Private registration without transferring domain registration?

[richrf]

Hi,

Is there a way to achieve private registration without going through a proxy service that requires domain registration transfer (e.g. Godaddy's Domain By Proxy)? Thanks for any advice.

Rich

 

[Dale Hubbard]

Your registrar will normally offer this as an individual item unlinked to any domain when you purchase it, then after that you can apply it to your domain. I think that's how it works, anyway. If you reg. a new domain, you can include privacy in the same cart.

 

[AlienGG]

If you buy private reg with new .com reg, the domain costs only $1.99

 

[richrf]

Hi,

Yes, Godaddy does offer Domain By Proxy, but in order to provide this service, Godaddy has the owner sign a proxy agreement that transfers the registration of the domain to the Proxy company, while at the same time the owner maintains the rights to sell, maintain the domain name. What I am looking for are ways to have privacy without transferring ownership. Thanks for any ideas.
Rich

 

[simon]

i dont think you need to transfer the name. just pay some $ and u will be all set

 

[richrf]

Hi Simon,

I am not sure how other registrars might work, but Godaddy's DBP definitely requires a transfer of ownership. That is how they are able to conform to ICANN"s requirements that the ownership has to be published (they publish the DBP info), while at the same time providing privacy to the original owner. The agreement still gives the owner all rights to the original owner, but ownership is definitely transferred by the agreement. The agreement is easily revoked and ownership can be re-established by the original owner. This may be O.K. for most situations, but I an interested in any alternatives that others may have to offer.

Thanks for your reply,

Rich

 

[Deleted member 5660]

You set up your own proxy just like you would any other business. You can use a lawyer, PO Box (although you can get the owner's address via FOIA), etc. People do this all the time when owning land, businesses, etc. When a dispute comes in it goes to your lawyer/contact, not some registrar proxy company.

There is no reason to go through a registrar. For some strange reason registrars have convinced domain owners (even very experienced ones) that if they want privacy/proxy service they must use their service. In fact most registrars set up a seperate company to do the proxy anyway. The problem is that when an inquiry/dispute comes in the registrar is in control and can decide to turn off privacy, charge fees, or whatever else they want to do. All you hear people saying is that it only costs $x.xx per year. The whole thing makes no sense to me. Here is an example of what you get for $1.99/year:

http://news.com.com/Private+domains+not+so+private/2100-1038_3-5833663.html

 

[FogFever]

With Network Solutions, you maintain ownership of the domain... but they make the registrant name public and hide all the other info: address, email, phone, etc.

You should also check into Moniker's privacy registration although I don't know if you transfer ownership.

 

[richrf]

Hi,

Thanks for the additional info and suggestions. I will look into them. Any other ideas would be appreciated.

Rich

 

[Theo]

There is no other way - except for putting bogus info in the WHOIS which would immediately violate the T&C's of ICANN.

For private registrations under your own control, register an Arizona corporation and rent a PO box. The AZ corp's contact info is undisclosable (except when required by law).

 

[GAMEFINEST]

There is no other way - except for putting bogus info in the WHOIS which would immediately violate the T&C's of ICANN.

For private registrations under your own control, register an Arizona corporation and rent a PO box. The AZ corp's contact info is undisclosable (except when required by law).

How do i get that info?

 

[Theo]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=FORM+AN+ARIZONA+CORPORATION&btnG=Google+Search

 

[richrf]

Hi,

I may be mistaken, but I did look into Network Solutions Private Registration, and it appears that what they do is that they use their own address and email info while still requiring domain owners to use their own names. Does this sound correct?

Thanks for the suggestion regarding setting up a corporation with a P.O. Box.

Regards,
Rich

 

[FogFever]

Hi Rich,

Yes, you are correct that with NetSol the registrant name is still public.

Checkout mydomain.com's privacy service. Here is a quote from their site:

'Unlike other private registration tools out there, you retain complete ownership of your domain. We'll spam filter all emails before forwarding them to you and will only forward registered or priority mail to your address.'

 

[Deleted member 5660]

Checkout mydomain.com's privacy service. Here is a quote from their site:

'Unlike other private registration tools out there, you retain complete ownership of your domain. We'll spam filter all emails before forwarding them to you and will only forward registered or priority mail to your address.'

Once the registrant name is changed on the whois the ownership changes (that is how ownership is defined) so it is unclear to me how it works. Spam filters have false alarms and regular mail won't get forwarded. They also probably mean certified mail because registered mail is for sending valuables.

 

[poulos]

just have a attorney form a LLC
that way you have shield,

 

[hum]

I still do not see the reason why you want to keep the domain with your present provider when they can't provide private registration. Maybe you are a customer for them for long time and another reason is that you fear that there may be problem with your hosting plan when you transfer the domain to somewhere.

As long as you have the total DNS control, you can host your domain anywhere you want (just 24-38 hours time lack due to propagation).

I am sorry if that was not your intension.

Best wishes,

HumDomains

 

[gooster]

Try http://www.dnoa.org. You can then use your DNOA details instead of your own, but still receive mail, etc.

 

[Deleted member 5660]

Try http://www.dnoa.org. You can then use your DNOA details instead of your own, but still receive mail, etc.

DNOA doesn't even list the names of the people involved in their "organization" on their web site. Any you want to turn over your domain ownership to them?!?