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Hello

Who is using them?

Yesterday :

rjo.net
rmz.net
stopsign.com
poweroften.com


homepage : http://www.ar.com
Snapnames new partner? Or private club?
 

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Looks like "Alice" has found out that she can use the "rabbit hole" to catch domains.

We'll find out shortly ... :eek:
 

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Alice beat me today eventhough I had a snap and NW.
 

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I dont know' but you gotta love ar.com
 

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eNom got AR.com ?

Wow, good job!
 

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who said enom got it.....it's been regged since 94
 

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Oh, sorry, what was the mention of ar.com then?
 

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ar.com = alice's registry

They've been around since the .info landrush in 2001, but I haven't seen them active in the drops for a while. I can vaguely remember them grabbing some stuff about a year ago..
 

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Originally posted by devildude8989
Oh, sorry, what was the mention of ar.com then?

ar.com is getting nice drops thats why!
 

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Yesterday xboxcodes.com , it looks like it is not snapnames, becuase there is still snap on that name? Maybe buydomains? Maybe UltSearch? No whois available.? Really strange
 

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I agree that Alice must have united with BuyDomains or UltSearch.

I keep saying it. If Enom does not unite the other registrars into a drop club. The big three will unite the rest of the small registrars for their own benefit. Which will put us further down the drop catching "food chain".

The ETP members and Enom "Drop Club" members should be pushing Enom to ACT NOW! Otherwise, someone else will.
 

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Lost yet another name to buydomains today beating snap/namewinner/& everything else in sight. I don't like the idea of private drop catchers that are not open for business to the general public OR individuals like buydomains/ultsearch hoarding names on a massive scale like they do.

This is not good for the health of the internet in general and helps build an argument for a WLS system or some better solution. Sure I can buy my own connection to TRY to compete....but i don't think this should be allowed at all.

Maybe there should be a lottery system where 50 percent of the names at a drop go to pre-order and then 50 percent of them are auction (kind of like the snap/namewinner split now except taking buydomains and others out of the equation) so that if you win the auction and the pre-order you will get the name and at least someone would have a chance in either case. But then prices would be driven through the roof at one auction site which could have a positive effect on the market and domain prices in general (which will benefit buydomains and others who have already hoarded domains) and again what would keep others from buying up all the slots (again squeezing out the little man). Hell I dunno, whatever method can get me the most names would be fine by me and that's what everyone else is thinking and why we are even discussing this. I don't think there will ever be a perfect solution. :D

If Enom does not unite the other registrars into a drop club.

Why does it have to be ENOM? Why can't someone else do it? You're forgetting the WLS is just around the corner. :dead:
 

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We really don't know if the WLS is going to happen. "What is the obvious, never happens!"

And, I don't want to change this into a WLS conversation. But, the big three will continue to dominate the name catching.

"Why does it have to be ENOM? Why can't someone else do it?"

The first one to unite the rest of the small registrars will elliminate the possibilities of someone else ALSO doing it. And, I would prefer it to be Enom instead of BuyDomains, Ultsearch, etc.
 

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And, I don't want to change this into a WLS conversation

I didn't either but it's a reality that may happen soon.

I would prefer it to be Enom instead of BuyDomains, Ultsearch, etc.

Me too. But I'm not sure I like the round robin idea. They would need to do a bidding system there also in order to cover costs and encourage other registrars to participate. This would only make snapnames go up on prices and registrars would flock to them instead since they already have the software and network setup to run efficiently enough to get most names. Lost of variables at play. This is an everchanging game.
 

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Hi!

It would seem to me that the fair method of distribution would be to have round robin type 'lotteries' much as was done for the .US and some of the other new domain extensions. No one probably can get their name in the hat at every registrar for most any significant name which means that there is a real chance for all parties. I got one of the best LRII .INFO names with the domain reserved for me at only two of the cheaper registrars. Other names that I was in for thirty times or so went to others. This is likely as it should be. Ultimate Search, Web Magic, and Buy Domains seem like real cancers in this system. The worst thing is that they do next to nothing useful with the domains that they have. Buy Domains is a dealer which is likely better than what the other two are up to. It probably makes them no worse than most of us, I supose but no one should have the absurd advantages that these guys have.

In this system, the registrars could choose to sell their effort for $20 as GoDaddy did in the .US land rush (and they were very effective at that!) or put the names up for auction with bids into the stratosphere for better names. The submission order should be random rather than in the order of the registrars choosing making it almost as likely that the $20K name goes to some little guy for 20 bucks or to the end user for the 20 grand or possibly the reverse. It's not perfect but the proposed MLS system sure isn't either. Choice names will just mostly be bought up by the big guys and I am not sure that any method should grant a 'sure thing' to anyone. That is the only fair way to handle this problem in my opinion but, in truth, money likely will win as it does in all political things. On the other hand, the registrars should be for this is it would guarantee their continued existence amking money in a free market in a method of their choosing. This present system is absurd in it's own right; that is for sure!


Best Wishes,

Jon Hall
 

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Random Round Robin Best Distribution System

This will still turn into an auction based system. ENOM during the .US introduction took bids in excess of 10K for certain names. Others did the same thing while some of the smaller ones took a simple fee. I know of a few registrars who never even submitted the names and just simply took the money.

The submission order should be random rather than in the order of the registrars choosing

See even in this system there are more flaws.

I think the best solution is having a 50% auction system and a 50% preorder system like the current namewinner/snap system. Names would be distributed to each randomly (with half going to each). And in order to make sure you get a name you would have to order both places. This means that if people buy up all the pre-order slots you can still bid for a name and have a 50/50 chance. Prices will probably go through the roof especially if the pre-order is taken and big money will probably win here but it would cut out this buydomains crap (meaning them using their own connections) and independent drop catchers who have no accountability in the current system.
 

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ar.com definitely not UltSearch nor BuyDomains guess again :)
 
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