GoDaddy Backorder

[EugeneV]

I backordered a domain previously registered with GoDaddy and they failed to capture it! Now I see that someone else has it registered with YOUDAMAIN.COM. How is it possible? Doesn't GoDaddy have priority over its own drop?

 

[Momentum]

No. Once the domain name goes to pending delete status and is then released six days later, then no one has priority over the drop. In most instances you have to get to the domain name before it reaches redemption phase.

 

[EugeneV]

Thank you very much for your explanation.

The weird thing is, I DID GET THE DOMAIN!
I got an email from GoDaddy that my backorder was successful a few days after they told me it failed! In the meantime, whoever won it first chaged registrar twice prior to loosing it to me. What happened? Any ideas?

 

[elpeje]

May be the other registrar released the domain name again due lack of payment from the other party. It could be.

 

[Momentum]

Hi Eugene,

This is happening a lot lately.

Private drop catchers are registering everything that expires. Then after checking the traffic for a couple of days they get a refund for the domains that receive no traffic and the domains are released back for the public to register again. The grace period is something like 5 days after the initial registration.

The private drop catchers have to be in tight with an ICANN-accredited registrar to be able to do this. Because most registrars do not allow refunds for registrations and even fewer will allow for thousands of refunds per day.

This practice used to be considered a manipulation of the system, but it seems to be fair game nowadays.

 

[thewindmaster]

Same thing just happened to me. Backorder a domain through godaddy, they failed then a few days later I got it.

 

[Name Trader]

The private drop catchers have to be in tight with an ICANN-accredited registrar to be able to do this. Because most registrars do not allow refunds for registrations and even fewer will allow for thousands of refunds per day

Actually these "private" dropcatchers are ICANN accredited registrars in their own right. They compete with the big dropcatchers at the drop and generally pick up any desireable name which the big players don't capture. They can "taste" them for 5 days before paying for them or returning them to the registry.

GoDaddy are quite good at capturing a domain which is "tasted" and then dropped again. All the big boys are concentrating on the initial drop whilst GoDaddy is always monitoring the domain. These are rare circumstances indeeed, but they happen. Ask thewindmaster and Eugene V

I backordered a domain previously registered with GoDaddy and they failed to capture it! Now I see that someone else has it registered with YOUDAMAIN.COM. How is it possible? Doesn't GoDaddy have priority over its own drop?

I've seen somebody else complain at the same thing on another forum. The only explaination I could come up with was it went to auction and you didn't receive any notification from GD, then someone else won it at auction. However, this explanation doesn't apply in your case, because you still received the domain after it had been dropped and tasted.

This is maybe looking like a hole in Godaddy system where in some cases the domain being monitored gets dropped instead of being passed over to tdnam for auction.

 

[QuantumBeam]

just keep trying.............

 

[nafti]

Same thing happened to me as well. They said it failed than a couple days later they said they successfully registered it for me. I also heard lately that names that they catch goes straight to their TDNAM.com auction site. Not sure if this is right or not.

 

[Name Trader]

That is correct. Well used to be correct. When I just checked GoDaddy's Domain Name Backordering and Monitoring Agreement, it now states that the domain "may" be offered for sale at The Domain Name Aftermarket. I can't find anymore where they stated that all successful backorders "would" be transfered to TDNAM with the backorder amount being placed as the first bid. I think they are still following the "would" in practice, which has been in place for about a year now.

 

[EugeneV]

The customer service reps @ GoDaddy told me that they only have priority at the drop time IF the backorder was placed prior to domain expiration date. Once it is in the redemption period or pending delete, all drop catchers will have a shot at it regardless of any backorders.

Does this make sense? I did place my backorder when the domain was in PENDINGDELETE phase. It was actually "tasted" twice before GoDaddy got it for me.

 

[manueld64]

Go Daddy / WWD expiring domains lifecycle:
Day 1-18: current domain owner grace period to renew at regular price (for the most part)
Day 19-29: Domain goes into tdnam.com auction for 10 days. Current owner can redeem for 80
Day 30 to 42: Domain goes into 12 day holding wait for auction winner or backorder lock. Current owner can redeem for 80
Day 43: Domain gets awarded to auction winner or backorder holder. (Backorder counts as a bid in the auction BTW) If no backorder or auction winner, domain goes into redemption at the registry and current owner can do 80 redemption and any registrar with a backorder service can grab it if it deletes day 70-75.