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DomainFolio! - New Tool Survey

What would you pay for a product like DomainFolio?

  • I am not interested in something like this.

    Votes: 5 27.8%
  • I would prefer a service, and NOT web script I have to install.

    Votes: 2 11.1%
  • I would pay at most $20

    Votes: 4 22.2%
  • I would pay at most $50

    Votes: 5 27.8%
  • I would pay at most $75

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • I would pay at most $100

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I would pay at most $150

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • I'd pay more than $150, if it does what you say

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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Nexus

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Hello,

We're moving toward the final stages on version 1 of a comprehensive web-based domain management script called DomainFolio. If you've seen the STATUS CHECKER tool on FreeWho.com, it is primarily based on that, but it is the next stage in its possibilities.

In a nutshell, this system (PHP based) will allow you to import all of your names into it, and organize your names into groups. You can "status check" any and all groups you like, on demand. The tool automatically knows analyzes and reports on all manner of useful data concerning that domain name. It includes registrar, registry, and reseller databases that can be customized and updated as you see fit (allowing you to add and modify new entries).

Most powerfully, when viewing an individual domain, the page displays miniature calendars, showing the date of creation and expiration for that domain (if they have been recorded). You can then click to find all domains in your system that have similar criteria, like creation month, creation year, expiration month, expiration year, etc. At a glance, the "home" page shows the registrar breakdown of all your domains, as an example, something like this:

72 - eNom eNom, Inc. www.enom.com
3 - Network Solutions Network Solutions, Inc. www.networksolutions.com
25 - Tucows Tucows, Inc. www.opensrs.org
3 - Register.com Register.com www.register.com
1 - Internet Names Worldwide Melbourne IT, Ltd. www.melbourneit.com
7 - Bulkregister BulkRegister.com, Inc. www.bulkregister.com
1 - StarGate Stargate Communications Inc. www.stargateinc.com
1 - RESERVED-IANA Internet Assigned Numbers Authority www.iana.org
1 - DomainName, Inc. DomainName, Inc. www.domainname.com
As well, on the home page (and using the advanced "search" features, you'll be able to instantly find any domains in your database using Wildcard searches like *.info, do*, or *my*.com. It will pull up all matches, and allow you to edit further.

You'll be able to create GROUPS to sort your domains into for whatever purpose you need. You can have groups that represent specific clients, for whom you are managing their web presence (eg. Hardon Oil, HyperPhone Inc., Equinox Ltd), you can create groups of domains for particular usage categories (eg. business, personal, PPC, etc), or even groups that specify which domains are on which of your webservers (or IHPs). An instance of each domain can be placed ONCE into any existing group. As well, the system accomodates "specialized" groups, called "views", that can allow you to monitor names that are "dropping" or that have been entered into any number of "drop services". These "special" views are different from the "normal" groups as they allow you to assign additional qualities to each item in the group, such as the SERVICE each item in it is associated with (eg. SnapNames, NameWinner, ClupDrop, etc.)

Domains Names, by virtue of their registry entries, will automatically belong to a given Registry AND Registrar. Users may also add Resellers to each Registrar, and assign each domain names to the Reseller entry of their choice.

Included with the package is a full "whois" tool, that as mentioned above will allow each individual to customize it, and add additional registry entries to it as needed. Future versions may or may not roll in wholly new, additional features, but the existing feature set will continue to be enhanced and expanded. This feature is also used when taking "snapshots" of whois records over time (which you can do from inside the viewing page on any given domain). Grabbing registrar-level "whois" results will not be "automated" with this first release. You will need to go into each domain individually. Along with "whois" snapshots, you can add notes to any domain names (time stamped), any registry, any registrar, or any reseller you want (for record keeping purposes).

Lastly, in addition to all that has been mentioned above, the main website DomainFolio.com, will allow users to get additional Registrar information from that website, as well as add their review of registrars, registries, and resellers they have opinions on (directly from their management pages).

Again, the script is PHP-based, and currently supports MySQL. Support is planned for many other database formats as well, including "Access .MDB file", "PostgreSQL", "ODBC", and "MS SQL".

Now, my question to you is, how would you value a package like this? I have created a poll, and would appreciate getting feedback on how useful (and of what value) this product would be to you. Comment below on what you think, and post to the poll as well.

Thank You,
~ Nexus
 

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sounds great.... like to test it out before making a price judgement, but its something iam looking for... (even if iam running on my box locally)


will all the information public on your site, ie everyone can see others domain info, or just basic whois stuff

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Originally posted by unclewilco
sounds great.... like to test it out before making a price judgement, but its something iam looking for... (even if iam running on my box locally)
You can certainly do that. You'll need to be running a webserver like IIS or Apache with PHP installed though.
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will all the information public on your site, ie everyone can see others domain info, or just basic whois stuff
wilco
Anything you record would only be stored in *your* database. No one else can see it, and you have to log into the system to modify and update it (password protected). The "reviews" will be publically available from DomainFolio.com when it is launched.

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is there any problems with the number of whois querys if you were running on a large amount of names? i mean could your ip get banned if you were running a query on say 2000 names?

not that i have that many but you know gotta ask these kind of things :)
 

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Verisign limits you to 1000 queries per IP address per 24 hours.
If you run the product locally from a computer (as commented on above) connected through DHCP, you could concievably release and renew your IP address to get around this. But, basically, it is the same limitation imposed on most everyone.

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Another thing I forgot to mention... funny, because this is one of the reasons for creating this whole infrastructure for this kind of user (for this one easy feature). It will have a chart that shows the amounts and distribution of domains expiring over a month, and over a year. Basically, on the "HOME" page, you can see which domains are expiring over a given month, and which domains are expiring over a given year (in a graph).

: JULY 2003 EXPIRATIONS: 5 (click to see)
: AUGUST 2003 EXPIRATIONS: 0
: NOVEMBER 2003 EXPIRATIONS: 2 (click to see)
: DECEMBER 2003 EXPIRATIONS: 10 (click to see)

: 2003 EXPIRATIONS: 34 (click for detail)
: 2004 EXPIRATIONS: 56 (click for detail)
: 2005 EXPIRATIONS: 23 (click for detail)

The above is not as graphically clear as it will be in the product however. As I continue my work, I realized how hard it becomes to keep track of when names are expiring, and more importantly, when/where the "density" of the expirations will increase or decrease over time. For some, it is less an issue than for others. Even with small domain collections, it is nice to look over the landscape of your assets and get quick summaries on what is going on.

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Sounds somewhat useful. I'd want to play with a live demo before deciding on value to me, since I've pretty much consolidated to 2-3 registrars.

It also sounds like you are toying with the idea of a multi-user version for yourself as a sellable service via domainfolio.com. Any chance that version would be available to others to resell the database services as well?
 

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Originally posted by adoptabledomains
Sounds somewhat useful. I'd want to play with a live demo before deciding on value to me, since I've pretty much consolidated to 2-3 registrars.
That's definitely nice. It also helps organizing names between different servers, etc. The more names you have, the more disseparate purposes these names seem to fall into. One of the initial concerns the product was designed for is tracking data easily during registrar transfers, server moves (nameserver changes), and expired name monitoring.

Originally posted by adoptabledomains
It also sounds like you are toying with the idea of a multi-user version for yourself as a sellable service via domainfolio.com. Any chance that version would be available to others to resell the database services as well?
Possible. The consideration currently is that multi-user functionality will not be in the normal package (one user only). The multi-user version is something we're looking to make available as a service. The notion is to make a "FREE" version available via "FreeWho.com", with a low upper limited to the amount of domains people can organize, track, and monitor (possibly 10-15 names). I see this as useful to small businesses and hobbyists looking to better handle the world of domain names. A more robust version would be available via DomainFolio.com for a small yearly fee (50 names). The most flexible (and unrestricted) version would always be the one you install yourself on your own server (where resource issues become your concern). My company provides hosting services too, so offering a combination software/hosting package at some point wouldn't be out of the question eventually.

A live online demo should be available before the end of this month.

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Here is a shot of the real "Registrar Distribution" table mentioned earlier, as shown on the Control Panel "home page". The "link" on the name is to the Registrar homepage. Because each registrar in the system has its own entry in the database (cross referenced by ID), it is still being decided how much information should be shown about a given registrar and in which cases. On the "domain info" page (screen shot further below), you see that the "company name" and URL are shown.
[ Registrar Distribution - screen clip ] (38 k)

So, as an update, development has taken a turn, and we've added in the ability to view link popularity for a given domain name, and to dynamically ADD any responses from search engines you would like to "watch".

Also, another "nexus" opportunity has presented itself, and we are now able to view information regarding what operating system the server of a given domain is running on, what country the IP address is assigned to, and all information regarding the owner of the IP block the domain name responds from (see "domain info" screenshot below). This allows someone to get a breakdown of where their domains "are" virtually speaking, without meticulously organizing this themselves. Also, if you are "tracking" certain domains, this gives you all sorts of reporting data to use for whatever business decisions you may need to make in approaching owners for sales, or determining other regionally influenced assumptions.

Along with "registrar" distribution (currently auto-detects between 112 registrars on file), users will be able to view "network" distribution (how many domains use Rackspace? how many are with OLM? How many domains use Enom to frame and redirect?) as well as "linkpop" distribution (How many of my domains have linkpop with Google at last check?)

Some new screenshots:
[ Domain Info Page - screenshot ] (46 k)
[ Domain Listings Page - screenshot ] (44 k)
(Please note, contents of images are subject
to change before final product is available)

While it may not make it into the first version, whois data proxies, and Google API support are being planned and considered. I appreciate all the advice and feedback I've gotten from those I've talked to. Please do not hesitate to post any thoughts, feedback, or advice you may have in this thread.

I truly believe this product breaks some new ground, and is headed into fairly uncharted territory with the amount of best-of-breed services/applications it is pulling together into a single source. Our primary focus is having it feel intuitive and highly self-explanatory, as well as creating an unprecedented level of convenience and utility for domain marketers and IT professionals.

Due to the fact that the development of this app has been such an evolutionary process, creating early awareness is important, and more importantly initial feedback is very appreciated.

Kind Regards,
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I voted for "At most $150". It sounds useful, but with the thousands and thousands of superb PHP scripts out there in every genre and category imaginable available for a token fee, it would have to be earth-shaking to be worth more than that...

One key enhancement that I can see based on the IP restriction is the ability to run the package automatically in "trickle mode" i.e. to run it over a large domain portfolio at a throttled down rate, e.g. 500 domains per day. If there were 2000 domains in the portfolio, each domain would get scanned every 4 days on average.

And if you could also make it so that if e.g. 20 IP addresses were available the package could distribute itself across all 20 that would also be valuable I think.
 

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Great feedback, thanks.

I'm cautious about having it consume registry resources when it doesn't need to, so hear's a question... is it less valuable for it to do "smart" checks?

Smart check idea: On an automated batch, if a domain is PAST expiration, and NOT in REDEMPTION or PENDINGDELETE, it could check those, but automatically NOT check domains that have yet to reach their expiration date, or are clearly in the REDEMPTION or PENDINGDELETE cycle. Basically, it could check for PENDINGDELETE status 30 days after REDEMPTIONPERIOD has started, once the status is set to PENDINGDELETE, it won't check anymore? It might greatly cut down on the need for intensive checks, although unorthodox drops would theoretically be missed. I'd figure certain domains could be marked as "always check" in any case.

As for utilizing 20 IP's, definitely planned for the future. The idea would be to allow Whois data proxy scripts to be located remotely, and for the main script to fall to retrieving data returns from these after it meets a daily user-defined threshold. The only problem with the "20 ips", is that as I understand it, these IP's would need to be the IP gateway of the serving machine itself. If multiple IPs are located on one machine, any registry server will NOT note the IP of the individual website running the script, and instead use only that of the server.

I haven't researched how to get around that in an easy way, if it is possible at all. Since the script mostly relies on the registry whois, one notion would be to pull down the zone files automatically each day, and eventually institute a whois "mirror" as a service exclusively to those using the script.

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I'll also volunteer to be a beta tester.
 
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