For Sale 2 expiration dates - what gives?

[TopNames.com]

I did a Who-Is lookup on www.whois-search.com and got 2 different expiration dates. This happens on many different domains. I included the output...any ideas on which one is right?

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Registrant:
Nitromedia Communications Inc. (CRAMZONE-DOM)
21 St. Clair Avenue East,
ONT, M47 2T7
CA

Domain Name: CRAMZONE.COM

Administrative Contact:
Adelson, Robert (RA3297) [email protected]
Nitromedia Communications Inc.
21 St. Clair Avenue East, Penthouse
Toronto, Ont. M47 2T7
CA
+1 416 515 2930 (FAX) +1 416 515 2931
Technical Contact:
Technical Contact (SO69-ORG) [email protected]
AT&T Canada
1300-525 University Avenue
Toronto, Ontario M5G 2L3
CA
866-282-0111
Fax- 888-253-0806
Record expires on 10-Mar-2003.
Record created on 10-Mar-1999.
Database last updated on 31-Mar-2003 07:49:39 EST.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.NBC.NETCOM.CA 207.181.89.2
NS2.NBC.NETCOM.CA 207.181.89.3


Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

Domain Name: CRAMZONE.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS1.NBC.NETCOM.CA
Name Server: NS2.NBC.NETCOM.CA
Status: REGISTRAR-HOLD
Updated Date: 16-mar-2003
Creation Date: 10-mar-1999
Expiration Date: 10-mar-2004

 

[Mr Webname]

This was the reply to an earlier question, which I think is correct:-

"The registrar has to renew the domain name to put it on hold, otherwise it would go straight into REDEMPTIONPERIOD."

 

[TopNames.com]

So based on the info above does this domain expire on 3/2003 or 3/2004?

 

[Mr Webname]

Originally posted by TopNames.com


So based on the info above does this domain expire on 3/2003 or 3/2004?

I would say it expires on 3/2003 and the Registrar has had to renew it for a year to put it on hold. If it isn't renewed by the registrant then it will eventually go into Redemption Period and then Pending Delete.
I can't see any other reason why it would now show:-

1) An additional year added.
2) Listed as Registrar-Hold.

Anyone else got any other ideas?

 

[TopNames.com]

It's weird...this is going on with a lot of domains...I removed a few snaps because I thought they were renewed...but I'm not so sure they were renewed now.

Any help would be great

Thanks.

 

[Anthony Ng]

This was discussed in another thread started more than 2 months ago:

http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19780

 

[TopNames.com]

Thanks for the link slave...but it does not appear to address the two different expiration dates in the same file.

I remember a lot of domains showing a 2009 expiration date and I don't see that anymore...just this weird thing of 2 different expiration dates in the same lookup.

 

[actnow]

I also noticed it on a couple domains earlier this month.

I sent an email to Verisign about the discrepency. They said
that their data was correct. And, then, I noticed that the
data changed.

Another interesting thing I noticed earlier this month. A domain
name that had a expiration date in 2001 but was still marked
active. And, a updated date of 2003. I figure it must have been
a clerical error somewhere. But, how???

So, I thought. "Oh, well. Not my problem!"

 

[Anthony Ng]

There are actually 2 look-up's: one that queries the respective registrar (Network Solutions in this case) and the other verisign-grs (the registry), and that's why you've got 2 different expiration dates.

 

[TopNames.com]

thanks slave

 

[David G]

Originally posted by TopNames.com It's weird...this is going on with a lot of domains...I removed a few snaps because I thought they were renewed...but I'm not so sure they were renewed now. Any help would be great Thanks.

Also seen this happen several times on names I was following where the exp date went from 2003 then to 2004 and back tp 2003.

Almost cancelled a great Snap on one of my best names when I saw the exp date get changed to 2004. Just by luck I kept the Snap on it (as I did not have another one to switch the Snap to) and after a few days it went back to 2003 and Snapnames got it.

Perhaps this is happening due to computer problems or errors at the registry level, anyone know for sure?

 

[Shaggy]

Real...I have seen the same thing....the name looked like it was renewed with the year going from 2003 to 2004. Then all of the sudden it goes back to 2003. Luckly I hadn't taken my snap off of it either. Funny thing is....the status still says active, and has not changed for over 2 months......?!?!?!

As Yodia would say it.."confusing stuff it is....yes".....

 

[TurNIC.com]

The important line is STATUS, which is registrar-hold. It is a hold domain which means it is expired. Just don'y look at the expiration dates

 

[Sharpy]

What I've been seeing is:

A week or so after the name expires the registrar updates the staus to Reg-hold and renews the name to exactly one year after the original expiry date. As said above if it's in hold/RGP/PendDelete status, it's gonna drop(unless owner renewed) regardless of what the updated expiry date says.

TN your name definitley expired on March 10th, 2003 and is headed towards RGP.