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HomerJ

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It is mostly because newbies underestimate the difficulty of this business and they first reg domains, and after they see that they can't sell them, then they try to actually learn how to do it right.

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I have been listening, and learning, a ton since i've been here, and compare my latest regs with my very first regs, like light and dark. i owe thanks to many of you on this forum for dropping science like galileo dropped the orange! :lol:

iamhavebeenlistening.com :)
 

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I will say that I have seen what seems like the most trustworthy advice coming from all of you on this forum. However at the same time, I am one of those people who have asked several very stupid questions - and have repeatedly gotten ignored.

Sorry to hear that. You have to understand that while this is a domain community, alot of the members to whom you are posing the questions have probably answered them many times over already on this forum, so they/we are not ignoring you, jut search for it here and you will find what you are looking for.

I must say that I have definitely seen some really absurd registrations throughout the years. It will continue, but that is good for those of us who actually know what we are doing when acquiring domains. Of course, I always want to "cyberslap" the domainer who is selling some domains like the ones on the aforementioned site or on Ebay...but that what can you do?

Just let them reg what they want. When they finally realize that the domains they regged wil never sell nor get any traffic, maybe then they will learn. Alot of domain regging and speculation is pure common sense, and you know alot of people lack in that area.
 

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cyberslap.info, .biz and .mobi are free .. :cheesy:

Or for you .tv aficionados .. yes, grab it while you can
 

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I think the problem is more then just one thing, like not everyone buys domains to be a reseller. Most resellers see all domains as worthless, unless the have rank, traffic, and searches. Or they are already built into money makers, and most anything other then .coms ant worth it.

Others buy domains to build them into sites, and yet others that buy them to sell to end users. In that the value is not as high as the best domains, but people would buy them to use them, and they can make money off them that way.

And many people buy them for a mix of all these reason, another thing is good money domains are not easy to come by anymore. All the good ones are taken, and sell at very close to what they are worth. Now most that are dropping, are auction off and heavy bidding for any good ones. Buying at such high prices, is taking a chance so buying cheaper ones, thinking they can sell and make some money.

And if not build them and then sell them, and may be they will hit the jackpot at some point. Many then find it takes time and money, to build them and time to get them sold. Personally it would seem to me, that the money guys are taking a much bigger share these days. The big money guys keep changing the rules, many big name sites have seen big drops in ad money.

They had to make changes, to try and get the income back up. Also the drop auctions, got bigger money guys much more money. And when people find ways to make the money, they are not telling how they are doing it. And the market got many ripe off artist, in it as well so many people very trust.

I'm not saying people don't make money at all, but it become much more work and risk. And full of land mines to get past, if some one took Iamsomuchinlovewithoxoxox.biz and built it. And got it making good money and lots of traffic, with high rank they can also sell it for good money. And some people seeing making $100 x 100, just as good as selling one good .com for the same money.

I go throw drop list for hours at a time, and will agree most all are really junk worthless. And many I get, most people don't see much value unless they are built. And I'm sure it takes time to learn domaining, I'm always learning new stuff all the time. As it's a ever changing market, it hits home when you see some one on this forum. Buy a domain for 10k, and flip it for 125k it's about what you know and risk taking.

10k is not a small investment to most people, bad timing or not getting the right end users seeing it. Could man taking a lose after holding it for while, that happen to many as well already. And the market is getting harder and harder, with more and more people want to make money in it.
 

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but how many times have we told them use overture and vurr and other traffic sources to see what people are searching for and they just ignore it. while i have a few generic terms that dont get much traffic its only 1 percent of my portfolio. They make these terms 100 percent of their portfolios and ignore the very thing that would cause them to be a success. I am not in the drop business so I probably am extremely close to being a newbee, nor do i buy domains. I just reg them, so it is still possible to be a success if they just listen for 5 minutes. I just regged a 3 word dotcom that makes 1.50 a day my goal is to reg 100/200 of these names and am on the way. is it because they are shooting for a million instead of a slow build up.

Regarding traffic domains like the 3 word dot com example mentioned above...

I am neither an expert or a newbie, but sometimes I feel like one. Although I have had some modest success finding traffic names on the drop, this is easier because you have the list and you do the analysis. Anyway this has become harder as of late. However my record on hand regs is abysmal and it keeps me awake at night!!

My main knowledge gap is this:

What am I supposed to use as a starting point for traffic name research rather than just entering random keywords into the various overture tools? Or is my head actually in the sand and that is exactly what most people do? :S

I am hard working and don't expect successful domainers like Fatter to give away secrets but if only someone could point me in the direction of GO. ;)
 

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You look for words and stuff, that you think people would be searching for a lot. But just about every time I search OVT, all the highly search for ones is gone in most all .whatevers.
 

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hal I have no secrets and am not as successful as i should be if i put the time in, I was only reffering to people who reg hundreds of made up names and expect them to sell.
I pretty much use life experiences to reg names ie: my son went to commercial diving school, however most highschool students refer to it as un derwater we lding school
so i regged them. also i follow the news closely. IE they just found out chronic fatique syndrome was caused by a virus, so i regged chron ic fat igue virus and a few others
its hit and miss, i made a buck on them yesterday, after the news dies down its possible they will be worthless.
 
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