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Hi,
I noticed this when checking my yahoo email account.
They have domain names all $4.98/year even with only a one year registration.

They seem to have everything that godaddy.com does but a couple of dollars cheaper.

www.yahoo.com vs www.godaddy.com


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Use neither. If you only own one or two domains no problem...serious domainer??? Not the best place to be. Take a poll of the "big dogs" around the forum and ask what they use. The majority will say eNom, Moniker, Tucows, their own WWD, and maybe even a few Directi.
 
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There is a name I am eyeing that seems to be stuck at Yahoo with the previous owner seeming to have got web hosting also and then aborted. Has anyone ever bought a name stuck with the Yahoo registrar?
 

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eSology said:
Use neither. If you only own one or two domains no problem...serious domainer??? Not the best place to be. Take a poll of the "big dogs" around the forum and ask what they use. The majority will say eNom, Moniker, Tucows, their own WWD, and maybe even a few Directi.


I personally I have several thousand at Domainsite.com (excellent site, comparatively cheap even for small volumes and good support), but for IDNs I am taking a seriously look at DotEarth.com. Directi run a great service and very economical, but you can't even register IDN there, so that is a real no go area for me! Actually, not impressed with Enom and certainly not with Moniker or Tucows.

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Dave,

What don't you like about Moniker?

I have 14,000 domains there.

There are terrific, in my opinion.
 

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DaddyHalbucks said:
Dave,

What don't you like about Moniker?

I have 14,000 domains there.

There are terrific, in my opinion.

Main reason was having difficulty transferring domains out, which is an essential service for a trader. At domainsite.com, whether a transfer out or a push it is very easy.

My requirements are becoming quite specialised also. Not all domain registrars support IDN (including suprisingly Directi) or provide a proper reseller channel, which is something I want to do. I am looking to use the large amounts of traffic on our IDNs to promote new registrations and to cash in on the traffic using Google Adsense. Conventional parking for PPC does not really work with IDN as none of the content is properly targeted.

The prices at Moniker are not the cheapest and infact you can get a basic regsitration at domain site for a single domain for just about the same price as Moniker's best bulk price, which is more than adequate if you just want to change nameservers, but is also not clear whether that is included in Moniker's price.

A lot of people still use them but then a lot use Network Solutions and Go Daddy. These also would not be my choice. I guess ultimately, each domainer has slightly different priorities, but I think many do not think hard enough about the alternatives.

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I don't waste my time with IDNs. I am too focussed on US traffic and actually making money.

Google adsense is OK, but I wouldn't get to attached to it. Partnering with an unpredicatable company like Google is pretty risky in my opinion.

I have done a few pushes at Moniker. It is very easy. I forget whether I emailed support or not, but it was not a problem.
 

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DaddyHalbucks said:
I don't waste my time with IDNs. I am too focussed on US traffic and actually making money.

Google adsense is OK, but I wouldn't get to attached to it. Partnering with an unpredicatable company like Google is pretty risky in my opinion.

I have done a few pushes at Moniker. It is very easy. I forget whether I emailed support or not, but it was not a problem.

I believe that the commonly held perception that IDN are a waste of time stems mainly introverted nature of the US market. Most of the good English dot coms were acquired before the market has woken up to their value and the same will true of IDN. I can, however, understand why somebody like yourself who is well established in the conventional market might regard them as a distraction. Of course for many, the technical and cultural barriers appear insurmountable, but from my email correspondence and the traffic we are receiving, it does appear as though interest is growing.

What is important to understand is the shear size of these markets. China already has almost as many internet users as the US and that is growing very rapidly. The traffic on IDN domains similarly could grow a thousand fold over the next few years, wheras that on conventional domains may double or triple in the same time frame.

We believe that major language IDN domains (Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, Russian and Hindi) will eventually fetch about 10% of their dot com counterparts. This means that in the last year we have registered hundreds of domains that in several years time could be worth somewhere between $50K-100K each, possibly more. Some of these characters when pasted into Google throw up over a billion results. How many domains in your portfolio can do that?

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I don't have all the answers.

And the traffic stats curve is interesting. Certainly the foreign markets are growing.

The only question becomes the ease of monetization. Maybe Google or the others are buying foreign clicks now, but that well may dry up.

It just looks risky.

The $50-100K number you cite is the nail in the coffin. Very few top dotcoms even fetch for that. It sounds very very speculative, even for a cowboy like Your Daddy.

Will IDNs flourish, or will foreign markets always emulate the leader, migrate, and standardize with the United States and its default dotcom?

I do wish you well with it.
 

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dwrixon said:
I believe that the commonly held perception that IDN are a waste of time stems mainly introverted nature of the US market. Most of the good English dot coms were acquired before the market has woken up to their value and the same will true of IDN. I can, however, understand why somebody like yourself who is well established in the conventional market might regard them as a distraction. Of course for many, the technical and cultural barriers appear insurmountable, but from my email correspondence and the traffic we are receiving, it does appear as though interest is growing.

What is important to understand is the shear size of these markets. China already has almost as many internet users as the US and that is growing very rapidly. The traffic on IDN domains similarly could grow a thousand fold over the next few years, wheras that on conventional domains may double or triple in the same time frame.

We believe that major language IDN domains (Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, Russian and Hindi) will eventually fetch about 10% of their dot com counterparts. This means that in the last year we have registered hundreds of domains that in several years time could be worth somewhere between $50K-100K each, possibly more. Some of these characters when pasted into Google throw up over a billion results. How many domains in your portfolio can do that?

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Dave Wrixon


In the short-term monetization is a major problem, but in the longer-term the same market fundamentals will apply as in the US market. People with products or service to sell will pay for clicks to get traffic to their site. The markets are very immature and there is little infrastructure in place. But it is a question of extrapolating existing business models rather than reinventing the wheel, so it could all happen fairly quickly.

Our intention is to use the traffic ourselves, Google Adsense is really the icing on the cake. It is easy to knock Google, but that is where much of the PPC revenue actually comes from.

As for $50-100K level, I think that is reasonably realistic for domains that equate to some of the most valuable dot coms. Don't forget many of the most valuable never make it to the market. Many of ours correspond to IANA reserved single characters, for which it is impossible to estimate a value.

As for standardisation on dot com, I have to agree to the extent that our IDNs are all dot coms or dot nets.

Thanks for your comments. Reasoned evaluation is always appreciated.

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hehe.. we really got off topic here huh?!

obviously dave has done his research and is pretty confident that he will hit the jackpot... sooner or later... it's not a bad deal even if he sells 1/100 of his idn's for $xx,xxx and the other 99 for atleast reg fee.. when you close one big deal it more then makes up for the rest of the risky moves..... balances everything out... of course its hard for somebody like daddyhalbucks to get into the idn market... with all this speculation and theories it might be too much to handle.... ppl tend to focus on certain niches which they have enjoyed steady success and growth....... those who gamble big, win big... just gotta know what are the odds of this and that, blah blah..

godaddy is my second favorite registrar but i gotta hand it to enom.... they rock! i have 10k+ names spread out between both godaddy and enom.....

within the past few month's godaddy has assigned personal account executives to create an even stronger bond with it's customers... i think only people with large domain portfolio's with godaddy will have one..... anybody else get contacted by them? some perks are $6.95 for all new/renewals/transfers of domains and other stuff.. dont really remember, got the email a few months ago... also got a few phone calls from my personal account executive guy who keeps reminding me of the great benefits.... hehe... i will probably renew a few hundred domains with him next month, we'll see.

both godaddy and yahoo are pretty easy to navigate and overall user friendly... enom is best for domain resellers.... very simple and professional system they got

fabulous.com dropped their prices to $6.75 per month for wholesale account holders... i have regged some domains with them as well, they are one of the CHEAPEST this days i suppose....
 

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mike031 said:
hehe.. we really got off topic here huh?!

obviously dave has done his research and is pretty confident that he will hit the jackpot... sooner or later... it's not a bad deal even if he sells 1/100 of his idn's for $xx,xxx and the other 99 for atleast reg fee.. when you close one big deal it more then makes up for the rest of the risky moves..... balances everything out... of course its hard for somebody like daddyhalbucks to get into the idn market... with all this speculation and theories it might be too much to handle.... ppl tend to focus on certain niches which they have enjoyed steady success and growth....... those who gamble big, win big... just gotta know what are the odds of this and that, blah blah..

godaddy is my second favorite registrar but i gotta hand it to enom.... they rock! i have 10k+ names spread out between both godaddy and enom.....

within the past few month's godaddy has assigned personal account executives to create an even stronger bond with it's customers... i think only people with large domain portfolio's with godaddy will have one..... anybody else get contacted by them? some perks are $6.95 for all new/renewals/transfers of domains and other stuff.. dont really remember, got the email a few months ago... also got a few phone calls from my personal account executive guy who keeps reminding me of the great benefits.... hehe... i will probably renew a few hundred domains with him next month, we'll see.

both godaddy and yahoo are pretty easy to navigate and overall user friendly... enom is best for domain resellers.... very simple and professional system they got

fabulous.com dropped their prices to $6.75 per month for wholesale account holders... i have regged some domains with them as well, they are one of the CHEAPEST this days i suppose....

I think you will find Directi are much cheaper than that $6.49 from memory, based in Mubai they can afford to be. Only problem for me is lack of support for IDN. Enom have a good business going but their reseller product doesn't do it for me and they are comparatively expensive.

I think daddyhalbucks know his game and is good at it, but his game isn't my game. I am trying to make far more money out of a lot less capital. Sounds risky and maybe it is, but at the end of the day it is the validity of your big idea that counts, and nothing counts until it is in the bank. Daddyhalbucks is still way out in front!

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i looked into directi like 2 years ago or so and they had the same pricing i believe but the control panel was buggy as was the support which i had trouble reaching..... i didn't like the thousands of dollars in advances scheme they had going as well....... why are they so great this days, what has changed?
 
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Hello Dave,

We would be happy to extend the special dnforum rate to you and anyone else interested. Bill at domainsite is a great guy, we became friends at the Italy ICANN Meeting. I can extend you better rates, better service and the best security in the industry. Domain traders love our change of ownership/push system as it takes seconds to change ownership.

In any case, let me know how we can help you. [email protected]
 

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mcahn said:
Posted by mike031

i looked into directi like 2 years ago or so and they had the same pricing i believe but the control panel was buggy as was the support which i had trouble reaching..... i didn't like the thousands of dollars in advances scheme they had going as well....... why are they so great this days, what has changed? [/email]

Well the pricing is about $0.40 cents less than I can get elsewhere. Admittedly, a hefty advance is required, but if you have a lot of renewals to do that is not so much of an issue.

I have never had a problem transferring my drops out, and the telephone support is good.

Essentially, they are geared up for reselling, and if you are interested in that then they are likely to be as good as any.

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