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For Sale The End Of Dropcatching As We Know It

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WLS is now set. The Snapnames backend is now set. Verisign, scorned, vilified, and tainted beyond belief as registry of .COM and .NET is now out to make fair due what it lost big time to this "anti-monopoly" religion and sentiment that has brought the world to the brink of economic collapse. As Nexus once said, the margins are now so wafer thin you can cut yourself on it.

How will you adapt as resellers to succeed? Do more of the same? Or mutate and jump into a new business model?

"In nature, animals that can't adapt to change become extinct"
 

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I will go extinct as far as domains reselling goes as will you. You don't want WLS, you just don't know it yet.
 
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Originally posted by Spider
I will go extinct as far as domains reselling goes as will you.

Not necessarily Spider, if you have the smarts to tackle the WLS.

btw.. I am not a domain reseller. Can't understand the trade well enough to make any money. :-(
 

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I hear the sky is falling. But, this time it is.

The asteroid is called WLS.

Signed,

Dino
 

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Originally posted by DNMole


Not necessarily Spider, if you have the smarts to tackle the WLS.

btw.. I am not a domain reseller. Can't understand the trade well enough to make any money. :-(
You're very vocal for someone who doesn't understand.
 

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wont we still be able to buy slots and get domians?
assuming they so drop, and assuming...etc...?
 

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Originally posted by seeker
wont we still be able to buy slots and get domians?
assuming they so drop, and assuming...etc...?

:huh: Think about it, the same people that buy the domains now for $30 G's plus are going to buy ALL the WLS slots ASA they become available, Good luck getting any GOOD Slots... They will be gone 5 Min after the opening OF the sales of WLS..
 

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Enom have started offering WLS pre-registrations and what do they do well if someone wants the same domain well surprise surprise the money grabbing *&^&tards are making people bid auction again no. If WLS turns registrars into bidding machines the hell i'm against WLS. I was totaly for WLS but if it turns into an auction system then nothing has changed apart the registrars win.

aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh
 

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Except the Registrar doesn't win either, Only Vrsg gets more out of this, everybody else Loses, or stays status quo.....
 

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All WLS will do is move more money into Verisigns bank acct.

The big boys will win just as many, if not more, of the names.

Add'ly, The major problem will be that each name that has a WLS against it
will be notified of that. Which immediately tells the present owner
that the name is worth something.

They will then think the name is worth a million dollars. Plus, a lot more
people will be contacting present owners to purchase the name.

About 4 months ago, I contacted someone who owned a name that
would expire in Sept. I offered to buy it. They said they would sell it for
$ 1.4 million dollars. (Give me a break!)

I think this is what will happen starting next year.
 

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Originally posted by actnow
All WLS will do is move more money into Verisigns bank acct.

The big boys will win just as many, if not more, of the names.

(Give me a break!)

I think this is what will happen starting next year.


Very WELL said..:-D
 
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Originally posted by actnow
They said they would sell it for $ 1.4 million dollars.

Did you ask them what currency they were referring to? :-D
 
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Domainers guide to management of expectations :

1. If you email registrants with a yahoo or hotmail account and say you are unemployed and want to start out your own webbiz to feed the kids, you will probably get it cheapest, that is if your email is not deleted as spam or an insult.

2. If you email registrants with an official email with your company name and act like an expert in domain names and valuation, you will probably pay more than (1)

3. If you call the registrant at his/her home, they will be so pissed with a stranger contacting them and intruding into their privacy like those annoying telemarketeers, you will probably pay US$1.4m for that name :-D
 

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DNMole,

I am pretty sure he meant US Dollars since he is in Calif. and I am
in Maryland.

I did not try calling him after getting his offer to sell his "two word" domain.

I used my usual email address. Maybe, he thought I was Comcast?

I know a couple guys like to use Yahoo and Hotmail addresses. But, I
am very cautious of offers from free services.
 

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so basically, there is no hope for us?
 
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Originally posted by seeker
so basically, there is no hope for us?

I wouldn't say that, seek.

Since pool.com came into the picture with their new business model, it had already changed a lot of things. The auction model now makes prices closer and closer to end-user rates, especially with Pool's recent announcement of its changes to the auction - last man with the most money left standing wins.

Yes, the game gets tougher every month as dropcatching becomes something every man and his dog indulges in, unlike the past years where "insiders" had a field day.

And yes, the big players will attempt to secure thousands of slots to roll. But this isn't new by any measure, even on new namespace - I recall that when the .biz zone files were studied after its launch, BD had close to 5,000 .biz names or something spread across 2 company entities. And that's for an extension that not many serious .com speculators had any high hopes on.

Acquiring WLS slots NOW is not a rocket science strategy. It just requires a lot of research on the potential/chance that specific names WILL drop months before it even smells the deleteddomains.com radar screens.

Then grab them straight away like a dog on heat.

Right now, the best thing you can do is to start locking down on NRR for whatever is left. eNom you can wait and snipe at the end if the cost is reasonable since its an auction model. I did my locking in the first 2 hrs NRR launched 2 months ago, and I'm just a micro player.

You have 2 choices - (1) continue to moan that the end is neigh or (2) use the WLS as a great opportunity to finally outfox (not outpower) the big players. Speed and lots of homework is critical.
 

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Let's do a little math.........

Today, BuyDomains pays 15,000 for ONE domain.
After WLS, that same 15,000 will buy 385 Domains!
Multiply that by 1000 or 10,000, and POOF! There go ALL the domains with any value! Game OVER!

They will buy HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of the WLS subscriptions, leaving you and I to lick up the little crumbs that Ultsearch, Buydomains, and the big money players have zero interest in.

Think about it. If you had hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy WLS subscriptions with, what would you do?? Answer- the very same thing!

Goodbye competition, hello monopoly! And BIG cha-ching for Verisign!
 

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Let's do a little math.........

Today, BuyDomains pays 15,000 for ONE domain.

So they were going to outbid anyone for the $15,000 on the ONE domain name that actually dropped. Meaning, when a name dropped, the "big players" ;-) will pay whatever to get it, if they want it bad enough.


According to your depiction, the game was already over.
The post game rules are just changing. IMHO.
 
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Originally posted by dictionaryof
Meaning, when a name dropped, the "big players" ;-) will pay whatever to get it, if they want it bad enough.

I humbly disagree.

BD, just like the normal joe blow reseller, wants names as cheaply as possible.

Looking at their rate of acquistion vs the rate of end user sales that BD used to list on their email updates, it would appear that probably 95%+ of drop acquired names never see the light of a sale beyond the cold-storage facilities.
 
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