Dertermining original creation date not in Melbourne IT WHOIS

[BELLC1]

I am looking at a domain that is registered with melbourne IT but the WHOIS records for them do not have creation date, just last update date.

How can I determine the original first-registration date or even the creation date by the current registrant?

 

[Theo]

DomainTools.com

 

[WeBuyThe.Com]

You can also try betterwhois.com

 

[katherine]

Check with the registry: http://registrar.verisign-grs.com/whois/

 

[BELLC1]

I should have been more clear. I did check DomainTools which had no more info than the MelbourneIT registry had, AND it's a com.au domain so Verisign is useless (again).

 

[katherine]

I'm not familiar with .au domains but it looks like the registry is not returning creation date either.
http://www.mywebname.com.au/