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More incompetence and lying at NameJet - who would have thunk :(

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When you insult the sellers and the platform we use to sell our assets, you bet you lilly ass I will be defensive of it. If you have any complaints of legal nature, you should address them via the proper channels, instead of posting generic drivel and making broad accusations.
 

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No. This is a sub-forum dedicated to drop catchers, and NameJet is the biggest drop catcher of them all, and it engages in a highly questionable practice that affects the entire marketplace. This is exactly the proper channel to voice concerns about it, and NameJet reps are welcome to stop by and chime in.

No one made any statements about you whatsoever, so get off your high horse or go give your "silly ass" a cold shower. We are all sellers here, some more ethical than others, obviously, but even if a fraction of buyers out there are getting ripped off or bid up, the entire industry hurts because people are not getting their money's worth and have less money to spend on good domains.
 

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So you are having some hard time getting domains at a price you can afford, and decided to ***** about it. Unless you were defrauded by NameJet, your drivel is just generic moaning. Again, if you want to make accusations you need to have proof, otherwise you are becoming rather libelous in your statements. And spare me the tirade about 'the entire industry', you sound like it's a charity club. It's everyone for themselves, like every other service of capitalism.

No. This is a sub-forum dedicated to drop catchers, and NameJet is the biggest drop catcher of them all, and it engages in a highly questionable practice that affects the entire marketplace. This is exactly the proper channel to voice concerns about it, and NameJet reps are welcome to stop by and chime in.

No one made any statements about you whatsoever, so get off your high horse or go give your "silly ass" a cold shower. We are all sellers here, some more ethical than others, obviously, but even if a fraction of buyers out there are getting ripped off or bid up, the entire industry hurts because people are not getting their money's worth and have less money to spend on good domains.
 

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So far all we've heard from you is immature attacks about who can use WHOIS or whose wallet is bigger. Most people are not here for a pissing contest--you stay out of their wallet, and they'll stay out of yours.

The issue stands. NameJet is lying about the meaning of "Pre-release," and lying to consumers is a no-no in this capitalist country.
 

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"Consumers" are those that have legitimate reasons to complain. Unless you were defrauded, you are just a barker seeking attention. Please tell us which domains you failed to acquire for $69 because they were in fact listed by domainers that use NameJet to make a healthy living.

So far all we've heard from you is immature attacks about who can use WHOIS or whose wallet is bigger. Most people are not here for a pissing contest--you stay out of their wallet, and they'll stay out of yours.

The issue stands. NameJet is lying about the meaning of "Pre-release," and lying to consumers is a no-no in this capitalist country.
 

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You either don't understand law, economics, or both. You can use Google if you need to look up terms like libel, consumer, etc, but when NameJet misrepresents a private auction by calling it "Pre-release" (which according to them is a domain that will go into pending delete if no one bids on it), they drum up demand for it artificially, and the auction ends up attracting a lot more bidders than a private auction would have, hence driving up the price for the winner. A consumer is at the minimum everyone who has participated in the auction, and it's a losing situation for everyone. But in the long run, it's a lose even for NameJet and the seller (that's the economics part). Transparency is always hard to digest, but trust the regulators on this one, it's good for ya. ;)
 

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Please change your name to Robin Hood. And yes, the auctions attract more bidders, as you said, that bid more money. As a seller, I love it. As a buyer, I am prudent with my purchases. It is you who doesn't understand how the game works. There is no such thing as an 'artificial demand', when the bids are legit. I understand your frustration, because the bottom line is that you want to buy domains on NameJet cheaply. The rest about 'consumers' is fluff.
 

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The bottom line is that auctions by private sellers should not be called "Pre-release," end of story. NameJet is dishonest about how they label their auctions.

It would be best if NameJet reps actually said something here, because honestly you are doing a terrible job at defending them.
 

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The bottom line is that auctions by private sellers should not be called "Pre-release," end of story. NameJet is dishonest about how they label their auctions.

It would be best if NameJet reps actually said something here, because honestly you are doing a terrible job at defending them.

Again, sorry to hear that your max bid of $69 was exceeded.
 

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Theo - thanks for providing some info.
Knocks - This is not done to intentionally mislead anyone. NJ wasn't designed to sell private names and we have modified a few areas to allow private sales. I am working to make it more transparent (we added the reserve icon for reserve names) and recognize that there are additional areas. Thank you for the feedback. We will let you know once a new auction type is created and/or the pre-release definition is expanded. We have a number of projects underway, all of which are targeted at bringing better inventory to NameJet and making the bidding experience easier. As more resources open up, we hope to make additional changes that allow us to handle more private inventory.
 

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NameJetGM, thanks for the prompt response. I usually don't use GoDaddy as an example, but this is one area they handle correctly. GD labels private auctions as "Private," and their search engine allows prospective buyers to include or exclude private sales. We look forward to seeing the improvements.
 

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Interesting thread.. Theo nails it with correct and appropriate replies and assessment.....
 
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