Can we take domains tools to court?

[DN BROKER]

1+1=2

 

[Theo]

Old news about public info. It's the same as someone searching for your past addresses, phone numbers etc. and selling them to whoever is interested.

Do we have to love DomainTools for this service? Maybe some have a legitimate use for such reports.

 

[dcristo]

Exactly it's public knowledge just repackaged. It's not like the reports are cheap and you can choose to use private whois details.

 

[Gerry]

Plus, if you want to shell out the prices they are charging then have at it.

Best thing to do is use the first and last name as something like DOMAINS FOR SALE. There are over a half a million using this.

Pay for that list!

 

[Dale Hubbard]

NameIntelligence seem to make some ludicrous assumptions.

Get the competitive edge with our exclusive ICANN Report, a private label reporting system that provides you, the Registrar, with the daily activity of your competitors. We are the internet's sole source for this information and no other company in the world is capable of tracking and monitoring every registrar day to day.

Monitoring daily registrar changes is hardly rocket science, just a question of scale.

Of course, it is us, the punters that build their whois history database. If you don't want to support their activities, use a whois client.

 

[Focus]

use moniker $1 privacy for ALL your domains

 

[petrosc]

I'd use privacy only on TM sensitive and Adult names - no need for privacy on the rest of the names - it will reduce direct sales inquiries
JMO

 

[Gerry]

I'd use privacy only on TM sensitive and Adult names - no need for privacy on the rest of the names - it will reduce direct sales inquiries
JMO

Petro! Happy Holidays!

Have not seen you much and hope your studies are going well!

Peace for the New Year!

 

[petrosc]

Petro! Happy Holidays!

Have not seen you much and hope your studies are going well!

Peace for the New Year!

Hey Doc, thank you, Happy holidays to you too buddy The studies are going well thank you, but this year it's consuming a lot of my time, that's why you see less of me online

 

[BobDiGiTaL]

keep the dot com the same but change the name.
EX
[email protected]
[email protected]
It will say only one domain registered to [email protected]
and only 1 domain registered to [email protected]
nobody knows nothin'

 

[katherine]

How does registrant search complies with Icann rules ?

The data in this whois database is provided to you for information
purposes only, that is, to assist you in obtaining information about or
related to a domain name registration record. We make this information
available "as is", and do not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a
whois query, you agree that you will use this data only for lawful
purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to:
(1) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that stress or
load this whois database system providing you this information; or
(2) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass
unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via fascimile,
electronic mail, or by telephone. The compilation, repackaging,
dissemination or other use of this data is expressly prohibited without
prior written consent from us. ...

 

[Dale Hubbard]

How does registrant search complies with Icann rules ?

Legality of that disclaimer has previously been held to be tenuous at best.

 

[BGray]

sdsinc,
they don't do either of the items that you have bolded. They store the data themselves which doesn't cause stress on the whois servers and they make the email data an image so it can't be harvested for mass solicitation.

OP,
You can take anyone to court you wish. Doesn't mean you'll win though....

 

[Dale Hubbard]

a) They do a whois lookup on every request.

b) The results of that augment their historical database.

c) The reason they get away with it is that the requestor's IP address is passed to the whois server, not theirs.

d) The 'captcha' they use for the email address can be easily translated into text by any first-year image processing undergrad.

e) Who knows what they will sell you if you ask. I don't, so I'll pass on that answer.

 

[BGray]

a) They do a whois lookup on every request.

Are you sure about this? If so, how?

 

[Dale Hubbard]

Are you sure about this? If so, how?

Well, they have to do it for the history augmentation. How they do it depends on their query quota status. So it will either be on port 43 or port 80. If those quotas are full, then:

a) They have a relationship with the registrar, or

b) They have a large bank of servers with different class C static IP addresses, or

c) They use proxies, or

d) They reboot their dynamic IP routers every 10 minutes, or

e) Something along those lines.

 

[katherine]

They have registrar credentials, don't they ?
BTW their availability results are not real time, it's sure they cache data.

 

[Dale Hubbard]

They have registrar credentials, don't they ?
BTW their availability results are not real time, it's sure they cache data.

a) Probably registrar relationships

b) Real time > cache

c) Yes they do real time lookups but > cached/static database