closed music-download.ws

Harmonia · Oct 16, 2004

How much does this domain worth? Thanks!

stoned · Oct 16, 2004

$20, Hypen= -5 and the .ws ;/

JoDomains · Oct 17, 2004

no value for the name itself. Good Luck.

Legend.name · Oct 17, 2004

$x, IMHO.

Gee · Oct 17, 2004

MissFlora said:
How much does this domain worth? Thanks!

reg fee

Harmonia · Oct 17, 2004

Anymore appraisals?

seeker · Oct 17, 2004

reg fee max.

007 · Oct 17, 2004

To be honest (and blunt), I wouldn't take it for free. It doesn't have a lot going for it. Sorry!

deter · Oct 17, 2004

http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/

a lot of people are searching for music downloads so it does have value.

007 · Oct 17, 2004

I take back what I said. It does have keywords in it. Good point deter.

seeker · Oct 18, 2004

just becaue it has great keywords, it doesnt necessary make it great.
it has a hyphen (which isnt that bad in .com/.net which are widely used).
However, slap a hyphen on a .ws, and it really becomes bad.

great-sex.ws is unregged. Excellent keywords.
Why dont you add that as well???

deter · Oct 18, 2004

seeker said:
just becaue it has great keywords, it doesnt necessary make it great.
it has a hyphen (which isnt that bad in .com/.net which are widely used).
However, slap a hyphen on a .ws, and it really becomes bad.

great-sex.ws is unregged. Excellent keywords.
Why dont you add that as well???

You are wrong - Search engines love Hyphens

and your "great sex" analogy is screwed.."great sex" only gets 6 thousand monthly searches.

Music Downloads get 6.6 Million monthly searches . Every month 6 million people are typing in the overture search engine the search phrase "music downloads"
Imagine the true total when you add google, yahoo and msn

The extension makes no difference at all to the search engine.

I'm glad I could help ; are you new to the domain business seeker ?

Ross1982 · Oct 18, 2004

The extension makes no difference at all to the search engine

Is that really true? I rarely see a .us or .biz or .ws at top of search engines etc or in many searches really.

Jon · Oct 18, 2004

Im with seeker on this one. Reg fee.

deter · Oct 18, 2004

Ross1982 said:
Is that really true? I rarely see a .us or .biz or .ws at top of search engines etc or in many searches really.

That is because you have 30 Million .com already registered. You flood any market and you'll mostly see what is flooding the market.

Searching Music downloads on Yahoo and Google in the top 40 produces a .US , .co.uk . .de , .Net ,.org , .edu a few hyphens and thats on a highly competitive term with over 10 million results on Google alone and 10 ads displayed on the right side.

Hotel reservations on Google show .Net ,.ws , .HU ,.RU ,.US , .MS , .IT .co.uk .de , .org and hyphens etc..

It is a myth that other extensions dont rank well. 100% myth

seeker · Oct 18, 2004

yeah, I am total newbie here
I got my first domain in 94

Your seo analogy is correct.
However, we are not talking about SEO here, but rather about the value of the domain, undeveloped, with a .ws extension.

Do a little searching on the forum, figure out who is who, learn about us a little.
And BTW, welcome to DNF.

deter · Oct 18, 2004

seeker said:
yeah, I am total newbie here
I got my first domain in 94

Your seo analogy is correct.
However, we are not talking about SEO here, but rather about the value of the domain, undeveloped, with a .ws extension.

Do a little searching on the forum, figure out who is who, learn about us a little.
And BTW, welcome to DNF.

I was here long before you . The value of the domain is tied in with the number of searchs for that particular word or phrase , the prices advertisers pay for particulars words and phrases. The idea that Music-Download.ws is worthless is nothing more than a vierw of bias towards .com and has no relation to the actual value of the domain.

seeker · Oct 18, 2004

deter said:
I was here long before you .

Thats good for you.
This isnt who has the longer **** thread, just an appraisal thread.
And while I respect your opinion, I disagree with it.
the tld of a domain is directly related to its value, although, of course, that isnt the only factor.

as a courtesy to the person that started this thread, I will not make this a personal exchange.
So, welcome to dnf once more, and I hope I can learn as much as you know one day!

arty:

deter · Oct 18, 2004

seeker , one last demonstration using your line of thinking

Using your "great-sex" lets add .com as the extension.

Great-Sex.com would be of more value than

Music-Download.Ws

because .com is somehow "stronger" than .WS

But the truth of the matter is

Music-Dowload.Ws is far stronger than Great-Sex.com because 6.6 Million people every month are searching for that exact phrase "Music-Download" compared to only 6,000 searches for Great-Sex.

The Market for Music Downloads is Huge ..

Next We need to see if anyone is actually willing to pay for for that market so we go to overture.com and typ in "music downloads" and "great sex" and check what the advertisers are paying for traffic from those markets.
http://overture.com

The top ten advertisers for "Music Downloads" are paying :
$1.00 to $2.51 per visitor!

The Top ten advertisors for "Great Sex" are paying 10 cents to 30 cents per visitor

So you see the Value is tied to the size of Market and how much advertisors are willing to pay under those phrases - not the extension.

seeker · Oct 18, 2004

deter,
I hope we (both of us) are nor intruding in someone elses thread, because I feel that at least I am. So, in advance I apologize to miss flora.
Now, back to your example of these 2 domains.
Your logic is flawless.
It makes complete sense, and to add to it, dont just use overture, but use wordtracker as well.
This makes music-download.ws appear to have greater value.
Here is were our difference is.
I am saying, although many many more people are searching for music downloads that great sex (which I came out with for the purpose of illustration, i could have easily found you a HIGHER OVT than music-downloads WS domain with a hyphen....), or any comparatibly lower OVT domain that ends with .com will get more TRAFFIC than a .ws domain.
That may change in the future, but right now, for a domain (repeat, an undeveloped domain, which is what we are appraising), the type ins for a .ws with hyphens are next to nothing. Miss flora can tell us better what type ins she gets, but I would bet it would be farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr smaller than great-sex.com
I am all for various tlds, I have bought, sold, regged all sorts of extensions, and if you bother to search my threads you will see how active I am in .info, .biz, and guess where else? yes, .ws

bottom line, your theory is superb. In practice it fails only when it comes to an undeveloped domain that has not beein seo'd, which are the majority of domains registered on the market today.
Where music-downloads.ws to be turned into a site, and properly SEO'd, then, yes, your theory is correct. Still, music-downloads.com would have an extra edge from pure type ins, even then... Search engines not only are NOT biased to tlds, but many prepher hyphens, as I have posted numerous times in the past here.

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