For Sale Ok lets try group deal... nice keyword names

[geekpipe]

daddy tryin to pay the bills. Take all 12 names for one price of $600 ($50 a name). I think this is a nice deal but if you dont and want to offer.. try me.

zoneboard.com
Online-Domain-Registration.com
onlywallpaper.com
domainshack.net
dvd-writer.net
mp3-forums.com
college-forum.com
webhostingtakl.com (typo name)
free-auto-quote.com
adkinsdiet.info (typo name)
astronomy-forum.com
hacker-forum.com

 

[geekpipe]

Ok maybe someone can be honest and tell me why $50 a name is too much? Even if you made a dummy page, and threw some ads on it.. and made $1 a day it would pay for itself quickly. Maybe I will do this if nobody else does and submit it to tons of se's...

Willing to hear comments and offers.

thanks kevin

 

[MerlinK]

kevin,

an honest analysation:

none of these names are commercial in nature, except maybe dvd-writer.net, however, it is hyphonated, and NOT a .com.

hyphenated names aren't selling these days, unless they have traffic.

webhostingtakl.com, inmy opinion, is your best name.

mp3-forums -- nobody really DISCUSSES MP3s, they just download them.

onlywallpaper.com is decent too -- but very niche, and there are many wallpaper sites already in existence.

.infos just really aren't worth much...

hyphonation kills the value of names, overall, especially .nets.

good luck, please let me know if you want me to remove this in the future.



-Merlin

 

[geekpipe]

i dont get that kind of thinking. lets take free-auto-quote.com. Say I was looking for a new car and wanted to get pricing for 4 models I was interested in. What would i type into a search engine? I would not type freeautoquote would I? I would most likely put in free auto quote.. 3 specific keywords. Now if you owned freeautoquote.com and I owned free-auto-quote.com... who's site would come up for a match first? I would say mine as it would hit on three specific keywords. there is no word called freeautoquote that a SE would match on.

You say hyphenated names arent selling and I ask why? they are great for se matches. you dont think a kid would type in college forum into a se?

opinions welcome

ty

 

[CrazyGuy]

geekpipe - I agree with you - I loooove hyphenated names for the creation of revenue-generating niche websites.

But the thing I've learned in my short time here @ DNF is that most guys here consider revenue to be what you get when parking a domain, and they value typein and typo traffic above all others (sorry to be general, I know there are exceptions ) - they hardly think about SEO at all.

I'd go so far as to say there is no SEO value in unhyphenated domainnames (unless they are one word) - or, how do we think the SEs decide what worldofart.com is about, or analbumcover.com?

However, when it comes to selling names, market value is what it's about. And this market undervalues hyphens.

Good luck!

 

[geekpipe]

so you are saying that the people here would like better to see collegeforum.com instead of college-forum.com?

 

[SirSpider]

so you are saying that the people here would like better to see collegeforum.com instead of college-forum.com?

That's about it. :emba:

Another example is "not a dot com" - My single most profitable site is a single-word city dot-to - will get a million visitors this year - because it is developed, SEOed and had been on line a long time with hundreds of inbound links. But, if I were to sell it as a "name only" without any of those links, I would probably get less than fifty bucks. A shame, but that's the way it is.

Most people who deal in dozens (or hundreds) of names each week, simply don't have the time to develop them into SEO-friendly sites.

However, a name is worth what someone will pay for it.Many names will just "catch someone's eye" and result in a nice sale. Can't explain it, but that does happen. Good luck with your sale.

 

[geekpipe]

so i guess since i am at the fork in the road i should make a basic site.. promote the hell out of it and sell or just leave as is and expect $25 a name

 

[alldig]

Any name can be developed. Which is why I disregard SEO in my valuations. Three things that give a domain inherent value are scarcity (ie: 3 letter .com), vanity, and type in traffic. Since there are so many alternatives (that could be registered) to the domains you listed and the fact they receive little type in traffic allows me to conclude that they have no intrinsic value to a reseller. That's the bottom line.

 

[JeeJee]

wellsaid ALLDIG.

your best chance is to develop it somehow and sell it at a better price

 

[goddess]

hyphens have a value undeveloped if the words are high paying key words

example

mesothelioma-lawyer in .com/.net/.us is a great hyphen

it has a combination of keywords that sponsors pay 40 to 99 bucks for

anyone could build a fast revenue stream based on such a hyphen domain

you put up a meso page with links to a few pages or a forum, you link them on your busier sites and overnight you have a pr5 or so mesothelioma site that will bring in high PPC revenue stream

now most in this forum aren't developers or PPC gurus, they are domain investors that look at domain values through a very limited set of parameters

that's all fine and dandy, but, a developer is the person who might want to look at hyphen keywords

that all being said, these domains don't offer a developer any high paying keywords, the only high paying keyword in the whole bunch is domain, shack kills it and the .net makes it less valuable

you need to search around for high paying keywords for PPC, then you could start registering tons of good hyphens in the .com for the top paying keywords

many are available

you do minor development, get a cheap link to a few pr5 sites and before you know it you have traffic to a web site where you are getting a few bucks to maybe 50 bucks per click

now if you said here's a pr5 site that made X dollars last month with PPC then some here might bite on the site

revenue is one parameter most here look at

short domains is another

keywords without tricks is another

now if you said the hyphen was mesothelioma-KEYWORD.com some here would be jumping

 

[geekpipe]

Ok understood to a point. The names I have listed to me seem to be quite common and could be developed into something good easily. I agree everything is able to be developed but some are better than others. I mean college-forum.com is quite easy to make into something no?

I guess as you say the bottom line is not the name but what kind of traffic it gets? Arent some names just worth money as themselves and not traffic?

Best move for me is to throw a simple site together.. make a banner and advertise it a bit.

Just for curiosity... how/where do you find the top say 1000 keywords click amounts.... like where do you find that mesothelioma is a top paying word? I have seen these paid db's offering but was looking for a free source. If thi sis the case why arent people reg mesothelioma-XXXX.com and putting a simple site on it ...drive some people to it and sell?

thanks

hyphens have a value undeveloped if the words are high paying key words

example

mesothelioma-lawyer in .com/.net/.us is a great hyphen

it has a combination of keywords that sponsors pay 40 to 99 bucks for

anyone could build a fast revenue stream based on such a hyphen domain

you put up a meso page with links to a few pages or a forum, you link them on your busier sites and overnight you have a pr5 or so mesothelioma site that will bring in high PPC revenue stream

now most in this forum aren't developers or PPC gurus, they are domain investors that look at domain values through a very limited set of parameters

that's all fine and dandy, but, a developer is the person who might want to look at hyphen keywords

that all being said, these domains don't offer a developer any high paying keywords, the only high paying keyword in the whole bunch is domain, shack kills it and the .net makes it less valuable

you need to search around for high paying keywords for PPC, then you could start registering tons of good hyphens in the .com for the top paying keywords

many are available

you do minor development, get a cheap link to a few pr5 sites and before you know it you have traffic to a web site where you are getting a few bucks to maybe 50 bucks per click

now if you said here's a pr5 site that made X dollars last month with PPC then some here might bite on the site

revenue is one parameter most here look at

short domains is another

keywords without tricks is another

now if you said the hyphen was mesothelioma-KEYWORD.com some here would be jumping

 

[gshafir]

college-forum.com is fairly easily to develop but you'd be losing a certain percentage of traffic to collegeforum.com non-hyphenated domains look better and on a project like this you wouldn't expect the majority of traffic to come from search engines. Why do you think it was available all the way until last month when you registered it?