closed European Union in Swahili: JumuiaYaUlaya.com

[chumvi]

www.JumuiaYaUlaya.com. How worthy is the domain?

"Jumuia ya Ulaya" means "The European Union", in {ki}Swahili.

 

[Fadez]

TheEuropeanUnion.com is worthless, how about JumuiaYaUlaya.com???

Sorry, $0

 

[linkreach]

sorry mate, i have to agree with the $0.

unless someone is looking for that exact domain (end user), it's pretty worthless.

 

[DomainDealer]

Reg. fee

 

[chumvi]

Thanks a lot all of you for appraisal.

However, it would be more enlighting if you gave the reasons why it would be worth US $ 0.00; It would help when acquiring the next batch of domains.

Chumvi

 

[Wot]

TheEuropeanUnion.com cetainly has value so that is one comment to be ignored.

On the other hand JumuiaYaUlaya.com only has value to be held up as typical of names that should not be registered.

A Google search revealed not even one result for JumuiaYaUlaya, that takes some doing- JAMBALAYA was the closest they came. OV not surprisingly also came up zero.

So, all in all the name has no value, does that help?

 

[chumvi]

Thanks Wot,

Jumuia ya Ulaya are three words used as the name of "The European Union" in Kiswahili.

Doing a google and OV search on Jumuia ya Ulaya one gets some results, they may not be much, but definitely not zero. Does this change its value?

 

[Edwin]

Why would anyone want to spend money on a domain that says "the european union" in swahili? How many countries in the EU count swahili as an official language? I believe the answer is zero, which is exactly what this domain is worth.

 

[chumvi]

Thanks Edwin,

One may, for instance, want to put information to the Millions of Swahili speakers, about how, if at all, they are invited to Europe; or why they may or not immigrate to Europe; or How they can trade with Europe; how they can get visa to Europe; marketing conditions of Europe; and the like; So, think about the other side: those people who speak Kiswahili, and may need to know something about The European Union. Still it is of zero value?

 

[seeker]

definately 0.
If they are interested, and have access to the internet, they'd type it in English, or another European language.

you can get all kinds of names like this in xhosa, zulu, etc...etc... but it has no purpase.

 

[Edwin]

Another hint - if you have to defend the value of a name to EVERY appraisal poster, they're almost certainly more right than you.

If it's a split decision then things are greyer, but there's unanimous consensus in this case...

 

[Wot]

Thanks Wot,

Jumuia ya Ulaya are three words used as the name of "The European Union" in Kiswahili.

Doing a google and OV search on Jumuia ya Ulaya one gets some results, they may not be much, but definitely not zero. Does this change its value?

NO

 

[chumvi]

Dear friends,

Thanks again for the appraisals.

Edwin, my intention is not to defend the domain. What I wanted to defend upon were the reasons: so that, next time I would take them into consideration when acquiring new domains, and also use them to advise other niewbies. If I did not ask, the whole process would seem not as transparent, and the learning process would not get that boost all appraisal posts in this (and other threads) have provided. When somebody appraise a domain and gives a reason why he / she thinks the domain is worthy a certain $ range, it helps somebody out there not to repeat 'mistakes' and to register more valuable domains.

Again, thanks everyone.

Chumvi

 

[peekaboo]

'jumuia ya ulaya' produces only miserable 16 returns in google,

while 'yumuiYa ya ulaya' returns 143,

probably signifying that what you've got there is a typo to begin with

so, in my honest opinion a typo of 'the european union' in swahili that produces 16 returns in google, and 0 in overture -- is indeed worth 0.

and i'll give u another hint, registering domains in this day and age is a losing proposition, because all obvious current keyword meanings, as well as most future ones are already taken.

the only way to make sure money is to make popular, established and well visited sites.

 

[chumvi]

whatchamacallit,

Thanks a lot. From your comment, and earlier ones, this domain has got, at the very best, reg value; otherwise it is a worthless name that should be left to decay. However, I am going to develop a website for that, if I have some time to waste; and see whether it appreciates the value.

Otherwise, based on the comments in this thread, two other domains, "Marekani.com" (Marekani means 'The United States of America', 'USA', or 'America' in {Ki}Swahili; and 'Ujerumani.com' (Ujerumani = "Germany") in Kiswahili, are equally worthless?

 

[Edwin]

Yes. The languages are too obscure. To have value, the domain name has to appeal to a BUYER willing to pay for it. Who would buy the two domains you just cited? I can't imagine any company would need them so much they'd buy them off you at a premium.

If you can't answer the "who would buy this domain name" that's a good indication that it has no value.

If you're going to go for non-English domains, at least A) choose languages widely used worldwide and/or used in highly internet-enabled and developed economies and B) look for very bankable generic terms relevant to the people and companies in that linguistic group.

For example, French domains haven't been selling that well (at least not by published sales figures) but I imagine strong generics such as voitures.com (cars), banque.com (bank) etc. would be worth a lot of money. However, even strong second-tier generics have been doing badly, in my limited experience. For instance, imprimantecouleur.com (color printer) only reached $110 on Pool.

And remember, that's French, a widely spoken language with France a (relatively) wired country. So what chance do you have with obscure languages? IMO, none...

 

[Theo]

What is "zero american dollars" in swahili?

 

[SouthernTn]

shouldn't have been registered in the first place. Not even worth Reg Fee.

 

[chumvi]

Edwin,

That piece is quite informative; and have learned a lot. Though Kiswahili may not be that much obscure in the world ('safari', 'simba', 'rafiki') especially in Eastern Parts of Africa, the levels of economies might be just as you have described them. Who might need these domains? May be some American Interests in East Africa; German or European Interests; (Embassies, TV, Radios, investors, etc); or just anybody -- even adversaries of those -- eg , alkaeda -- or their variants. Others are companies that target East Africans that want to study / visit /immigrate America; American / European Propaganda machinery (or anti-American/European); again just anybody. May be Ujerumani.com would be easier to say in each broadcast than http://www2.dw-world.de/kiswahili/ and the like.

Radistar, may be if you tell me "Dola sifuri za Marekani" I may get what you are saying. SouthernTn, you are not talking about Marekani.com and Ujerumani.com, are you?

I have seen somebody selling Swahili domains (http://www.moja.com/domain.html); am not sure how successful he/she is.

Well... thank you everybody, I now know what not to buy (or rather be more carefull) and kindly do me a favour: Kindly appraise PDA domains www2PDA.com and other PDA domains in an old thread http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.php?t=95749

Thank you in advance (asante, in Kiswahili)

Chumvi

 

[sasquatch]

Ask Kenya Tech if they might be interested.

If they are interested, then you know your domain's got no value whatsoever. :-D