closed Snapped up a few names today....

[schnitzeldorf]

MoveBusiness.com

SpamWack.com

HazyWeb.com

StickRack.com

StockShocker.com

.... am I on the right track? I don't usually do much research on the names themselves, I like brandable, easy to remember names if they were heard once. Something that is easy on the tongue if you know what I mean.

Oh, and being that there is talk about Hillary Clinton possibly running for president (no comment)... I snapped up yet another name..

HillaryFacts.com

Opinions?

 

[BiggieBiggie is verified member.]

imo......should have left them un-snapped!

sorry, no reseller value.

 

[namewaiter]

movebusiness is the best ... commercial moving is big money, so if you find the right end user it could do well.

 

[Legend.name]

I prefer MoveBusiness.com among all. Good luck! k:

 

[schnitzeldorf]

thanks fellas... I'll keep trying

 

[Joe]

I don't usually do much research on the names themselves, I like brandable, easy to remember names if they were heard once. Something that is easy on the tongue if you know what I mean.

Not to burst your bubble, but your formula for picking names is about 4-5 years outdated. Picking brandable names that easily roll off the tongue, may have worked well in 1999, but in 2005 its all about TRAFFIC. If you're registering domain names for the purpose of generating revenue streams or for reselling, then you better start doing lots of research, and less registering.

Good luck.

-Joe

 

[schnitzeldorf]

Not to burst your bubble, but your formula for picking names is about 4-5 years outdated. Picking brandable names that easily roll off the tongue, may have worked well in 1999, but in 2005 its all about TRAFFIC. If you're registering domain names for the purpose of generating revenue streams or for reselling, then you better start doing lots of research, and less registering.

Good luck.

-Joe

I agree. Most of my names are .com names though and I'm fairly sure that I could probably double my money on most of them if nothing else. I am a little old fashioned.

I'll take a break now from buying... I now have over 100 names... I'll start selling and developing now! Thanks for the honest response!

 

[namewaiter]

Not to burst your bubble, but your formula for picking names is about 4-5 years outdated. Picking brandable names that easily roll off the tongue, may have worked well in 1999, but in 2005 its all about TRAFFIC. If you're registering domain names for the purpose of generating revenue streams or for reselling, then you better start doing lots of research, and less registering.

Good luck.

-Joe

i must say, i kinda disagree, i still prefer a short brandable name over a traffic name. my plan is to sit on the domain for aslong as it takes or potentially develop. most of the names listed here for sale in the traffic domain section are names like; football-unitedmanchester.co.uk, games-online-play.com or fftqw1.net - although they have traffic they are not something i can or want to build a brand around. to me the traffic is a plus not the other way around. my largest sales have strictly been brandable names - traffic was never brought up in negotiations. i guess if they had a lot of traffic i could have sited that to my advantage, but..

i guess it's just two different ways of domaining - hopefully both produce results.

 

[namestrands]

Would have to agree, they are more of parody value than of business value..

 

[Jack Gordon]

Unfortunately, 100 domains like MoveBusiness.com, SpamWack.com, HazyWeb.com, StickRack.com, StockShocker.com and HillaryFacts.com in your portfolio will never come close to returning the investment, much less doubling it, much less sustaining a viable business. I am afraid you are way off track. All you have to do is browse ebay or our sales forums to see all the comparable names that garner no interest whatsoever - at any price. While you don't necessarily have to have traffic to sell at a high price, you will need a considerably higher-caliber inventory than this to make any money.

 

[schnitzeldorf]

Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Getting more than what I've invested into the names I have is a no brainer so I disagree with you totally. Ebay, isn't a good example either because there isn't a lot of buyable names on Ebay. Most have prices way out of reach and unreasonable.

Coming clost to returning the investement??? At $9.99... I think you lost me there, because to me that's not an investment. I'm not making a living at it either so for me, this is fun and at $9.99, that's fun money.

Each of us are in this for a different reason and each of us like different names. I've seen your names on your website and your portfolio is less than impressive, but that's my opinion because I dont watch a lot or have a lot of interest in movies.

Thanks for your opinion anyways. In your world, you're right.

 

[Deleted member 2020]

.... am I on the right track?

Esperience will eventually show you if you are on the right track.

If you are flexible and learn from your successes (and failures) you should be able to find a niche or niches and be successful.

If you want to do it for fun rather than for making an income, then there are sure to be more "right tracks".

 

[Namebrander]

its all opinions till someone pays...I agree re: traffic being the main criteria but for me its closely followed by brandability.

personally I think movebusiness.com has great potential and I like stockshocker.com
both are worth much more than reg fee imo.

 

[DomainTurn.com]

Not to burst your bubble, but your formula for picking names is about 4-5 years outdated. Picking brandable names that easily roll off the tongue, may have worked well in 1999, but in 2005 its all about TRAFFIC. If you're registering domain names for the purpose of generating revenue streams or for reselling, then you better start doing lots of research, and less registering.

awesome reailty

 

[seeker]

here's my take.
ther are 2 type og buyers out there.
Domain speculators, and end users.
For domain speculators, traffic is 80% and brandability is 20% at most.
So, since we are mostly domaineers here, we tend to think in terms of traffic.
Now, for the average joe outside the domain business (just take a sample test on your friends), it is brandability 95% and traffic 5% (UNLESS, they already own an established presence and are looking into alternative extensions, and you happen to own one that gets traffic).
So, for end users, it is the name they are after. If they want the name because of an idea/concept, they wont care about traffic. Many, dont even know it actually exists as a bonus.
Outside of our business (i.e. to end users) the domains I have sold that made the most money, were NOT traffic names. That says a lot to me.
However, and here is the interesting part. To be able to play in this field, where you market based on brandability and not traffic, you need to look at owning at *least* 1000 domains before you start getting offers, because in the present, it is harder to sell, as your chances of owning the domain that fits with an end users 'must buy' price category increases with the amount of names you have.
As I said in the begining of this post, there are 2 types of buyers, and sometimes, we need to step out and think like end users *if* that is the market we want to be in.
The other market (domaineer/traffic) is just as lucrative, but is very different, and involves more developent, affiliates, PPC etc... and can bring steady income.

 

[schnitzeldorf]

here's my take.
ther are 2 type og buyers out there.
Domain speculators, and end users.
For domain speculators, traffic is 80% and brandability is 20% at most.
So, since we are mostly domaineers here, we tend to think in terms of traffic.
Now, for the average joe outside the domain business (just take a sample test on your friends), it is brandability 95% and traffic 5% (UNLESS, they already own an established presence and are looking into alternative extensions, and you happen to own one that gets traffic).
So, for end users, it is the name they are after. If they want the name because of an idea/concept, they wont care about traffic. Many, dont even know it actually exists as a bonus.
Outside of our business (i.e. to end users) the domains I have sold that made the most money, were NOT traffic names. That says a lot to me.
However, and here is the interesting part. To be able to play in this field, where you market based on brandability and not traffic, you need to look at owning at *least* 1000 domains before you start getting offers, because in the present, it is harder to sell, as your chances of owning the domain that fits with an end users 'must buy' price category increases with the amount of names you have.
As I said in the begining of this post, there are 2 types of buyers, and sometimes, we need to step out and think like end users *if* that is the market we want to be in.
The other market (domaineer/traffic) is just as lucrative, but is very different, and involves more developent, affiliates, PPC etc... and can bring steady income.

Well that makes sense. I like to think more like an end user I guess. I'm selling a name now on Ebay --->LoansByState.com
It's marketable in my opinion whether it has traffic or not, it's very marketable to a large number of businesses.

Thanks for all your comments. This is turning out to be a great thread with a number of opinions. Thanks eveyone!

 

[namestrands]

Bottom line you submitted your sites for us to give you an opinion, and as far as I can see thats exactly what we all did.. just because our opinion differs from your own, we can not be condemed for that.

Each of us value a domain on a different scale, and all we can offer is our honest opinion. Most of us have been in this business for some years, have earned lots and lost just as much at times. There are no real experts in this market as we are unable to predict the future or indeed "The Little Kid Effect" whereas some kid in his garage thinks up the next killer app.

What we do offer is experience, most of the team in here have learned some hard lessons with regards to the domain name market, they are passing on their experience to you.. accept it gracefully, you might not agree but you did ask for the advice. Please dont take it as a personal attack on you or your talent..

After all you could prove us all wrong and sell the domain for a killing...

I honestly wish you the best of luck, we are all in this together. We cant really compete as only one person can own a domain name, this makes it a challenge and fun..

Good luck with the auction, I may even stick in a bid myself... the domain would make a good Loan Business Directory.... :wink:

 

[schnitzeldorf]

Brand, I agree. Everyone has an opinion that's correct. We're all after that great name I'm sure and all live and learn from buying and selling these names.

Great thread... and the opinions are appreciated! ty

 

[namesys]

I tend to agree that there are 2 types of name seekers 1) traffic buyers and 2) the end users who are interested in brandability.

In Nov 04, a guy contacted me [out-of-the-blue] on one of my domains [neuderma.com ... meaning "new skin"]. I registered the domain because I'd done my research and knew the following info:

The name Neuderma [new skin] is of specific relevance to the booming market for skincare products and services. Important market information: By 2005, the skincare market segment is estimated to top $5.4 billion. The number of baby boomers ages 45 to 64 should increase nearly 30 percent between 2003 and 2008 – over the next ten years 78 million Baby Boomers will turn 50 years old – helping fuel sales of everything from meat and dairy substitutes to anti-aging products and services. The group has tremendous spending power — responsible for over $2 trillion in consumption — and owns 50 percent of all discretionary income.

When I invest, I do so because I know a name has resale value because of the specific market or because of the volume of other name sales in a specific broad category - like autos, kids, business - ie, broad, popular keyword categories.

That sale of neuderma.com turned out well. Took a bit of negotiation and an appraisal ... but I made $750 on a name that I'd owned less than a year and paid $6.95 for [on .com sale] at godaddy.

Good luck to you!
best,
peniel, namesys
www.enamewiz.net