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closed another biz scam !!!

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I'm usually getting quite frustrated with the results of the appraisals on my names ( or other members) here or most other forums.
It usually only shows the ignorance of some dnf members.
(see .info or e- names which in reality sell for huge $$$'s , but are here or in other forums appraised at $ 10 to $ 12 )
Why having a appraisal board , if only a few members take it seriously ?
having said that (feeling much better already) :goofy:

Please appraise the following Domain name :


SCAM.BIZ (scam.biz)

(according to the following guidelines: development - possibilities, length, usefulness)

enduser & reseller price


Thank you



 

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Hmm - frustrated hey!
Well one of the problems of asking for an appraisal on a name is that you are asking everyone to print their opinion - and opinions can be very varied, so you have to be professional and accept the good with the bad.
Many domainers often can't see beyond .com and those with many .com's don't like the idea of .biz/.info challenging their names. Add to this the variation in valuing experience and your delight with your new name and that's quite a mix to balance!

Take scam.biz - now .biz is generally assumed to be registered as an alternative to .com for a business. Now apply that standard to the word "scam" - does anyone want to represent themselves as being a scam business?
Okay, so it's probably not going to be suitable to a business directly related to the name - so what then. Well the word "scam" is shall we say "interesting" so I might want it purely for interest/novelty purposes; that will probably limit what I want to pay for it.
I could use it for a site discussing various "scams", but if that were the case I would probably be more likely to choose .info or .org.
So how much is scam.biz worth? More to you that to me :-)
Reseller $20-$40 - end user? Who knows, depends on what they want to use it for!
 

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Indeed, people on these forms are generally quite biased in their appraisals, which I actually believe is a strength.

Sure, we all hear about when the seemingly unimportant name gets sold for the big bucks, but how many unimportant names are never sold? You'll never really hear about those names.

Whatever you do, don't take the appraisals personally- as they say one man's junk is another man's treasure.

I'm with Mr Webname on scam.biz, it's a decent name but where is it best used? I would think as a informational site about businesses like Enron. With all due respect, it's not a bad name by any means, but I doubt anyone is going to break the bank for it. $75 maybe?
 

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Mr. Webname

Your appraisal was exactly to the point and also what I was asking for in a appraisal - evenso I personally thought that scam fits perfect for this tld , you made a good point ,that the plural would have been better.your appraisal was made very professional & should be shown as an guide how to appraise on this board.
the value itself was a bit less then I would think a reseller should pay - approx $ 75 -$ 150 , but we will see.
Mr Webname as you can see we are not too far apart and as I said before, more important is that the appraisals in this board should be done like yours, with logic and not just nasty remarks.
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Flatt

good job , thank you - i was typing my reply to Mr Webname as you posted - i thing we aggree on the reseller value...
thanx

 

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thank you Delete

I believe so also - for the enduser , I however will not hold on to it, until enduser comes by, because this could take years.
 

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Originally posted by wolfis.com
I however will not hold on to it, until enduser comes by, because this could take years.


Precisely the reason names like this get appraised for $12. I am one of those domainers who has trouble seeing beyond .com's. I believe that an investment is only worth what somebody is willing to pay for it, and to date it is practically impossible to get anybody to pay $$$ for .info domains.

It is a cruel world for non-dotcommers. I'm not saying I think it's fair, but since when is life fair? Personally, I would pay maybe $30-$50 for scam.biz, so that is where my appraisal would have to max out.

Something else to consider... you may be able to get more for the domain, but at what cost? For example, you could sell it to me now for $50, and that would represent it's immediate value (because you have a buyer in hand who has made that offer). You could decide that it is worth no less than $300, and refuse to sell it to me. You now hold something with a real value of at least $50, but with a potential value of more. How hard are you going to work and how many hours are you going to spend scouring the market for a buyer willing to pay more? And at what point will you settle for less?

Start with $50, subtract it from the final sale price, then divide that by the number of hours you spent trying to sell it. So let's say you work it hard, find a buyer willing to pay $200, and make a deal. Considering you could have dumped it for $50 before putting 15 hours into selling it, the "profit" you made by not selling it earlier is $150. Divide $150 by 15 and you discover by holding it you have earned $10/hour for your efforts. Was it worth it? I can tell you for me that would be a resounding "no". And I think my numbers were generous.

Will .info's ever be worth anything? Maybe. Like any investment, it is a gamble with it's fair share of risk. Personally, I'll stick with .com's
 

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thank you MovieDomains

agree with some of it , however i do not agree with .info's & .biz not selling for big $$$$.

please check dnjournal / sedo/ afternic

this year: sport.biz (EU 10,000), sports.info ($7,500), reason.info ($3000), herbs.info ( $ 5000),Austin.biz($4,500 ),Wissen.Info ($2,201 knowledge in german),alt.info ($ 330 old in german - highbid at pool)
 
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