,000 for adult names by dnpowerful..

[ebess]

Yeah, there are tons of popup stopping programs out there -- I'm surprised you guys aren't all using 'em already!

I use PopNot and it's pretty awesome. How else would I be able to test my sites

BTW, if you use Opera for your browser, you can set the options to not allow popup windows. I've found that Opera is faster than Internet Explorer, but has some trouble with page display every now and then..

 

[DomeBase]

Originally posted by President Gringo


Thanks . I visted one of his once and know what u mean about pop ups....good thing i have popupstopper

Hey! Isn't he one of the moderators here? :laugh: oh wait... must be his cousin.

 

[NamePopper.com]

Dome--that's my second cousin twice removed.

Well ebess....so is the deal definitely off? Are you still considering the offer?

200K upfront is a lot of money. You know what they say. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

 

[President Gringo]

was the offer for all the names or a handful of them?

 

[ebess]

the offer was for ALL of them

And at this point I just can't see selling all of them for 200K

As I told DnP, I'd be much more inclined to sell a handful of them

 

[ReignDomain]

Originally posted by gregr
No wonder I don't do well with my adult names. I don't have the imagination ebess has.

Right, those names are beyond imagination.

 

[DomainNameFactory]

Right, those names are beyond imagination.

?? Huh ??

What does that mean?

 

[President Gringo]

i think 200k is too low for all of them. Theres over 160 names there, thats like $1250 a name which is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too low for some of those names.

 

[DomainNameFactory]

Well...it's a bulk purchase so you won't get to retail value for all of them. If they make everything porn go to XXX then what??

I would have taken the cash and bought some depressed stock.

IMHO

 

[DnPowerful]

Originally posted by President Gringo
i think 200k is too low for all of them. Theres over 160 names there, thats like $1250 a name which is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too low for some of those names.

All respect Gringo, that's hardly the metric one would use to value a list. Many of these names are junk and will only earn back their registration fee and a latte or two. Others are worth 10-20 times the average, so valuation by average is rough, to say the least.

My experience is to buy based on type-ins and revenue only, and buy as a pool, and cut and keep where need be. This way, I am protected post-sale if numbers are vastly out-of-whack. There's really no wriggle room if someone promises 3000 uniques on a specific block and they're not even close.

I can guarantee you that ebess' individual pricing will be *extravagantly* higher than what she would accept for the whole list averaged out.

Ultimately it comes down to type-ins and number of years revenue you're paying for, no matter what's in the grab bag. There are variations within that theme, but overall, that's my method.

 

[DomainNameFactory]

I have to agree with DNP...

Cisco was under $8.50 the other day...I bought a ton and sold today at $1 a share profit...your profit on a 200K block would have been $23,500+ profit in 1 day... OUCH!!

 

[strongvis]

you bought at $8 and sold for $1 and made money???
hmmmm I guess I need an economics lesson

 

[President Gringo]

i think dumping 200k of shares in a single company in one go would push the price down......or do these size transactions take place all the time?

DNP, y not just pick out the best, and make an offer on that.....if i was ebiss i would be more tempted to do that. The 13 she has listed on the top seem like top domains.

 

[DomainNameFactory]

no sold at $9.50+ .. . $1 per share profit.

The more demand, the higher the ask (usually)
Millions of Cisco shares are traded everyday

 

[President Gringo]

Originally posted by strongvis
you bought at $8 and sold for $1 and made money???
hmmmm I guess I need an economics lesson

no, just an english one :razz:

 

[DnPowerful]

Originally posted by President Gringo
i think dumping 200k of shares in a single company in one go would push the price down......or do these size transactions take place all the time?

DNP, y not just pick out the best, and make an offer on that.....if i was ebiss i would be more tempted to do that. The 13 she has listed on the top seem like top domains.

To say anymore would tip my hand, but suffice it to say that I like the comfort of certain certainties mixed in with uncertainties that suit my own needs.

 

[DomainNameFactory]

To say anymore would tip my hand, but suffice it to say that I like the comfort of certain certainties mixed in with uncertainties that suit my own needs.

yea...what he said!

 

[DnPowerful]

I personally think the adult industry is on its way into trouble, and ghetto-ization and restrictions of adult sites is almost certainly on the horizon.

Obviously I wouldn't be buying adult names if I felt entirely pessimistic, but I have scaled back my offering prices, and industry-wide, pricing is a lot more cautious on the sell side.

While the adult industry will always survive, adult .com's as pure assets and earning machines, may not survive...

For some insights into why things might change, have a peek at this terrific PBS documentary that you can watch in Quicktime:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/porn/view/

 

[ReignDomain]

Originally posted by DnPowerful
I personally think the adult industry is on its way into trouble, and ghetto-ization and restrictions of adult sites is almost certainly on the horizon.

Sooner or later the adult industry will become a victim of political volleyball. Some moron senator will start a "moral crusade" on behalf of "our children". The same senator, i suspect, who voted against booting "blowjob president" from office.

Political correctness is not going away. Hey, New York Mayor is about to ban smoking in all restaurants and even on the street...

 

[DnPowerful]

Originally posted by ReignDomain


Sooner or later the adult industry will become a victim of political volleyball. Some moron senator will start a "moral crusade" on behalf of "our children". The same senator, i suspect, who voted against booting "blowjob president" from office.

Political correctness is not going away. Hey, New York Mayor is about to ban smoking in all restaurants and even on the street...

I don't think it has anything to do with moral crusades or PC-ism. It has to do with the fact that young children are bombarded with explicit porn email and porn website traps all day long, despite the middling success of blocking software. Whatever your feelings about porn, this is just plain wrong, and I personally think pornographers *should* be spanked for it.

The concept that a 10 year old child should open his or her Hotmail address to find 100 pitches to "Cum all over my ****" is outrageous. The fact that this same child types in an innocent URL and is redirected to penetration hidden only by little starbursts is also outrageous.

The "wiser" side of the industry has been pleading with the less scrupulous side for years now to limit its exposure to those not legal enough to view their product, but there's too much money at stake to stop "morons" from doing wholly inappropriate things.

If Attorney General Ashcroft had not been so distracted with terrorism, the spankings would already have happened.

Set your clock. The pendulum will swing.