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Instead of focusing on launching a search engine, try your expertise at how you can make the big 2 or 3 search engines better. Case in point WA just did a deal with BING.

This will be your fastest if not the only way to search success.
 

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Yeah I never really looked at CPU when I index.
It might not be a major factor, however it *could* be the server load (i.e. CPU load) that is causing it.

Thank you. Truth is I don't code. Open source script at the moment with me hiring programmers. I only program visual basic (I <3 It).
Ah okay, that still sounds a good way of doing it.

Yes there's a big chance it might. The problem with doing it like bing is I'll have to search on the web for full rights image i can put on the site. If you look at bing they use the images they have rights to (theres free ones on teh web). Also mine is a bit different from bing as the bg is full page and bing is a little box. If i do have changing bgs per day like bing i'll have mascot with it.
Hmm yeah, that makes sense. Sounds a nice way of doinit.

High school here . But seriously maybe you could consider selling the tools on DP or any webmaster forum. It could be a potential money maker. But make sure I'm not sure if I would do this possibly encrypt the php as there's alot of people on dp and everywhere who loves to claim their work as their own and sell it even though they have no rights to do it.
Hehe yeah :) Uni/High school - they both lead to less internet time though ;)

As for the tools - that is definitely an idea :) I'm still hoping that Cogah (or even one or two of its tools) will take off, and if so I could look at creating an API and (for example) charging for use of it (so webmasters could use my tools that way). However if it never quites 'gets there', I'll sure consider selling some of the tools.

Either that or develop one or two of the tools further.

Something that would be cool but possibly more work. Maybe you could make a giant giant google cache sort of. Of course if you do I'll have my search engine feed off your cache then.
Hmm yeah that's an option :) As I say, if/when any of the tools take off, I'm definitely planning on extending some of them. I'm also learning Java at Uni; I could always make a more standalone downloadable software with some of the more useful tools (etc). Sometimes people prefer downloadable tools to web-based ones.

Or possibly not. I don't think the first person searching car would mind
Hehe yes, true enough ;)

Too much head start. THey own around 450k servers.
450k servers is no big deal... just kidding! Yeah it's pretty crazy stuff.


Anywhoo.....the coder for html is a bit slow as he has trouble opening the 270 mb of psd. LOL :p

Anyhow it would be done soon the homepage subpages etc. The script is the next thing ill conquer.
270? Wow, nice lol :)

Will be cool to see it piece together bit by bit for sure.
 

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It might not be a major factor, however it *could* be the server load (i.e. CPU load) that is causing it.
It's around 1.1 load most of the time.

Ah okay, that still sounds a good way of doing it.
Yep. Lowering the cost also.

Hmm yeah, that makes sense. Sounds a nice way of doinit.
Yep. It would have the same fade in effect as in bing which makes it so it doesn't need the image to load befoer you use the site. You can use the site before the image load (that's better in wording).
Hehe yeah :) Uni/High school - they both lead to less internet time though ;)
Definately. Definately. But the thing is after I get the script all set up everything is done it's all end up with the server and then spidering the whole web. That doesn't really require alot of time as I run cron jobs and let it run. The problem is paying for the servers while I index.

As for the tools - that is definitely an idea :) I'm still hoping that Cogah (or even one or two of its tools) will take off, and if so I could look at creating an API and (for example) charging for use of it (so webmasters could use my tools that way). However if it never quites 'gets there', I'll sure consider selling some of the tools.
I'm sure it would. Try to advertise it on webmaster forums (can't name any here due to rules). Api is also great. Maybe you should make a few firefox addons or plugins would be nice. A great example of a successful web tool site is iwebtool :).
Either that or develop one or two of the tools further.


Hmm yeah that's an option :) As I say, if/when any of the tools take off, I'm definitely planning on extending some of them. I'm also learning Java at Uni; I could always make a more standalone downloadable software with some of the more useful tools (etc). Sometimes people prefer downloadable tools to web-based ones.
I prefer web ones. I think most people do though. Some people only use downloadable ones if it has way more features than the web one.

Hehe yes, true enough ;)
mmmm

450k servers is no big deal... just kidding! Yeah it's pretty crazy stuff.
Yes 450,000 servers all around the world with datacenters worldwide. Mhmm.


270? Wow, nice lol :)

Will be cool to see it piece together bit by bit for sure.
Everyone didn't want to do this as it took them forever to download the psd. :p I realized it was so big cause of the northern lights on the template. Don't worry though for the html it will be way smaller.


and I just realized school is going to start in 5 days.
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Here's some background on your competition:

Spanning 10 football fields, filled with tens of thousands of servers, data centers are the information mills that churn out the goods and services of the digital world, processing online bank transactions, delivering e-mail, uploading photos, streaming video to Internet users around the world.

These centers, which can cost upward of $100 million to build, also suck massive amounts of energy. Electricity powers the servers in giant facilities that have to be precisely cooled to keep the machines from melting under their own heat.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoft/2009204767_greendata11.html

As of last spring Microsoft was bringing a new server online every 15 minutes, 24 hours a day and 365 days per year. Last fall they began buying shipping containers full of servers. They just drive a semi-truck right into the datacenter, drop the container, connect one power and one data cable and voila. Have notes somewhere on the amount of compute power, cpu's, etc. Numbers are so massive -- and heat so intense -- if a computer fails they just turn it off. Here's a video that shows the concept:

http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/...in_its_data-center_energy_usage_42817632.html

I think Microsoft has eleven datacenters worldwide; no idea for google. The power requirements are so large they typically try to locate near hydroelectric dams or nuclear plants.

Amazing stuff -- and remember they've been at this a few years.
 

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Here's some background on your competition:



http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoft/2009204767_greendata11.html

As of last spring Microsoft, was bringing a new server online every 15 minutes, 24 hours a day and 365 days per year. Last fall they started buying shipping containers full of servers. Just drive a semi-truck right into the datacenter, drop the container, connect one power and one data cable and voila. Have notes somewhere on the amount of compute power, cpu's, etc. The numbers are so massive -- and the heat so intense -- if a computer fails they'll just turn it off. Here's a video that shows the concept:

http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/...in_its_data-center_energy_usage_42817632.html

I think Microsoft has eleven worldwide datacenters; no idea on google. Power requirements are so large they try to locate near hydroelectric or nuclear plants.

Amazing stuff -- and remember they've been at this a few years.
Sounds like fun. :)
 

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It's around 1.1 load most of the time.
Ah okay, that's pretty good then. 1.1 is fine in most modern day servers.

Yep. It would have the same fade in effect as in bing which makes it so it doesn't need the image to load befoer you use the site. You can use the site before the image load (that's better in wording).
I know what you mean; that makes sense. Then you can have relatively higher quality images too without worrying about d/l times too much.

Definately. Definately. But the thing is after I get the script all set up everything is done it's all end up with the server and then spidering the whole web. That doesn't really require alot of time as I run cron jobs and let it run. The problem is paying for the servers while I index.
Yeah I can imagine. Indexing the website sounds a fun task lol ^^

I'm sure it would. Try to advertise it on webmaster forums (can't name any here due to rules). Api is also great. Maybe you should make a few firefox addons or plugins would be nice. A great example of a successful web tool site is iwebtool .
Thanks, will definitely consider that :) If you can please also PM/e-mail me the links to the webmaster forums. I agree they would be the best place to advertise them.

I prefer web ones. I think most people do though. Some people only use downloadable ones if it has way more features than the web one.
Yep, that's true. There are quite a few different options to consider. Plus there aren't *loads* of different websites out there all housing a bunch of tools, so once it gets more well known it should be a good thing.

Yes 450,000 servers all around the world with datacenters worldwide. Mhmm.
Crazy stuff :)

Everyone didn't want to do this as it took them forever to download the psd. I realized it was so big cause of the northern lights on the template. Don't worry though for the html it will be way smaller.
Yeah I can imagine. Pretty crazy that the lights are that big; must be the full size, high-res image or something lol.

and I just realized school is going to start in 5 days.
:(
Yeah I start back in under a month too; not nice stuff lol.
 

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Ah okay, that's pretty good then. 1.1 is fine in most modern day servers.
Yep.

I know what you mean; that makes sense. Then you can have relatively higher quality images too without worrying about d/l times too much.
yeah.

Yeah I can imagine. Indexing the website sounds a fun task lol ^^
I usually run it as a cron job rather than through ssh. I just wait. But today I messed up. I had ran to sphider dmoz.org through cron job. I set it at everyday at 1 pm. Cause I was planning to have it done in one day. It was at 35k links when it had a error and then it stopped. NOw i gotta restart it. I have to run cron jobs now as just one day (also setting the date instead of leaving it as *)

Thanks, will definitely consider that :) If you can please also PM/e-mail me the links to the webmaster forums. I agree they would be the best place to advertise them.
Done. :)

Yep, that's true. There are quite a few different options to consider. Plus there aren't *loads* of different websites out there all housing a bunch of tools, so once it gets more well known it should be a good thing.
Yeah most of them is high alexa high traffic. Your tools are pretty good right now :). I saw a few tools on internet that is open source. Maybe you should modify it for your own use.


Crazy stuff :)
I know :). Wonder how much they would spider. If they spidered it like me with 2-3k per hour with one server. 450,000 X 3000 would probably be a good idea per hour what they spider.

Yeah I can imagine. Pretty crazy that the lights are that big; must be the full size, high-res image or something lol.
Well I heard it was the effect on the top northern lights that causes it. :p

Yeah I start back in under a month too; not nice stuff lol.
Definateeely :) I got to get my schedule on monday i believe.
:)
 
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