Hey Guys

[DaddyHalbucks]

Moderator Note: This was split from a thread in the sales section where a Member offered to sell various names. You might want to refer to the sales thread here:

http://www.dnforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33856

While I understand the point of the comments that were started, DNF still has rules about not posting derogatory remarks in anybody;s sales thread. I think that these comments would make for a good discussion, hence that is why I split the thread and moved the relative comments to the "Domain Reselling" section.

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I will offer you -$30,000 for the Lamborghini domain names; that's right, YOU pay ME to compensate for the trademark liability.

 

[britishangel]

I'm sorry but if you have something derogatory to say please PM instead of crapping all over my thread. If you don't want the domains fine.

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

I am not crapping on anybody.

I am just getting tired of cybersquatting, because it makes my life miserable. It brings the heat down on small entities.

And it does no favor to your fellow community members who don't deserve to pay $30, $50, or $100 --so they can be sued and risk losing their homes and life savings.

Selling famous registered distinctive trademarks should be against the TOS of DNF. If it isn't, DNF management should look at this matter ASAP, to protect their own backsides if for no other reason. If trading in those names isn't against the TOS here, I wouldn't be surprised to see liability attached to harboring a den of thieves where people freely break the law.

 

[britishangel]

I don't appreciate being called a thief and for your knowledge the site was used for nothing more than a redirect page to Lamborghini's own website. It was nothing more than a showcase of their cars and the pictures used were done so with permission of the owners of lamborghini.com. I have no intention of breaking any rules and made sure to work things out with the company first to make sure i wasn't stepping on anyones toes. As long as the site was used to redirect to theirs they had no problem with it. Now as far as crapping on my thread calling me a thief constitutes doing so. Please take your personal attacks elsewhere.

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

I don't appreciate being called a thief and for your knowledge the site was used for nothing more than a redirect page to Lamborghini's own website. It was nothing more than a showcase of their cars and the pictures used were done so with permission of the owners of lamborghini.com. I have no intention of breaking any rules and made sure to work things out with the company first to make sure i wasn't stepping on anyones toes. As long as the site was used to redirect to theirs they had no problem with it.

YOU HAVE A TRANSFERRABLE LICENSE FROM LAMBORGHINI THAT COMES ALONG WITH THE DOMAIN? MY DEAR, WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO!

Now as far as crapping on my thread calling me a thief constitutes doing so. Please take your personal attacks elsewhere.

IF THE SHOE FITS...

YOU SHOULD RESEARCH THE LEGALITY OF SELLING DOMAINS WHICH CONTAIN FAMOUS DISTINCTIVE REGISTERED TRADEMARKS. HECK, YOU CAN EVEN DO IT HERE ON THIS WEBSITE IN THE LEGAL FORUM! ASK ONE OF THE LAWYERS THERE..

 

[tassos]

http://dnforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27142

 

[moxsum]

DotComCowboy, britishangel has the right to sell any domain name he wants. If someone chooses to buy it, then that is there decision and britishangel can not and should not be held responsible for there problems. If you do not want to buy his domain names, and or dont think any one else should, that does not give you the right to destroy his thread. Please try to be less confrontational with your posts, and please mind your own business.

 

[britishangel]

Thanks guys, I have requested that this thread be terminated because there is absolutely no point in carrying on a sales thread that has been torn apart with derogatory comments.

P.S. I'm a she mox

 

[NamePopper.com]

Originally posted by britishangel

P.S. I'm a she mox

What's a "she mox"? Is that anything like a "she devil"?

LOL :laugh:

I'm sorry. It was just sitting there calling me. Good luck BA!

 

[Steen]

Originally posted by NamePopper.com


"she devil"

no i am not a she devil

About the arguement, I cant keep my mouth shut... its driving me crazy.

Mox, you cannot sell whatever you want... but if you think so,

Would you like some cocaine and an illegal firearm?

I will give volume discounts...

 

[britishangel]

No i'm not a she-devil and Namepop can you close this thread this is getting ridiculous and out of hand, i thought this was a sales forum but apparently not anymore

P.S. namepop i missed ya hon

 

[Steen]

I didnt think PoP is an mod anymore.. or is he?

 

[britishangel]

<not sure i was gone for a while but he's still my buddy :razz:

 

[NamePopper.com]

Originally posted by britishangel

Namepop can you close this thread

BA - I retired and I'm no longer working here - so I have no powers of authority anymore. I'm sorry this thread took a wrong turn. I know you didn't mean any harm. As for Cowboy - he should have really contacted you - and the current staff in private if he was really that concerned about the names. People sell names here all the time that could be 'perceived' as possibly infringing on a trademark - but it's not really proper to call someone out like this in a sales thread - without at least giving the other person the benefit of the doubt - or contacting them in private.

I'm not saying he is right or wrong about the names - only that he should have handled the situation with a bit more courtesy. After he thinks about it - I'm sure he will probably agree.

I hope everybody can get over it and move on. I hate when this stuff happens.

 

[Beachie]

I suggest anyone who makes negative comments in sales threads be banned. As you aren't a lawyer acting for Lamborghini, your opinion is just that - your opinion.

Some of us are sick of seeing sale posts ruined. There are a number of domains listed that you have subsequently sabotaged, so perhaps you should compensate the seller, as you've breached the rules of the forum?

If you have a problem with the items being sold, PM the seller or notify the Moderators if necessary, keep your opinion out of the thread.

 

[Steen]

mine too (i hope), just saying, I didnt think he could fulfill your request.

 

[Steen]

Originally posted by NamePopper.com


BA - I retired and I'm no longer working here - so I have no powers of authority anymore. I'm sorry this thread took a wrong turn. I know you didn't mean any harm. As for Cowboy - he should have really contacted you - and the current staff in private if he was really that concerned about the names. People sell names here all the time that could be 'perceived' as possibly infringing on a trademark - but it's not really proper to call someone out like this in a sales thread - without at least giving the other person the benefit of the doubt - or contacting them in private.

I'm not saying he is right or wrong about the names - only that he should have handled the situation with a bit more courtesy. After he thinks about it - I'm sure he will probably agree.

I hope everybody can get over it - and move on. I hate when this stuff happens.

Very nice post popper,

I am sorry for my posts... But i still back them up..

 

[Whois-Search]

There are no DNF rules for trademark names but their are rules about being nice to people - NamePopper thanks.

Now how about this ..........

My friend has a Lamborghini with his domain name on the number plate :

http://www.whois-search.com/kamal/

 

[Bob]

Originally posted by DotComCowboy
Selling famous registered distinctive trademarks should be against the TOS of DNF. If it isn't, DNF management should look at this matter ASAP, to protect their own backsides if for no other reason. If trading in those names isn't against the TOS here, I wouldn't be surprised to see liability attached to harboring a den of thieves where people freely break the law.

Enforcing such a rule would be IMPOSSIBLE. There is absolutely no way to know every trademark out there. Furhter, just because a name is TMed, does not mean you do not have a legitimate interest in the name.

Examples:

Jolt.com - This is a famous trademark, however it is a generic dictionary word. There was a WIPO case on this name in which Ari Goldberger successfully defended the name.

Ponds.net - I own this name. There is a huge facial cream company called "ponds". I love ice hockey and play a lot of pondhockey. I have a legitimate interest in the name, and Ponds, Inc, does NOT have exclusive rights to the name.

Yes, there are the obvious anf flagrant TM violations. There are a lot of lesser known TMs as well. I have another name that I am trying to sell. A potential buyer looked it up and said there was a TM on it. I have never heard of he company. I would doubt anybody else here has heard of it either. Does that make me a theif?

If we were to attempt to enforce this rule, who would take the time to do a TM check on the hundreds of names that are posted for sale daily? Simply put, it is impossible. This is the EXACT same reason why registrars MUST display the URDP on their site. Are registrars at fault (and hence THEIVES) for allowing these names to be registered?

While I understand your point, it would be impossible to enforce. Unfortunately, the onus is on the buyer to to research the possible TM consequences of any name.

I am going to split this thread so British Angel can get back to her sale without having anybody CRAP. We DO have a policy against derogatory remarks in any sales thread. We **CAN** enforce that.

-Bob

 

[GiantDomains]

Originally posted by britishangel
Namepop can you close this thread

Popper, use that one-time mod pass Greg gave you .. or are you saving it