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Originally posted by snoopy


tee,

just wondering what the term "concept basket" is? Do you mean groups of similar domains?

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Hi snoopy. Well, what I mean is collections of either the exact same name in different extensions or *very* related names in different or the same extensions. For me, the reason to get these is so you can make sites and link them together and get the benefit of link relevancy in se's like google and others. Google loves related urls with single keywords or hyphenated names linking together - not just because of content or the keywords in the link to a site. You could do it with subdomains but the effect does not seem to be as great as the keyword that is right before the actual extension. And subdomains are inferior for offline marketing and branding and especially reselling. This way you have exposure through high rank in se's and also the fine genericity of the name/s for offline marketing in any way you choose.

I'm sure others have more sophisticated or even different meanings.
 
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Also from Afternic, Namewinner, Icannwatch (aka anomymous) and New.net forums :cool:

moles like to snoop :D
 
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I'm working on a few themes/baskets. When I reach number 1 in google or as high as I believe I can get on these keywords, I'll show you what I mean. Nothing beats dramatic examples to illustrate a concept.

BTW, This is a very nice message board.

Oh and yes, I'm tomsters.

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adding on to Tee,

In the past, developers used to work off a one-size-fits-all model of building around just one domain name.

Problem was, you optimise visual experience and sub-optimise search optimisation, or visa-versa.

Concept baskets allow you to use different domains to collectively drive and keep traffic within a specific area of interest.

A .info domain, for example, would be deployed specifically as a search engine beacon, and this site would then link directly to the real selling site.

In my case, I've got mirror images of .info and .biz names all around one industry. The .info (text rich site) targets the search engines, the .biz (image rich site) targets user experience.
 

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adding on to Tee,

The .info (text rich site) targets the search engines, the .biz (image rich site) targets user experience.

Mole, are you suggesting .biz is a more credible extension in consumers minds?
 

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not for B2C, dotcom still rules this area.

But for B2B, for the consulting business, professional dealings, trainings, seminars, executive jobs etc.

.biz lends a special polish that .com doesn't seem to deliver - a kind of elitist upmarket feel to the internet arena.

If you are into B2C and mass traffic, stick with .com. If you a B2B specialist, .biz may provide that edge you need.

.pro was supposed to cater to that. But pro seems extremely pretensious and self-assumming.
 

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hi mole,

i know you think .com is only associated with the dotbombs, but its also where the success stories reside too.

any examples of .biz being used as preferential to .com by any recognized companies?
 

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not at this point in time, no. you know that .biz is still off the starting blocks and .com is 15 laps round the tracks.

It will be silly for a major business depending on mass traffic to abandon .com because of its default value.

But for every major business with a good dotcom name, there are hundreds of smaller ones who have to settle for the less than ideal ones. It is these businesses that will go for the new extensions if available.

We sometimes forget, there are many businesses out there who don't depend on the mantra of casual type-ins for a living. Here in Singapore, most of the businesses here are just fine with their .com.sg extensions and hum along profitably.

In the UK, .co.uk does just fine for the SMEs.

But granted, .com still is a necessary extension by default. My primary business domain has .com registered till 2010. I'm interested in the future, and with real choice of names, the future can only see diminishing value and prominence for dotcom.

The scarcity mentality which boosted dotcom resale value is diminishing fast.
 

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thats true about the cctld's, many of them thrive for domestic trade reasons and also because they got a foothold before the speculators moved in.

But I can't see .biz making the grade, so was just wondering if you'd seen anything suggesting otherwise. If you come across anything like that in the future, I'd appreciate you letting me know.
 

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I'll be looking out for CNN.biz, safesys :D

I think Neulevel has been slowly building the backroom infrastructure to make .biz more than appealing to businesses eg. whobiz.biz and postminder.biz. They have been very professional about it.

.com has hardly any WIP to add real registry value to the extension.

It's a question of time, .biz is a specialist extension for business interchange so I won't expect anything flashy and large scale ala Amazon or Yahoo or Ebay.

.biz will on the most grow in the fringes of the corporate world, and for me, that's cool.
 
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I don't have many .biz names (guitars.biz being my one true baby and one entryway into a guitar/music se basket that I'm working on) and I still believe that .biz is kind of slangy sounding for a "business only" extension and that the restrictions are ridiculous (and damaging to the registry imo) but well intentioned (at least for internet users but maybe not for the actual registry) but I have to say neulevel/neustar is a good registry. They are very cool. Some guy from the registry, jneuman I think, actually posts responses and listens to complaints from people on the icann board and apparently, acts on them. They are very quick to respond by email with explicit and professional answers.

Neustar is advertising .US in a big way already.

Can you imagine .info in neustars/neulevels hands?
 

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I still believe that it's kind of slangy sounding for a "business only" extension

Tee I agree, I really don't see businesses adopting an extension like that, shouldn't it be ".bus"?? :laugh:
 
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I think .bus would work for like a bus extension. But thats even more limited than .tv! Get your bus at stocks.bus!

Stocks will be just like busses! Moving you quickly from stock exchange to stockmarket on the stocks bus!

I don't like it ( lol). Biz is really the shortest way to say business if you think about it inspite of its slanginess and the existence of the devasting .com.

But I agree, the freakin z hurts hurts my teeth dammit!

But, on the fringes they crawl, merciless desperatos.

I think neulevel/neustar has a good attitude which might have some nice cash behind it.

It's all very interesting anyways.
 

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i have to agree with the biz=slang view.

a much better, and more user friendly approach, would have been .shop or .store imo with .pro mopping up the professional services sector as an addition.

.bus would look like a tld geared towards the transport sector - but at least it would be a real word for it :)
 
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