bad whois info grounds for domain cancelation?

[seeker]

you know what.
just to prove this idiotic system wrong I will do it.
Even though I need this domain, I will make it public, to prove the stupidity behind the system....
sad.. I really wanted this one.
Then again, this applies to at least 10 domains I want.
ICANNT is so stupid. I wish I had some higher court calling to say 'you idiots, you cant do your job, you are all fired'...

 

[mkx]

thats the spirit! Keep us posted

 

[Dave Zan]

I can only imagine what was going thru you prior to your doing that, seeker:

Your angelic side appears on your right and says, "Don't do it! You're a good
man!". Then your devil side appears on your left and says, "Yeah, do it. Screw
the domain owner, it's his/her fault s/he isn't complying!". :-/

I apologize but I don't really understand what you just did: report bad WHOIS
or start a transfer? Because if you started a transfer and the admin email on
record is dead, how's it going to be confirmed with the gaining registrar?

On the other hand, if you did the bad WHOIS thingie, then yes, do keep us
posted. :-D

 

[seeker]

it reminds me of a Tom & Jerry cartoon I watched with my son.
Yes, thw right and wrong thingy....
So what did I do?
did my ethics win or did greed win???
f**k it.
my rep is more important, as my ethics are.
so I told my misstress if she can go for shoping therapy, then so can I.
domain shopping therapy.
what a coincidense 'mis stress'. U bet!
misstress...

mis stress.........................

 

[mkx]

it reminds me of a Tom & Jerry cartoon I watched with my son.
Yes, thw right and wrong thingy....
So what did I do?
did my ethics win or did greed win???
f**k it.
my rep is more important, as my ethics are.
so I told my misstress if she can go for shoping therapy, then so can I.
domain shopping therapy.
what a coincidense 'mis stress'. U bet!
misstress...

mis stress.........................

:santa: :santa: :santa: :santa: :santa: :santa:

 

[seeker]

haaahhhh.
it is wrong.
just because i am about to own the domain i wanted, it does not mean the method is right.
it could be worst.
I thnik I cannt is showing signs of I can.
I CAN N

 

[mkx]

lol, your doing it in good faith for a good purpose

 

[seeker]

sweet home alabama (athens)
http://www.crazylyrics.com/lynyrd-skynyrd-sweet-home-alabama.htm

 

[dotNetKing]

Why don't you just send a transfer request through your registrar for the name since if he doesn't reply, I believe you now get the name.

I don't think this is the case. And I would also hope it isn't.

If a transfer request from the *gaining* registrar isn't initially authorised by the admin e-mail, the transfer automatically fails.

The losing registrar can now no longer block a transfer like it used to be able to, but the gaining registrar still requires authorisation from the admin e-mail before it can process a transfer.

 

[seeker]

right..
"Big wheels keep on turning
Carry me home to see my kin
Singing songs about the Southland
I miss Alabamy once again
And I think its a sin, yes

Well I heard mister Young sing about her
Well, I heard ole Neil put her down
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A Southern man don't need him around anyhow

Sweet home Alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet Home Alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you

In Birmingham they love the governor
Now we all did what we could do
Now Watergate does not bother me
Does your conscience bother you?
Tell the truth

Sweet home Alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet Home Alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you
Here I come Alabama

Now Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers
And they've been known to pick a song or two
Lord they get me off so much
They pick me up when I'm feeling blue
Now how about you?

Sweet home Alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet Home Alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you

Sweet home Alabama
Oh sweet home baby
Where the skies are so blue
And the governor's true
Sweet Home Alabama
Lordy
Lord, I'm coming home to you
Yea, yea Montgomery's got the answer"

 

[Dave Zan]

Lol!

 

[anony]

This whole idea of stealing the domain like this seems to be "wrong".

Have you ever thought that may be the poor man got some D&Ds or something before and now trying to protect his/her domain from big corporations etc.

Imagine yourself in such a situation. What will you do?

Plus, how can one really prove that all the 3 things are wrong: address, phone, e-mail

ICANN does not say that all 3 need to be correct, plus mistakes/typos can happen also.

So where does it leave you if you do it?.....may be in a complicated mess?

Just my 2 cents on this issue.

Thanks,

 

[mkx]

I don't think this is the case. And I would also hope it isn't.

If a transfer request from the *gaining* registrar isn't initially authorised by the admin e-mail, the transfer automatically fails.

The losing registrar can now no longer block a transfer like it used to be able to, but the gaining registrar still requires authorisation from the admin e-mail before it can process a transfer.

From my knowledge, the rules changed late last year saying that if the admin doesn't reply to the transfer email within a certain amount of time (I believe 5 days) then the transfer will go through automatically. Yes this is wrong and unethical but that's the way the system works. If the guy wants to protect his identity, he should just use some sort of whois protection service

 

[mole]

Contact the registrar and threaten to report them to the FBI for harboring criminals.

The name I reported about 1-2 months ago now has this as whois:

Registrant:
This domain is not active.
invalid WHOIS, domain disabled
invalid WHOIS, domain disabled
invalid WHOIS, domain disabled
invalid WHOIS domain disabled, WY 99999
US
9990000000
Fax:9980000000


Domain Name: __________

Administrative Contact:
This domain was reported to, ICANN for invalid WHOIS info. [email protected]
invalid WHOIS, domain disabled
invalid WHOIS, domain disabled
invalid WHOIS, domain disabled
invalid WHOIS domain disabled, WY 99999
US
9990000000
Fax:9980000000


Technical Contact:
This domain was reported to, ICANN for invalid WHOIS info. [email protected]
invalid WHOIS, domain disabled
invalid WHOIS, domain disabled
invalid WHOIS, domain disabled
invalid WHOIS domain disabled, WY 99999
US
9990000000
Fax:9980000000

 

[seeker]

I sent out the emails to both Icannt and goooo dady gooo.
Lets see what happens.
I just couldnt bring myself to do the transfer thingy.
If you are serious in this business, your reputation comes first.

 

[mkx]

or-the-domain-will-be-deleted.com - thanks for the domain idea

Seeker, I guess your making the right decision. I don't think doing a single transfer like this for the purpose you imposed will shatter ones reputation but I do understand that it may not be the most ethical thing to do, it does set a good point in the industry though.

I might consider it for the domain name I am seeking, I will first try to do everything in my power to contact the owner. I don't think haven't Icann drop the name is the right solution for this domain because if it does drop, I will likely be outbid by thousands.

 

[dotNetKing]

From my knowledge, the rules changed late last year saying that if the admin doesn't reply to the transfer email within a certain amount of time (I believe 5 days) then the transfer will go through automatically.

No. The only e-mail that is required to be sent out is the e-mail from the gaining (winning) registrar.

If this e-mail is not replied to, the transfer automatically *fails*.

The *losing registrar* is no longer allowed to require authorisation. They can notifiy admin e-mail of the pending transfer, so that admin e-mail has the chance to contact their registrar to try to stop the transfer, but there is now no e-mail sent by the losing registrar to admin e-mail requiring authorisation.

There still seems to be quite a lot of uncertainty about this, even amongst us for whom knowledge of how this works is really quite important.

 

[eSology]

No. The only e-mail that is required to be sent out is the e-mail from the gaining (winning) registrar.

If this e-mail is not replied to, the transfer automatically *fails*.

The *losing registrar* is no longer allowed to require authorisation. They can notifiy admin e-mail of the pending transfer, so that admin e-mail has the chance to contact their registrar to try to stop the transfer, but there is now no e-mail sent by the losing registrar to admin e-mail requiring authorisation.

BINGO!

 

[ehdonhon]

No. The only e-mail that is required to be sent out is the e-mail from the gaining (winning) registrar.

If this e-mail is not replied to, the transfer automatically *fails*.

Right, but the gaining registrar is required to contact the admin contact from WHOIS, not the contact that just initiated the transfer. So if the admin contact e-mail is invalid then, in theory, the transfer should never start.

 

[mkx]

Ahh I see