For Sale How to beat Enom.com, Pool.com etc.?

[screamfine]

Hi there!

I just wonder if there isn't any way to beat the big players like enom.com and pool.com in catching dropped domains? What is their method? How does it work? And how fast are they in catching dropped domains?

I think the main problem is to instantly register a domain once it's dropped, right? You need some kind of API for that?!

 

[stuff]

Hi there!

I just wonder if there isn't any way to beat the big players like enom.com and pool.com in catching dropped domains? What is their method? How does it work? And how fast are they in catching dropped domains?

I think the main problem is to instantly register a domain once it's dropped, right? You need some kind of API for that?!

You can`t beat them!!!

 

[screamfine]

There must be a solution ...

 

[Bender]

no, there isn't.
The have several other registrars catching for them.
To have a (small) chance you must have your own registrar.
you can read here an article.

 

[stuff]

To have a (small) chance you must have your own registrar.

I think You still don´t have a change with only one registrar!
Some time ago name.com owner tryed with 3 registrars, they did not get anything good.

 

[Rarethings]

good article lol.

 

[Anthony Ng]

There must be a solution ...

Of course there is. With enough resources (a.k.a. money), you can even beat Microsoft.

 

[nathanjacobs]

I hate that everyone has just given up, although it does seem hopeless. I'm at a breaking point myself - trying to carve out my niche in this business and not succeeding as of yet but i'm not going to give up.

I read an article a while back about the guy who came in and revamped club drop's software, and made them much more effective at catching dropping names. Although he had many registrar connections to work with, his ideas did make a difference and I sure hope that could be the case on the level of the "amateur" snapper.

It's true the big dogs get all of the medium-high levels but I dare to say that there are still some low level ones that could be sold for double/triple regfee that you could get by being savvier than the average domain snapper who sits with their windows based enom grabber running.

Don't give up, but admit that the best names and most if not all of the mid level names are unattainable. Try for the lower level names, or names which have no linkpop or ovt w/ext but have value on name alone.

Nathan

 

[actnow]

As nameslave pointed out. The only way you can beat the 3 big catchers is
with a lot of money and software skills.

Besides the big 3, you have the other group of registrars that catch all of the names
that the premier catchers don't grab.

Bottom line, you need money to buy a number of registrar credentials and someone
smarter than the programmers at the other registrars.

Furthermore, the whole drop game will change next month when CLS starts.

 

[katherine]

Stuff I do not agree. I have caught a few names with backorders on them, using home-made scripts & API. Stroke of luck I admit. But because the dropcatchers are monitoring a large number of names at the same time they do not get everything. There is still room for competition.
If you really want to get a name I would advise to place orders with at least 3 dropcatchers.
As for doing the backordering yourself it boils down to money and resources. As said above the industry is changing and the drop market is evolving.
Maybe companies like Pool and Snapnames will no longer exist in the near future.

 

[nathanjacobs]

Just noticed something that someone said above about name.com owner trying with three registrars and not getting any, could it be possible that the software he was using wasn't that great?

If you watch how most programmers work, and really get to know what knowledge level most are on you'll find that they aren't really that good at what they do. Any programmer can make a person who doesen't know how to program think they have the next best tool out there but until you are a programmer yourself how do you really know? Ive seen some pretty crappy code in my time.

For instance, I am a programmer but i'm busy as heck so I hire people out to do a lot of stuff for me. I had a guy write a web based overture checker which ended up doing around 300-400/minute. I thought it was great.

I sat down one weekend when I was bored and decided to write one from scratch myself, and low and behold mine uses less system resources and does 700-1000/minute or better.

You just never know what you're gonna get until you stop trusting in other people to do your work for you. What if someone else with the programming knowledge themself were to try it with 3 registrars, would the result be different? It just might.

Nathan

 

[actnow]

Just noticed something that someone said above about name.com owner trying with three registrars and not getting any, could it be possible that the software he was using wasn't that great?

It is not a case of Name's 3 credentials having crappy programmers.

It is a case of the big 3 affording the best.

 

[nathanjacobs]

Well sure they are going to be able to afford the most partners, etc but software is a big part of it too.

If you have a single threaded php app as a drop script running on 3 registrars worth of connections you aren't gonna pick up anything likely - but if you think it out and create a C++ or Perl multithreaded app then you're going to have a much better chance, not to mention little tweaks here and there to get the registrars to like your requests a bit better. It all depends on the knowledge of your programmer, club drop proved that when their new programmer entered. Same # of registrar partners, Craploads more snaps just cause of his software.

Nathan

 

[stuff]

Just noticed something that someone said above about name.com owner trying with three registrars and not getting any, could it be possible that the software he was using wasn't that great?
Nathan

The software guy was the same who made it for namewinner some time ago ( Owen).

Well sure they are going to be able to afford the most partners, etc but software is a big part of it too.

If you have a single threaded php app as a drop script running on 3 registrars worth of connections you aren't gonna pick up anything likely - but if you think it out and create a C++ or Perl multithreaded app then you're going to have a much better chance, not to mention little tweaks here and there to get the registrars to like your requests a bit better. It all depends on the knowledge of your programmer, club drop proved that when their new programmer entered. Same # of registrar partners, Craploads more snaps just cause of his software.

Nathan

You still wontget much, nothing big