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The Great Domain Name Boom Ahead (MUST READ for everyone)
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I do not know Frank...but...
It seems to me, sipping "rum and cokes" in the Caymen Islands and making 1-3 post a day on a blog is not "hyping".
I think its 99% passion and true belief.
I think only time to think about trying to "hype" something...is when your "guzzling rum and cokes" in a downtown bar in "anytown USA" and its 1:54 AM and they already made "last call"...and your broke and need some $$$ in the next 3 days or you will get kick out of your place. :lol:
Thats the time... you might "have" to think about "hyping" your domains or whatever... :lol:
Peace,
Dan
It seems to me, sipping "rum and cokes" in the Caymen Islands and making 1-3 post a day on a blog is not "hyping".
I think its 99% passion and true belief.
I think only time to think about trying to "hype" something...is when your "guzzling rum and cokes" in a downtown bar in "anytown USA" and its 1:54 AM and they already made "last call"...and your broke and need some $$$ in the next 3 days or you will get kick out of your place. :lol:
Thats the time... you might "have" to think about "hyping" your domains or whatever... :lol:
Peace,
Dan
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First off, I had to read Frank's blog entry twice to figure out what the hell he is talking about. Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't he be replacing "whois query" with "domain availability query", I always thought these were two starkly different actions. Perhaps he's referring to both?
If registering 10,000 "ballstownaxelrepair.com" type domains sounds like a good investment strategy to you, knock yourself out. If this blows over as hype, Frank will just tell you that you weren't being "cerebral" enough in your choices. The key thing to remember is, Frank didn't get rich off of domains by following another's lead, and I would strongly advise the salt grain approach to what he's promoting. He doesn't even attempt to hide an ulterior motive. Aside from fueling a market spike to add additional value to his own portfolio, he obviously has a financial stake in seeing this idea launch for better or worse. This is preciously why I don't trust or follow around these so called "Domain Masters" waiting for a bone to drop off their table. While you're busy picking the bone up off the floor, a sly hand is slipping into your coin sack.
If registering 10,000 "ballstownaxelrepair.com" type domains sounds like a good investment strategy to you, knock yourself out. If this blows over as hype, Frank will just tell you that you weren't being "cerebral" enough in your choices. The key thing to remember is, Frank didn't get rich off of domains by following another's lead, and I would strongly advise the salt grain approach to what he's promoting. He doesn't even attempt to hide an ulterior motive. Aside from fueling a market spike to add additional value to his own portfolio, he obviously has a financial stake in seeing this idea launch for better or worse. This is preciously why I don't trust or follow around these so called "Domain Masters" waiting for a bone to drop off their table. While you're busy picking the bone up off the floor, a sly hand is slipping into your coin sack.
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...and that's a grand slam.
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The bottom line is a sound investment strategy will never read like a scheme. Any respect I had for the guy just went out the window.
And good lord... Frank has more groupies then the Rolling Stones. "Hey Frank, I just registered thebatmobilebrokeitswheel.com, is that a good choice? It's just fine little Johnny, stay cerebral brother". Are they handing out a free samples of crack with each domain registration, or did someone spike the water?
And good lord... Frank has more groupies then the Rolling Stones. "Hey Frank, I just registered thebatmobilebrokeitswheel.com, is that a good choice? It's just fine little Johnny, stay cerebral brother". Are they handing out a free samples of crack with each domain registration, or did someone spike the water?
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lol....i guess u are right....i also had seemed to get suckered in at first...unitl i re-read, absorbed, and figured out what he was doing.....but it does seem to make a lil sense.....i mean its not that all these type of names are gone....many are still out there...and why werent they all scooped up yet?
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Ok, replace hype with "have passion for".
Frank has 350,000 reasons to have passion for the domain name market.
Frank's blog is like the Oprah book club.
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I'm out LOL
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Hundreds of millions of unregistered domains may eventually get picked up, that is true.
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Good one Fearless... :lol:
The big difference is Oprah's book club has millions of members all buying same book(s). I do not think...the few "domainers" that visit Franks site will ever be able to effect the domain availability pool to have any meaningful effect on the value of his domains. Besides, I am quite sure hes currently making enough revenue off his domain portfolio...that if he never sells or buys another domain the rest of his life...Frank, his kids and his kids kids will all be doing just fine.
Peace,
Dan
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excuse me but can someone explain the difference in a market sale and a "after" market sale? thanks
Lets make that a "regular" sale, a "market" sale, and a "after market" sale.
thanks
Lets make that a "regular" sale, a "market" sale, and a "after market" sale.
thanks
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Dan Warner's comments after his post yesterday:
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Giving out a taste of our market intelligence is one thing, having a constant flow of market intelligence leaked to the market is another.
I will be sharing a lot more of this data at the New York TRAFFIC conference - as well as other conferences ahead. I prefer releasing data with some structure and an overlay of my experience than to just drop data into the market. Statistics and data can be too easily distorted without context.
Indications are that most registrars will be live with the Domain Distribution Network before the end of the calendar year.
This new paradigm also gives most portfolio owners a major incentive to have their domains registered with an Instant Transfer Protocol registrar so they can use the Domain Distribution Network.
If you consider the new price hike with .COM domains, there will be a time just before the price change that economically it makes sense to register 25% - %50 of domain portfolios ahead of schedule.
How many portfolio owners will see this as a perfect time to change registrars and consolidate their portfolios? That said, for the record, we don't want everyone to transfer their domains to Fabulous.com. There are many other registrars that will be enabled for instant transfer soon. They are in a better position to assist you to enter your names into the system. There registration cost will also be as cheap as the $6.75 at Fabulous or even lower.
My Tip:
1. Get all your domains sorted out and figure out which ones you want to renew early to save the money on the .COM increase.
2. Pick one of the Domain Distribution Registrars that you want to work with and negotiate a good price.
3. Move as many domains as you can to their registrar and go live with global distribution and instant transfer.
The live registrars will be announced at TRAFFIC, but if you are in a rush you can talk to one of the registrars (that someone posted in the comments) which is already live.
Chances are that if your current registrar isn't in development - they will be soon. It really is only a matter of how long you want to wait.
Have fun harvesting domains, and remember that due to the instant transfer requirement domains need to be registered for 60 days before they can be sold.
Cheers,
Dan
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Posted by: Dan Warner | June 02, 2007 at 08:28 PM
Other extensions are able to be sold. Domain interest and stock is mostly .COM, .NET and .ORG so the initial implementation (which enables instant transfer) are just these.
There is also other criteria that the registrars have set to vet domains for quality assurance and their own brand protection. So don't expect that many typo, brand or trademark domains will be distributed. Almost all domains are capable of being listed but the system allows the registrars to filter out what they don't want to list by their own criteria. None of them have asked to have typo, trademark or brand names included as they pose large legal and customer service liabilities.
Remember that in any given market it requires that not only must an owner be willing to sell but that a buyer is willing to buy AND that an agent/reseller/registrar is willing to carry the stock.
Does Wal-Mart carry knock-off handbags?
All that said it is up to the reseller to decide what stock they want to carry.
Cheers,
Dan
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Thanks Frank for the comments. This isn't meant to be a commercial post. So I don't want to post anything that is promotional. I just wanted to tell you all how much fun we are having. The market will sort out the rest.
Cheers,
Dan
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GoDaddy is the best place to register right now. They will be able to fully support your sales needs in a couple weeks.
Transfered names can be sold immediately, new registrations take 60 days due to ICANN and Verisign rules.
They have a wholesale program for domainers that gives you the ability to buy at $6.74 per domain. If you talk to them they will probably waive the small signup fee that is there to discourage retail people.
I will also give you a word of caution. The paradigm is a reality BUT it still takes very experienced and skilled hands to register new domains profitably, and when someone types a domain in directly it is still the easiest conversion by far. Cross sales to domains with no direct interest have a much lower turnover.
Direct Interest: When consumers navigate directly to the domain name (direct navigation) or when they type the actual domain or domain phrase into a registrars new registration search box. Domains without this direct interest are difficult to sell today - tomorrow is something else.
I would also be careful about adding peoples names to commercial phrases as they tend to have trademark issues and the registrars don't want them as stock.
Cheers,
Dan
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Peace,
Dan
Quote(s):
Giving out a taste of our market intelligence is one thing, having a constant flow of market intelligence leaked to the market is another.
I will be sharing a lot more of this data at the New York TRAFFIC conference - as well as other conferences ahead. I prefer releasing data with some structure and an overlay of my experience than to just drop data into the market. Statistics and data can be too easily distorted without context.
Indications are that most registrars will be live with the Domain Distribution Network before the end of the calendar year.
This new paradigm also gives most portfolio owners a major incentive to have their domains registered with an Instant Transfer Protocol registrar so they can use the Domain Distribution Network.
If you consider the new price hike with .COM domains, there will be a time just before the price change that economically it makes sense to register 25% - %50 of domain portfolios ahead of schedule.
How many portfolio owners will see this as a perfect time to change registrars and consolidate their portfolios? That said, for the record, we don't want everyone to transfer their domains to Fabulous.com. There are many other registrars that will be enabled for instant transfer soon. They are in a better position to assist you to enter your names into the system. There registration cost will also be as cheap as the $6.75 at Fabulous or even lower.
My Tip:
1. Get all your domains sorted out and figure out which ones you want to renew early to save the money on the .COM increase.
2. Pick one of the Domain Distribution Registrars that you want to work with and negotiate a good price.
3. Move as many domains as you can to their registrar and go live with global distribution and instant transfer.
The live registrars will be announced at TRAFFIC, but if you are in a rush you can talk to one of the registrars (that someone posted in the comments) which is already live.
Chances are that if your current registrar isn't in development - they will be soon. It really is only a matter of how long you want to wait.
Have fun harvesting domains, and remember that due to the instant transfer requirement domains need to be registered for 60 days before they can be sold.
Cheers,
Dan
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Posted by: Dan Warner | June 02, 2007 at 08:28 PM
Other extensions are able to be sold. Domain interest and stock is mostly .COM, .NET and .ORG so the initial implementation (which enables instant transfer) are just these.
There is also other criteria that the registrars have set to vet domains for quality assurance and their own brand protection. So don't expect that many typo, brand or trademark domains will be distributed. Almost all domains are capable of being listed but the system allows the registrars to filter out what they don't want to list by their own criteria. None of them have asked to have typo, trademark or brand names included as they pose large legal and customer service liabilities.
Remember that in any given market it requires that not only must an owner be willing to sell but that a buyer is willing to buy AND that an agent/reseller/registrar is willing to carry the stock.
Does Wal-Mart carry knock-off handbags?
All that said it is up to the reseller to decide what stock they want to carry.
Cheers,
Dan
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Thanks Frank for the comments. This isn't meant to be a commercial post. So I don't want to post anything that is promotional. I just wanted to tell you all how much fun we are having. The market will sort out the rest.
Cheers,
Dan
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GoDaddy is the best place to register right now. They will be able to fully support your sales needs in a couple weeks.
Transfered names can be sold immediately, new registrations take 60 days due to ICANN and Verisign rules.
They have a wholesale program for domainers that gives you the ability to buy at $6.74 per domain. If you talk to them they will probably waive the small signup fee that is there to discourage retail people.
I will also give you a word of caution. The paradigm is a reality BUT it still takes very experienced and skilled hands to register new domains profitably, and when someone types a domain in directly it is still the easiest conversion by far. Cross sales to domains with no direct interest have a much lower turnover.
Direct Interest: When consumers navigate directly to the domain name (direct navigation) or when they type the actual domain or domain phrase into a registrars new registration search box. Domains without this direct interest are difficult to sell today - tomorrow is something else.
I would also be careful about adding peoples names to commercial phrases as they tend to have trademark issues and the registrars don't want them as stock.
Cheers,
Dan
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Peace,
Dan
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