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tunafabulous

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Joe,

You mentioned that CentalNic has partnered with venders eNom and Dotster, are you aware of any other register companies in the pipeline that will be selling these domains?
 

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Hi Tuna,

We are talking to all registrars, but have no announcements right now.
 

Dale Hubbard

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What about the off-beat extensions offered at RegisterFly? I read this there:

"Access to these new domain names is currently available to internet users via one of several partner ISPs and users who have activated their browser with a simple to install plug-in software application. The number of internet users who have access to these new domains is growing rapidly. It already exceeds more than 180,710,501 users world-wide"...

Don't mean to invade the thread here but I guess it's sorta relevant?
 

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Hi Azooza,

There is a significant difference between Centralnic domains (e.g. us.com, uk.com, eu.com, etc.,.) and New.net domains (aka "the offbeat names available at Registerfly"... e.g. .shop, .sex, .club, etc.,.).

New.net states that their domains can be accessed by "more than 180,710,501 users world-wide" Although I don't contest their claim and although that is a lot of people... it is still much less than the entire Internet community.

The latest estimate I could find placed total "World Internet Users at 604,111,719 (That is a 2002 estimate and probably much higher today).*

What that means is that at least two/thirds of Internet users worldwide can not reach New.net domains today. They must first download & install a special proprietary plugin.

It's my view that this presents a difficult challenge to registrants like you and me who will often have to tell potential web visitors that our web site can not be reached unless those visitors download and install the plugin first...

This is kind of a catch 22. Your visitors can't reach your site until they get the plugin... and often they can't get the plugin until they reach your site. One can go to New.net's site to get the plugin and there are some large ISPs like Earthlink that support the plugin at the ISP level. Or, I understand that there are some programs similar to Kazaa that automatically distribute and install the plugin as part of their program (that's an issue for another day). All of this seems to be an unnecessary hassle to me.

It is possible that New.net domains will become more omnipresent and easier to visit over time, but that is not the case today and most people who register domains want to do something with them right away.

You have to give that company credit for their persistence and drive. They have persisted in the face of much opposition.

But the bottom line is that New.net domains can only be reached by 1/3rd of Internet users right now.

Centralnic domains are reachable by all 604,111,719 + Internet users right now.

This is because Centralnic domains are sub-domains of .com (technically "us.com") and they work exactly the same. They operate in the existing root structure of the domain name system using well accepted standards that have been in existence since the beginning of the Internet. Many schools and government entities have used domains and standards similar to Centralnic's for years. Think of http://www.chino.k12.ca.us or http://www.dced.state.ak.us . These sites all work fine for the WWW as well as for e-mail using the same standards (admittedly, they are a bit cumbersome on the fingers).

Centralnic domains like us.com or uk.com should not be compared to New.net domains at all. They are very different animals.

Once again, sorry for the long post.

J.A.

* source - http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/xx.html#Comm
 

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Hi JA,

I couldn't agree with you more, actually. I am aware of the difference in methodology of Centralnic and New.net operations. I also think that New.net have taken and sustained a radical approach and I tame my hat off to them for their tenacity and ingenuity.

I guess the point of my post was in context with transfer of 'ownership' or rights of use.

I am also a proponent of subdomaining and think that there is great potential for this. I did actually 'buy' a Centralnic domain a while ago, but I think it lapsed...

In the bigger picture, my vision is that there will be a new internet system within the next five years (and I don't mean just the enlargement of the current IP address blocks) and this new system will emanate from China.

I didn't mean to be deprecating when I said "off-beat system" for New.net -- it was meant to be 'tongue in cheek'...

Good luck!
 

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Joezeppy,

Do you know of any other sites/forums that I would be able to market accountant.us.com??? I'm not very familiar with sites outside of the US.

Thanks,
Tuna
 

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Hi Tuna,

Aftermarket domain sellers include:

http://www.sedo.com
http://www.afternic.com
http://www.buydomains.com
http://www.greatdomains.com (are they still around - not sure on that one).

Although I am a great proponent of Centralnic domains, I can't ( and usually refrain from) opining on their market value as an investment. They are much more popular today in Europe and the UK than they are here in the US. I think that's because in the UK and certain parts of Europe, people are more used to third level domains.

The whole of domain speculation is exciting but admittedly, very "speculative". It's really hard to determine who is going to want what and what is going to be the next big domain.

JA

P.S. When does somebody become a little more than a newbie around here. I've been in the domain business for 4 years and just because I don't spend my whole day here, I'm a "newbie"????

Oh well.
 
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