News: Highest price payed for IDN domain Name .com

[Mr. DeletedMr. Deleted is verified member.]

http://whois.sc/xn--xmq9cx10cfyf.com

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REAL ESTATE INC
Realty Agent Estates, inc

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[Anthony Ng]

Keep em coming!

I thought it was a sales thread, from the wording of it.

 

[NostraDomainus]

I think such a sale is the exception and not the norm, but will do well to further drive speculation toward IDN futures, fueling an aready hot market.

IDNs are what will truly make the Internet a global marketplace imo and allow access to markets the Internet, and more specifically, domaining, have yet to tap.

With the knowledge of the power of the Web and Domain Names spreading, I am sure record upon record will be set and broken for many years to come.

Viva IDN!

 

[Rubber DuckRubber Duck is verified member.]

It is only a record if the sale has been adjudicated by a third party. To date, even the value of the sale has not been quantified publicly, as far as I can assertain.

I find it entirely credible that this sale might have happened, but I am afraid until it is confirmed, it must be treated with suspicion.

As for IDN, they will assume their market value over time, and from a speculation point of view time is short, as good models for calculating potential worth are already available. For many of the these domains Overture Searches and Bids can be evaluated. For this potential traffic revenues can be estimated. It is unlikely that these models will be very far out. IE 7.0 general release must be imminent. I would guess 4 to 6 weeks. Once the traffic starts to pour in, few with good names will have a good reason to sell much below the anticipated value of those domains. I think prices are going to scale a cliff in the near future.

Rubber Duck

 

[denny007]

This sale might be possible as it gets some type-in traffic. I will throw some numbers as I got some Chinese IDNs, OVT without extension:
OVT 40 gets about 2 visitors/day
OVT 160 gets about 5 visitors a day
This domain might get about 50+ visitors/month, highly targeted -> gold mine for genuine real estate agent...

 

[Rubber DuckRubber Duck is verified member.]

This sale might be possible as it gets some type-in traffic. I will throw some numbers as I got some Chinese IDNs, OVT without extension:
OVT 40 gets about 2 visitors/day
OVT 160 gets about 5 visitors a day
This domain might get about 50+ visitors/month, highly targeted -> gold mine for genuine real estate agent...

Overture with extension is 31,981

http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/?mkt=tw

Max Overture Bid is $12.00

Minimum Bid is $3.00

http://uv.bidtool.overture.com/d/se...de=ynM4&mkt=tw&lang=en_US&Partner=userbidtool

Whatever they paid will seem cheap soon!

Rubber Duck

 

[denny007]

Overture with extension is 31,981

I am talking about US Overture. I am able compare Chinese IDNs on US OVT without extension versus traffic. There does not exists Chinese overture, at least afaik... I am NOT ABLE to compare TW OVT versus traffic as I got NO TW OVT domains. I hope I cleared it now totally.

 

[Rubber DuckRubber Duck is verified member.]

Overture with extension is 31,981

I am talking about US Overture. I am able compare Chinese IDNs on US OVT without extension versus traffic. There does not exists Chinese overture, at least afaik... I am NOT ABLE to compare TW OVT versus traffic as I got NO TW OVT domains. I hope I cleared it now totally.

US Overture will give you a good indication of how much this term is worth in the US market. The above figures will give you a good idea of how much it is worth in Taiwan. Looking at the figures I would guess probably more than $1K per month, but obviously not until their is full browser support and IDNs have largely supplanted ASCII domains, which may take several years.

Rubber Duck

 

[denny007]

US Overture will give you a good indication of how much this term is worth in the US market

My Chinese IDN with US OVT has 100% Chinese traffic...

 

[Rubber DuckRubber Duck is verified member.]

US Overture will give you a good indication of how much this term is worth in the US market

My Chinese IDN with US OVT has 100% Chinese traffic...

Well, I am not sure how you are determining the source of this traffic, but in any event it is irrelevant for Traditional Chinese terms as their traffic won't come from the PRC.

Rubber Duck

 

[denny007]

Well, I am not sure how you are determining the source of this traffic

Pure type-ins


in any event it is irrelevant for Traditional Chinese terms as their traffic won't come from the PRC.

Gosh, i DO KNOW that, I was just guessing possible monthly type-ins with an "aid"...

 

[Rubber DuckRubber Duck is verified member.]

Well, I am not sure how you are determining the source of this traffic

Pure type-ins


in any event it is irrelevant for Traditional Chinese terms as their traffic won't come from the PRC.

Gosh, i DO KNOW that, I was just guessing possible monthly type-ins with an "aid"...

Yes, I guess you did, but you don't seem to understand that a correlation of US Overture with Simplified Chinese Traffic is going to give you no clue whatsoever as to the potential earnings of Traditional Chinese Traffic. The level of browser support in the PRC is much higher than in Taiwan, but exact levels of each are unknown, so you have no basis whatsoever for correlation.

I somehow doubt also whether you have a accurate measure of PRC based traffic. This is very difficult, unless you have PRC based hosting. The type in on Namedrive, Sedo and others is nearly purely US Type-in.

Rubber Duck

 

[touchring]

US Overture will give you a good indication of how much this term is worth in the US market

My Chinese IDN with US OVT has 100% Chinese traffic...

Where did you park your chinese domains as many parking pages, like sedo, namedrive and even enom are blocked in China?

Yes, I guess you did, but you don't seem to understand that a correlation of US Overture with Simplified Chinese Traffic is going to give you no clue whatsoever as to the potential earnings of Traditional Chinese Traffic. The level of browser support in the PRC is much higher than in Taiwan, but exact levels of each are unknown, so you have no basis whatsoever for correlation.

I somehow doubt also whether you have a accurate measure of PRC based traffic. This is very difficult, unless you have PRC based hosting. The type in on Namedrive, Sedo and others is nearly purely US Type-in.

Rubber Duck

From what i've seen so far, US traffic is about 0.05% to 0.2% of native overture, e.g. a japanese name with a 100 US OVT will get about 50,000 to 200,000 JP OVT. I think the same applies to TW OVT.

 

[Rubber DuckRubber Duck is verified member.]

Where did you park your chinese domains as many parking pages, like sedo, namedrive and even enom are blocked in China?




From what i've seen so far, US traffic is about 0.05% to 0.2% of native overture, e.g. a japanese name with a 100 US OVT will get about 50,000 to 200,000 JP OVT. I think the same applies to TW OVT.

This may be true but since the domains value is never going to be based on US traffic, none of this means anything. The value of the domain will eventually derive primarily from the Taiwanese Market, with smaller contributions from Hong Kong and Malaysia. There will of course be some contribution from the expatriate communities around the world, but a Chinese in Los Angeles is not going to be looking for Real Estate in California by browsing in Chinese. He may very well Chat and Date in Chinese, but he would address the local Real Estate Market in English.

Rubber Duck

 

[jimmy]

Well, it's only 10 days to 1st April.

He He! :greenlaugh:

 

[taboo]

This may be true but since the domains value is never going to be based on US traffic, none of this means anything. The value of the domain will eventually derive primarily from the Taiwanese Market, with smaller contributions from Hong Kong and Malaysia.

This is true, but denny's strategy is completely logical in traffic gauging.

 

[Rubber DuckRubber Duck is verified member.]

This is true, but denny's strategy is completely logical in traffic gauging.

Perhaps, until you realise that outside the PRC most traffic is currently just speculators and spiders rather than end users and that traffic from PRC is currently invisible to most western parking services. Add to that the fact that direct navigation doesn't really exist at all in any meaningful sense in Asia outside the PRC, and frankly and attempt to predict traffic from such analyis are far less meaningful than making crude assumptions based purely on demographics, internet connections and economic status.

Rubber Duck