For Sale Why is this domain in Redemption Period?

[DomainGoon]

Domain Name: DNCHAT.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: DNS1.DOMAINNAMES.COM
Name Server: DNS2.DOMAINNAMES.COM
Name Server: DNS3.DOMAINNAMES.COM
Status: REDEMPTIONPERIOD
Updated Date: 12-feb-2003
Creation Date: 31-jan-2000
Expiration Date: 31-jan-2012

 

[DotDuDe]

check out snapnames for new explanation or try google for that keyword

 

[Who-Wiz]

DotDuDe, I don't think DomainGoon is unclear what "redemption" means, --more wondering why this *particular* domain is in redemption.

DomainGoon, I'm not sure other folks are as bothered by this phenomena. Same type of puzzler was mentioned on DomainState as well, and I think it was met by a "why are you looking at that so hard" quietness.

LINK:
http://www.domainstate.com/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=2593

I'll keep fishing for answers with ya, man...

W|Z

 

[rimidalv]

Or what about this one?

Domain Name: OBESE.NET
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: DNS1.DOMAINNAMES.COM
Name Server: DNS2.DOMAINNAMES.COM
Name Server: DNS3.DOMAINNAMES.COM
Status: REDEMPTIONPERIOD
Updated Date: 12-feb-2003
Creation Date: 25-jan-1999
Expiration Date: 25-jan-2012

In fact I'm finding quite a few domains that are allegedly soon-to-expire but apparently have a few years' life in them yet

 

[DomainGoon]

Originally posted by Who-Wiz
DotDuDe, I don't think DomainGoon is unclear what "redemption" means, --more wondering why this *particular* domain is in redemption.

DomainGoon, I'm not sure other folks are as bothered by this phenomena. Same type of puzzler was mentioned on DomainState as well, and I think it was met by a "why are you looking at that so hard" quietness.

LINK:
http://www.domainstate.com/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=2593

I'll keep fishing for answers with ya, man...

W|Z

Thanks for the reply. I looked at the thread on Domain State. No one really seem to know what's going on. It's one thing if the domain shows one more year, then it might be an auto-renewal that is going to be revoked. However, these domains show 9 years left on the registration.

If you find anything out, let us know!

 

[DropWizard.com]

NSI has been told to clean up it's DB. Any domain with false info can be cancelled. And they're doing it. Regardless of how long it's paid up for.

These probably fit into that profile.

 

[Manic]

There's a name that I was interested in that supposedly expired over a month ago, and is still in the "REDEMPTION PERIOD" also.

Is it possible to request a cancellation?

Or is it best to just wait for it to be "DELETED AND AVAILABLE AGAIN" ?

Cheers!

 

[Nexus]

If its in "REDEMPTION" its on its way out. Give it 2 months.
I'm putting together a fairly extensive description of all the stages for FreeWho.com's resource sections... going through a looooooonnnnggg development cycle, btw. Almost done.

Hey, can anyone here comment on this. It's still a bit raw. Critique any inaccuracies you see, wide-spread or localized. It'd be much appreciated.

Domain Status Code:
These codes are used to identify pending operations and restrictions of a particular domain name record in the domain registry. Theoretically each code determines whether a domain can be modified and whether it appears in its respective TLD zone file. The codes can be changed either by the registry and/or the sponsoring registrar depending on the agreed practices between the two parties. While more than one status can be assigned to each domain record, not all status settings are necessarily visible in the whois record of a domain name.

• ACTIVE: similar "OK". Generally set to this status at the time of registration, the domain name record can be modified by the registrar as well as be renewed. At this status, and assigned at least one name server, a domain name SHALL be included in the respective zone file for its TLD. This status is set by the registry.
• REGISTRY-LOCK: Set to this status, a domain name record cannot be modified or deleted by the sponsoring registrar. This status must be removed before any registrar updates are allowed, with the exception of renewal. At this status, the domain name record SHALL NOT be included in its respective zone file. This status is set by the registry.
• REGISTRY-HOLD: similar "HOLD" Set to this status, a domain name record cannot be modified or deleted by the sponsoring registrar. This status must be removed before any registrar updates are allowed, with the exception of renewal. At this status, the domain name record SHALL be included in its respective zone file. The registry may decide to set this status if a name record lacks the required amount of associated name servers. This status is set by the registry.
• LOCKED: Set to this status, a domain name record cannot be transferred, modified, or deleted. Domain names registered during Sunrise and Start-up ("Land Rush") Periods will be locked for a period at the time of registration (in accord with the registry policies). This status is set by the registry.
• REGISTRAR-HOLD: similar "CLIENTHOLD". Set to this status, a domain name record cannot be modified or deleted. At this status, the domain name record SHALL NOT be included in its respective zone file. This status is set by the sponsoring registrar.
• REGISTRAR-LOCK: similar "CLIENTLOCK". Set to this status, a domain name record cannot be modified or deleted. At this status, the domain name record SHALL be included in its respective zone file. This status is set by the sponsoring registrar. Note: Many registrars offer a "protect" feature that insulates domain name registrants from unintentional domain name transfers. Domain names "protected" in such a manner are generally set to this status, as it requires the involvement of the sponsoring registrar for changes to be made.
• REGISTRY-DELETE-NOTIFY: obselete. Replaced by REDEMPTIONPERIOD / PENDINGRESTORE / PENDINGDELETE. Set to this status, a domain name SHALL be included in its respective zone file on the condition that it has at least one assigned name server. Domain name records are set to this status if they have expired and have child name servers that are hosting other domains. If there are no child name servers, once set to this status, domain names are removed from the root zone files and are scheduled to be deleted in a batch process, after period of 5 calendar days. This status is only set by the registry. Note: Most sponsoring registrars do not allow domain names records to fall into this status. This status can be avoided if domain name records are deleted within a 5 day "grace period" after a new registration, registrar transfer, or explicit renewal. A 45 day "grace period" is allowed for domain names that have been "auto-renewed". Deleted inside the appropriate "grace period", domain names are IMMEDIATELY available for re-registration and registrars are not required to "pay" for unintentional or fraudulent new registrations (or renewals and transfers).
• REDEMPTIONPERIOD: Set to this status, a domain name record cannot be modified or purged; only restored. At this status, the domain name record SHALL NOT be included in its respective zone file. Set when a sponsoring registrar requests that a domain be deleted from the registry, and the name has been registered for more than 5 calendar days (if less time has transpired, deletion is immediate). This status is set by the registry.
• PENDINGRESTORE: Set to this status, a domain name record cannot be modified by the sponsoring registrar while the registrar is providing the registry with the required restoration documentation. If the documentation is not provided within 7 calendar days, the status reverts to REDEMPTIONPERIOD. If documentation is instead confirmed in time, the domain name status is set to ACTIVE. At this status, the domain name record SHALL be included in its respective zone file. This status is set by the registry.
• PENDINGDELETE: Set to this status, a domain name record cannot be modied or otherwise updated by the sponsoring registrar. At this status, the domain name record SHALL NOT be included in its respective zone file. After 5 calendar days, the domain name will be purged from the registry database. This status is set by the registry.
• PENDINGTRANSFER: Set to this status, a domain name cannot be renewed, deleted, or updated. This status is set when a transfer request has been received by the sponsoring registrar and completion of the request is pending. This status is set by the registry.

Thanks,
~ Nexus

 

[Nexus]

Oh, I noticed the REDEMPTIONPERIOD description is incomplete as it doesn't go into more detail about how long it may last. Feel free to comment on that as well. I think its 30 days.

~ Nexus

 

[rimidalv]

Originally posted by Nexus
If its in "REDEMPTION" its on its way out.

So does that mean that expiry dates given as 2005 or 2012 or whatever are necessarily incorrect and that if the whois record says REDEMPTIONPERIOD we can trust that the domain is in fact about to expire?

 

[Nexus]

Originally posted by rimidalv
So does that mean that expiry dates given as 2005 or 2012 or whatever are necessarily incorrect and that if the whois record says REDEMPTIONPERIOD we can trust that the domain is in fact about to expire?

Well, as I understand it, REDEMPTIONPERIOD is set by the registry (not the registrar), and is a condition that exists outside of the registrar's hands (they have requested the purge to occur). Once in this process, a domain can ONLY be "restored". For the next 30-45 days, be on the look out for the status changing to PENDINGRESTORE. If this happens, the registrar needs to provide the registry with evidence that the registrant is explicitly reclaiming his/her name by means of restoral. Otherwise, under this status, expect the name to go from here to PENDINGDELETE. After it hits PENDINGDELETE (which you will NOT necessarily *see*), it will dissappear from the zone file for 5 days, after which it will be made available for re-registration. In the descriptions I've written above, anytime it says "SHALL NOT", the domain record has been withheld from appearing in the zone file (and therefore to the "outside" world). if you have a snapback subscription on the name, you will get an e-mail update when the name has been removed from the zone files. Often this step is skipped when registrars delete a record under the right circumstances.

I believe the "records" while in PENDINGDELETE will only indicate an association with a particular registrar, with no name servers, expiration, or contact data visible. I also believe this status used to be REGISTRY-DELETE-NOTIFY, but I'm not sure that status exists anymore. A lot of what I'm talking about may well be highly specialized information that some parties would rather not comment on the particulars to in a public forum.

~ Nexus

 

[hyperlinktrader]

Well, as I understand it, REDEMPTIONPERIOD is set by the registry (not the registrar), and is a condition that exists outside of the registrar's hands (they have requested the purge to occur). Once in this process, a domain can ONLY be "restored". For the next 30-45 days, be on the look out for the status changing to PENDINGRESTORE. If this happens, the registrar needs to provide the registry with evidence that the registrant is explicitly reclaiming his/her name by means of restoral. Otherwise, under this status, expect the name to go from here to PENDINGDELETE. After it hits PENDINGDELETE (which you will NOT necessarily *see*), it will dissappear from the zone file for 5 days, after which it will be made available for re-registration. In the descriptions I've written above, anytime it says "SHALL NOT", the domain record has been withheld from appearing in the zone file (and therefore to the "outside" world). if you have a snapback subscription on the name, you will get an e-mail update when the name has been removed from the zone files. Often this step is skipped when registrars delete a record under the right circumstances.

I believe the "records" while in PENDINGDELETE will only indicate an association with a particular registrar, with no name servers, expiration, or contact data visible. I also believe this status used to be REGISTRY-DELETE-NOTIFY, but I'm not sure that status exists anymore. A lot of what I'm talking about may well be highly specialized information that some parties would rather not comment on the particulars to in a public forum.

~ Nexus

Hi

I think it is Network Solutions up to its old tricks
A domain name can only be registered for 10 years max at a time
Therefore a name that expired 2003 can be extended to 2012 ect
I think NSI holds on to them with out paying anything as long as they
want if they are any good. When some one takes out a snapback on
them it releases it.
So far they have not been forced delete them.
Send protests to federal trade commision "Newcase.gov I think I may be wrong
Let me know what you think

 

[Anthony Ng]

Welcome aboard, hyperlinktrader!

I'm not sure if you are aware that you are answering to a REALLY old thread, and things have changed quite a bit since like 23 months

 

[interlution]

Network Solutions has a 100 year registration, 10 years is not the max.

http://www.networksolutions-customerfeedback.com/pressreleases.html#20040324

.. and it's still cheaper to register elsewhere.