closed Some thoughts about the appraisals given on this forum

[Jarmusch]

After hanging here for some days I've come to the conclusion that 95% of the appraisals given here are based on 'reseller' value, or to put it in layman's terms, for how much it should be sold to another domain name speculator just like you. I've also noticed that the majority of people that come here seeking appraisals really only want to know how much their domains are worth to end-users, or retail market. Because of that, many walk away disappointed after getting the typical 'reg fee' appraisal. A little advice for some of you: domain name speculators are a bunch of cheapskates, always wishing to grab great domains at reg fee cost and then selling them for thousands, but hey so are you. Always keep that in mind when you come here looking for appraisals, or better yet, don't come here at all, and put your domains for sale for the price you feel it's right.

Either that or everyone here should start giving their appraisals based on end-user value. :-D

 

[Capitalwebhost]

Bingo.

 

[Source]

And miss the free advertising. :cheeky:

I agree about the devious use of low-ball appraisals, but the reality is 99% of the names put up for appraisal do suck.

 

[Leading Names]

The fact of the matter is that end-user prices don’t really exist. An end user price is simply whatever the buyer is prepared to pay, which may be thousands for a crap name or pennies for a great name.

Appraisals are merely opinions, if you don’t agree with an appraisal just move on and forget it.

If a person takes the time and effort to value one of your domains the least you can do is respect their opinion. There’s a lot of talent on this board, if you choose to ignore their advice that’s your call.

- Rob

 

[Deleted member 2020]

I agree that it should be made clear whether the appraisals are reseller prices or end-user prices.

Especially newcomers will be expecting an end-user value most of the time, so if the value they are given comes with the "warning" that it is a reselller value, I think that would be good.

 

[domaindirk]

Agree. This is mainly a "reseller" forum, and any aps are reseller prices. Once you have a few good reseller appraisals under your belt, you have a good base to utilize for retail pricing.

 

[JuniperPark]

Yep, this is a reseller forum.

The end user forum, where you will find what users will pay, is called eBay.

 

[Namebrander]

I see both sides of this issue. I think dnf appriasals are useful - if not always accurate - to a large degree. But as we all know we're in an opinion based business.
All names are worth reg fee or less unless until they're sold (unless the parking revenue is good in the meantime).
Theres definitely lowballing going on but I generally reckon theres a lot of honest appraisals as well. I figure theres not too much wrong with bringing each other down to earth with realistic not surrealistic price expectations.
But I do totally agree re; the discrepancy between what a reseller would pay and what an end-user would. Sometimes as we all know a dn can have all the links in the world but if an end user doesnt like it he won't pay anything.
it's a funny but highly addictive business we're in.

 

[Legend.name]

Agree. This is mainly a "reseller" forum, and any aps are reseller prices. Once you have a few good reseller appraisals under your belt, you have a good base to utilize for retail pricing.

I have to agree with domaindirk! I give my two cents base on reseller value too!

 

[Jarmusch]

If a person takes the time and effort to value one of your domains the least you can do is respect their opinion. There’s a lot of talent on this board, if you choose to ignore their advice that’s your call.

I respect the opinions of people here. I just think that people should make it clear wether they're giving a reseller or end-user appraisal, especially to newcomers. There are some people in this board that do that, but they are very few. Then there are the 'developed' appraisals, if you develope the site it should be worth XXX, I sometimes don't know if those are reseller or end-user values, although I don't think many domain speculators are interested in buying developed sites, so it maybe the latter, who knows. Perhaps there should be a sticky warning newcomers that the majority of appraisals given here are based on reseller value.

This is a great place to learn about the value of domain names, what makes a great name and what it's potential can be. It's the best way to develop a 'feel' or 'nose' for spotting valuable domain names. I feel more capable of judging a domain's worth the more I come here each day. About the appraisals, I don't take them to the letter anymore, I mostly come here to see if people 'like' my latest domain purchase, if they find it appealing, good sounding or if it has any development potential. If I get good feedback I know I have something good on my hands, no matter how many $X's I'm told it's worth.

 

[cjj]

Another large problem is guessing what a domain name is worth 'developed'. In practice this is a ridiculous appraisal to give as developed gives such a broad scope.
Your website could be developed into a forum with 25 members, or into a multinational online shop making thousands a day. The only real way to appraise based on 'developed' surely is to say $x to $x,xxx,xxx depending on what you do!

That is why, in my opinion, it is only possible to give valuations for resellers and to an end user who would develop the name themselves.

 

[Nova]

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[DryHeat]

The fact of the matter is that end-user prices don’t really exist. An end user price is simply whatever the buyer is prepared to pay, which may be thousands for a crap name or pennies for a great name.
- Rob

IMO, thats an old line from times when the domain aftermarket didn't have enough of a database to rely upon. Yes, just like hitting a lotto, its possible to get thousands for a crap name....but thats an exception proving the rule (I'm not sure how likely it is to get a "great name" for "pennies" though). Even for new extensions, there's now enough of documented sales record that one can rather easily give a fair estimate of market valuation of a given domain, especially if the name is well known keyword(s)/term; on the other hand, if its a sort of made-up word combo/term and a reflection of the domainer's creative imagination, then its pretty much the reg fee or less in most cases.

 

[Ross1982]

You're not the only one that thinks like this but overall it's still a good thing the appraisals are here.