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Damn, send me to jail too!
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SEND THEM TO JAIL
Only Losers Live in Jail
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lost focus for a while... 9mm also used [email protected] and was a mod at domainslot.com not too long ago before i alerted them of his behavior from NP I might be able to dig up more info if needed ..just PM me
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This is a great question, I am not sure if it has been answered already? If not I have found the following, from what I can see each post by Alexa the Top has had the same IP address, this holds true for 9mm as well. I am no expert in this field but I have found the following which of course could be and most likely is fake:
<< IP Removed >> = Sudbury Ontario Canada - 9mm
<< IP Removed >> = Indianapolis, Indiana - Alexa the Top
This is the site I use to look up Ip address information:
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
I have been browsing through this thread tonight and would like to say thank you all for the hard work you have put into this and bonding together during this time to help out another member that is out of a significant amount of money. Special thanks to JP who has clearly dedicated a lot of time and effort into this.
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I have asked xnxx a fw times now for the security code so I am not sure if he understands how Moniker's system works. I still have the 2 names, pinkpussies and streetsluts in an account waiting for tha code to push them to him...
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I want to thank everybody here at dnforum for dedicating so much of your time on helping me track down the criminals. This means a lot to me while i am going through a very difficult time in my life. I have an update on my end, i spoke with Ehsan Mapour yesterday over the phone and he has agreed to return the $5k to me on monday. Thanks once again
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Hang in there jayspot! You will get through this.
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Interesting Find on DigitalPoint.com's forums posted by ghost.d0wn, who is presumed to be 9MM. This was in reference to Unlimit PayPal help - add cc/bank
His comment on post #11 is ...
"They want me to add bank acc/credit card. I am underaged so I signed up with a random name."
ALSO - Can someone summarize what known Aliases, Screen Names, Physical Addresses and eMail Addresses 9MM has used so far?
I have access to several databases in the United States that may be of great help in gathering information in reference to this International Fraud.
I have started to track a couple of his so called aliases, but there are a few names I'm not sure who they belong to...
For example: Benefit Lawrence (who uses [email protected]), Alec Poitzsch and Alex Stenerson.
The DNForum community has really done a lot of hard work on this particular caper. It's nice to see a whole forum come together to rid the place of low-life domain wranglers.
CB
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His comment on post #11 is ...
"They want me to add bank acc/credit card. I am underaged so I signed up with a random name."
ALSO - Can someone summarize what known Aliases, Screen Names, Physical Addresses and eMail Addresses 9MM has used so far?
I have access to several databases in the United States that may be of great help in gathering information in reference to this International Fraud.
I have started to track a couple of his so called aliases, but there are a few names I'm not sure who they belong to...
For example: Benefit Lawrence (who uses [email protected]), Alec Poitzsch and Alex Stenerson.
The DNForum community has really done a lot of hard work on this particular caper. It's nice to see a whole forum come together to rid the place of low-life domain wranglers.
CB
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Yup it is my forum.
I also got many PM's when he signed up and volunteered to help me as a mod.
I got his account closed. When I saw this thread I have blocked his I.P. range too.
Its good news that no one is scammed over there though.
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Thats just the publicity department at work.
SEND THEM TO JAIL
Only Losers Live in Jail
This is what they really look like when you get there -
I bought one domain from 9MM - paid via godaddy gift certificate, found it odd but not exactly worrisome at the time. All the info I have via this transaction is already in the thread so I have nothing new to offer.
Irani is a common surname in India and other parts of the world.
Karma=the f***ing you get for your actions
Kismet=the fact that your brains deserted you when you did those actions
I've grown up on these words and will add something here - your life is a net result of your actions within this life... "as you sow, so shall you reap."
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A little late to the party .... but it took a while to read the whole novel.
A couple days ago 9mm sent me a friends request, which was kinda fishy since our past dealing ended poorly. This alerted me and a friend put me onto this thread.
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I bought 0h3.com from 9mm around end jan here
Payment was made using Interac email transfer - a Canadian method of using email to transfer money between bank accounts.
At the time the motive was that he needed money to out that weekend and any other method would be too slow. Its true, Interac is fast and guarenteed cash. Plus the offer was not unnattractive. 0H3.com lives at Godaddy. If it is a dirty domain please let me know, I have no desire to hold stolen names even if its small potatoes.
The email name I used to send payment to him was [email protected] as noted previously. The name given was Patrick Norman, therefore there is a bank account that exists belonging to this person for sure.
After lengthy chummy-like MSN chatting, 9mm explained that he was 16 and could not have a paypal account, which hindered his ability to make sales.
Also he claimed to have many Godad gift cards that were useless to him unless he could liquidate them.
I admittedly got caught up in the "helping a kid who is trying to make his way in the world" phenomena. Plus the offer of a $25 fee payable to me for helping him move money was attractive - Im helping him and getting a little something for time and effort, sounded fair at the time.
2 things happened after this. I agreed to help him liquidate his Godad gift cards by selling him a throwaway name via The dn name aftermarket. Terms on closing were that you had to wait 30 days for payment from Godad. Should have read the TOS closer ... 9mm wanted his money right away, which was odd and he got heated about it. After much arguing and accepting of insults, I called Godad to confirm that this was a done deal then proceeded to pay him the amount (~$140) then and there, without taking so called commission. This doesnt make me a saint, but my point is, after the way I was treated by this kid, I knew I wanted him far far away from me. 9mm = loose cannon.
At that point I wanted nothing more to do with him. Any MSN contact resulted in masses of insults, so I blocked him. BTW I have almost half a meg of chat logs, if this can assist I will gladly disclose, but only with surety of privacy to those that are working this thing.
Another thing he had discussed before becoming paranoid of my motives, was helping him accept paypal via the same method. I would then accept a fee and then move the money to him via Interac email transfer.
At this point things had completely broken down between us, but he still had a member (in good standing by my view) transfer money to me via paypal for a name. It is not my place to bring this 3rd party into this, unless requested to do so privately.
I told 9mm I wanted no part of it or him ever again , and refunded the members money, who was extremely grateful since he had not done business with me and was wary of the scheme.
In retrospect, it was a stupid idea. I felt I was helping a kid who was coming up and who can help but think to themselves "Wow if only I had started when I was 16, let me give this guy a hand"
I realise that my dealings with the kid are small potatoes. Perhaps some this information may help the others come forward, who have experienced similar.
This whole affair from the start of purchasing 0h3.com all through 9mm temp ban (which I thought would be a good lesson) all through this whole thread, has made me very very sad.
I got into domaining because I thought I had finally found something honorable, in an internet world of thiefs. I was happy to get away from Internet marketing and MLMs to trade in names, only to find that some people will use the softest touch to get at your heart - people like this should burn, and if I can contribute to their undoing in anyway, please call on me.
Best,
Mike
A couple days ago 9mm sent me a friends request, which was kinda fishy since our past dealing ended poorly. This alerted me and a friend put me onto this thread.
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I bought 0h3.com from 9mm around end jan here
Payment was made using Interac email transfer - a Canadian method of using email to transfer money between bank accounts.
At the time the motive was that he needed money to out that weekend and any other method would be too slow. Its true, Interac is fast and guarenteed cash. Plus the offer was not unnattractive. 0H3.com lives at Godaddy. If it is a dirty domain please let me know, I have no desire to hold stolen names even if its small potatoes.
The email name I used to send payment to him was [email protected] as noted previously. The name given was Patrick Norman, therefore there is a bank account that exists belonging to this person for sure.
After lengthy chummy-like MSN chatting, 9mm explained that he was 16 and could not have a paypal account, which hindered his ability to make sales.
Also he claimed to have many Godad gift cards that were useless to him unless he could liquidate them.
I admittedly got caught up in the "helping a kid who is trying to make his way in the world" phenomena. Plus the offer of a $25 fee payable to me for helping him move money was attractive - Im helping him and getting a little something for time and effort, sounded fair at the time.
2 things happened after this. I agreed to help him liquidate his Godad gift cards by selling him a throwaway name via The dn name aftermarket. Terms on closing were that you had to wait 30 days for payment from Godad. Should have read the TOS closer ... 9mm wanted his money right away, which was odd and he got heated about it. After much arguing and accepting of insults, I called Godad to confirm that this was a done deal then proceeded to pay him the amount (~$140) then and there, without taking so called commission. This doesnt make me a saint, but my point is, after the way I was treated by this kid, I knew I wanted him far far away from me. 9mm = loose cannon.
At that point I wanted nothing more to do with him. Any MSN contact resulted in masses of insults, so I blocked him. BTW I have almost half a meg of chat logs, if this can assist I will gladly disclose, but only with surety of privacy to those that are working this thing.
Another thing he had discussed before becoming paranoid of my motives, was helping him accept paypal via the same method. I would then accept a fee and then move the money to him via Interac email transfer.
At this point things had completely broken down between us, but he still had a member (in good standing by my view) transfer money to me via paypal for a name. It is not my place to bring this 3rd party into this, unless requested to do so privately.
I told 9mm I wanted no part of it or him ever again , and refunded the members money, who was extremely grateful since he had not done business with me and was wary of the scheme.
In retrospect, it was a stupid idea. I felt I was helping a kid who was coming up and who can help but think to themselves "Wow if only I had started when I was 16, let me give this guy a hand"
I realise that my dealings with the kid are small potatoes. Perhaps some this information may help the others come forward, who have experienced similar.
This whole affair from the start of purchasing 0h3.com all through 9mm temp ban (which I thought would be a good lesson) all through this whole thread, has made me very very sad.
I got into domaining because I thought I had finally found something honorable, in an internet world of thiefs. I was happy to get away from Internet marketing and MLMs to trade in names, only to find that some people will use the softest touch to get at your heart - people like this should burn, and if I can contribute to their undoing in anyway, please call on me.
Best,
Mike
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No it is (edited)
But was not able to write it here. But anyway he had no deals on it and he is already banned.
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Info contnues to pour in, I have to admit I cannot reply to all the PM's there have been alot. I have read them all and am greatful for everyones help, this is a great group of PI's.
I am currently following another lead to 9MM's identity and may call on everyone soon.
I am currently following another lead to 9MM's identity and may call on everyone soon.
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Wow man...how the hell did I miss this thread? There's too much beneath the surface here, we're just looking at the tip of the iceberg.
I've followed 9MM's posts ever since he's come here. Remember those blatantly "stolen" names being offered here a little while back (names owned by Sony, etc. - like 007.com)? 9MM was all over the place then too, said he'd been communicating with the scammer to "bring him to justice"
I find it very fishy that a 16 year old can form such elaborate fake identities, cover his traces so conveniently. Thats just too smart and criminal minded.
Like someone said, the internet is like the wild west. Easy money is a big lure, and scamming people is the most convenient way of going about this. No one appreciates a good hard day's work.
I remember a line from somewhere (I think it was Alan Moore's Watchmen), that shit happens when people want to spend hard money without a hard day's work.
**** this man...only makes me angry and sad.
I've followed 9MM's posts ever since he's come here. Remember those blatantly "stolen" names being offered here a little while back (names owned by Sony, etc. - like 007.com)? 9MM was all over the place then too, said he'd been communicating with the scammer to "bring him to justice"
I find it very fishy that a 16 year old can form such elaborate fake identities, cover his traces so conveniently. Thats just too smart and criminal minded.
Like someone said, the internet is like the wild west. Easy money is a big lure, and scamming people is the most convenient way of going about this. No one appreciates a good hard day's work.
I remember a line from somewhere (I think it was Alan Moore's Watchmen), that shit happens when people want to spend hard money without a hard day's work.
**** this man...only makes me angry and sad.
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