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What could be the value of wohnung(.)com?

- wohnung 34,500,000 google hits
- wohnung is the German word for apartment (US) / flat (GB)
- could serve German, Austrian and Swiss markets
- domain is 10 years old
- 300-500 type-ins /month (no projects so far)
- com domains have become very popular in Germany
- "com" pronounced in German means "come!" or "come on!". Nice wordplay

Thanks!
 

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German words with .com are for some reason not very high in demand, for cheapness reasons the trend in Germany is rather to register something like wohnung24.de or meine-neue-wohnung.de (my-new-apartment.de) rather than spending real money on a name, I have a lot of (100+) top German one word .coms and never even had an offer that was higher than $500, also this domain is singular, which hurts a litte IMO. Reseller value is mid to high $$$ IMO. There is still a huge difference between the German mentality and the American, to find a person that is actually willing to pay good money for a German .com are hard to come by. I wish the .com would even somehow compare to .de, but it doesnt in Germany, they are very much focused on .de
 

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lmao. top offer is $40k, lots of offers up to €26k
 

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wow..thats great....good for you..take the offer !!
I am not saying I doubt that you had offers that good,(although making an offer and paying is also different in mayn countries)..anyway... but offers for german .coms that are over 10k are hard to come by, and there are plenty of alternatives like I mentioned.

As you can see in recent sales, there are basically none over 10k. If you had a motivated end user like this, its not gonna happen often.
The problem with .com in Germany is that if you have the .com most of the traffic will go to the .de. So you are helping your biggest competitor out without them doing anything.

Another problem that I have come across in the past more than in any other country is that buyers most of the time are extremely cheap and sellers most of the time have a illusionary price expectation for mediocre domains (more than in other countries), which is another reason you dont see any high german word .com sales. My advice would be to contact the party that made the offer and see if you can work out a deal. The money you are losing by not reinvesting it into new domains outweighs by far what you are holding out for.
 

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@domainah:

This was the mentality till 2003/2004 - ever since the German domain market grew at significant rates.

There have been many huge .de sales this year (like poker.de scoring nearly a million USD or office.de catching around 50k). I might be a little biased on this issue as I´m German, but I consider .de the most valueable country code domain right now.

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Germans are hostile to speculation. They don't understand why they should give you XX,XXX or XXX,XXX euros for the rights to a domain that you acquired for 10 bucks/year.

Domain speculation for them is an organized racket, and its considered more unethical in Germany than in the US/UK.
 

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It has changed over the years. Many businesses now know that a good domain name is everything in the Internet. There have been a couple of considerable deals, and it's a growing business.

But true, domain sales in the USA work better due to culture.
 

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There have been many huge .de sales this year (like poker.de scoring nearly a million USD or office.de catching around 50k). I might be a little biased on this issue as I´m German, but I consider .de the most valueable country code domain right now.

.de has indeed matured.
With 11M domains registered .de is second after .com :lol:

But this is a phonetic .com domain, might not be the first choice for a business, e.g. they would probably try to acquire the corresponding .de first, unless they have many international customers.

If you have a few offers in that range you can probably ask for a little more before selling.
Although I agree $40k sounds very good for this name, congrat!

~MG
 

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with .com in Germany is that if you have the .com most of the traffic will go to the .de.

I disagree. The com-Domain can be nicely branded, there are a couple of examples. reise.com, a travel portal, advertise their slogan on tv: "und die naechste reise.com bestimmt" - nice and catchy word play.

IMO .com is definitely the most important tld.

GR
 

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@domainah:


There have been many huge .de sales this year (like poker.de scoring nearly a million USD or office.de catching around 50k). I might be a little biased on this issue as I´m German, but I consider .de the most valueable country code domain right now.
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Airboss

I was talking about German .coms NOT .de.. I was specifically saying that .com is hurting because everyone in Germany is using .de , .de are great, but .coms are not for Germany ...and if you promote .com domains in Germany people will still go to the .de...please read a little more careful what I am saying


I disagree. The com-Domain can be nicely branded, there are a couple of examples. reise.com, a travel portal, advertise their slogan on tv: "und die naechste reise.com bestimmt" - nice and catchy word play.

IMO .com is definitely the most important tld.

GR

I agree is the most important TLD, just not for Germany, and reise.com is one of the first companies that is trying the com version..and I am sure if you had the choice between wohnung.de and wohnung.com you would take wohnung.de and I think wohnung.de is worth low to mid XX.XXX, but not the .com IMO
 

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Things work a little different in Germany.

A good generic term like Wohnung would certainly be worth quite a bit as .de. I would say high xx.xxx to low xxx.xxx

.de is certainly King!!!
Very specially for generic terms, since a .com will get about no traffic at all.

The .com will only be worth a fraction of that, so I would feel extremely lucky with a low / mid xx.xxx offer for wohnung.com and only believe it when I hold the cash in my hands.
 

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it is a good domain, but like said before if it would be wohung.de would would get alot more money for it. $40,000 sounds like a good price.
 

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It´s all just a matter of price - sold a couple of names nobody saw any value in in the past. engl. sld + .de works as well as german sld + .com. As long the keyword ist good enough, you can generate some xxx Euros for it.

Sold methanhydrat.com and studentloan.de a couple of month ago in this range.
 
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