** Barack Obama selects dotMobi for his mobile campaign **

[Dale Hubbard]

Given there's always a .mobi thread running and heading south, I don't mind chiming in now and then with my 2c. The extension has proven to be a dog. Anyone now trying to claw themselves out of a pit of useless registrations is not going to be able to do it financially, nor verbally here.

I 'fess up to two which I didn't unload as a matter of urgency after it became apparent a year or so ago that .mobi was essentially dead:

carkey.mobi
carkeys.mobi

These were speculative of course. If they ever put SIM engine disabling or Bluetooth backup unlocking systems in cars, I will be happy. Maybe they have - I've not checked Google for a while.

But I won't be registering any more .mobi domains.

 

[mediaadvantages]

1) You are wrong...The thread is about Obama. I don't see anywhere where it says the thread is titled who's portfolio is worth more.

2) If you think those domains of mine that you posted are typos then you should go back to grade school and learn english.

3) It's called a metaphor. Do you know what those are??? Guessing you don't since you think words like Handcuffed, Attrition, Starved and Sunburns are typos.

4) I don't doubt your portfolio is more valuable and never said that it wasn't. It's about the only thing you have one me

RAIDER
1. Portfolio Value

MA
1. Intelligence
2. Open Minded
3. More successful business
4. Actually understand Marketing and Branding
5. Teaches at a University
6. Received numersous awards in the advertising industry

Keep talking about your valuable portfolio...it's the only thing you have.

 

[Raider]

If you think those domains of mine that you posted are typos then you should go back to grade school and learn english.

My problem is I need to learn your kind of English... You must be the life of the party playing Scrabble.

Thermage.mobi
Xant.mobi
Xmass.mobi


ErectionPill.mobi
Theirs that Pre-Occupation again, This must of been your first reg. :smilewinkgrin:

Vesuvius.mobi
When I'm out on the road and need the latest Volcano forecast, I'll be sure to enter this one.

MA
1. Intelligence
2. Open Minded
3. More successful business
4. Actually understand Marketing and Branding
5. Teaches at a University
6. Received numersous awards in the advertising industry

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So what your saying is I need be educated and intelligent like you to own a portfolio of crappy dot Mobi's?

You must Teach at the University for the Retarded.

 

[mediaadvantages]

You obviously don't know what thermage is. Did you even search it or just guess? Again...IGNORANCE! Let me help you out a little since you are lazy.

1. Click the link. http://www.newleafvein.com/AestheticsServices.html#
2. Click on Aesthetics Services
3. See where it says "Thermage". Click it and read idiot.


Do you know what Xant is? Guessing not. Again...IGNORANCE! Let me help you with this one again.
1. Xant is short for "chrysanthemum". If you need more help on this one click the link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysanthemum. There are even pretty pictures for you seeing that you must be used to reading picture books.

Vesuvius - Let me guess. You didn't do the research again. Did you know it is a national park and tourist destination near the Bay of Naples? "Vesuvius" is searched about 7,500 times a month according to wordtracker. Thats quite a few more than your "Kitchen Bathroom".

Not all of my mobis were regged for me. I represent businesses who were registering domains for the mobile side of their business. In many cases we were able to acquire better names, therefore these names are being sold.

You sure like talking about my penis. Counting the copy of my domains, thats the third time you mentioned it.

Nice joke on the University for the Retarded. You are so original and act like an eight year old.

 

[Raider]

Let's face it, most of your Mobi's are CRAP, You wouldn't be selling them for $25 a piece or $10 a piece if thought they had any value... You know their worthless, so what's the point in arguing any further? What I see here on the Forum is a lot of Mobier's unloading their Mobi's for whatever they can get for them, Your just part of that crowd!.

What's hilarious is to see people like you registering Mobi typos or names that wireless users would never dream of entering into their handheld device. Names like xmass.mobi, Is this not a typo? Your not going to tell me that Santa Claus came out with a new variation are you?.

Vesuvius" is searched about 7,500 times a month according to wordtracker. Thats quite a few more than your "Kitchen Bathroom".

I didn't register Kitchenbathroom to monetize on it you idiot. I consider it more a brandable domain, I sold Kitchenandbathroom,com for $3200 and just sold "AmericanCabinets,com" for $7000. I'll bet that's more than you ever sold a generic .mobi for!

But your the self proclaimed smart one who has all the answers... Like I said before, take up another hobby, Do something your GOOD at, not something your BAD at!

I 'fess up to two which I didn't unload as a matter of urgency after it became apparent a year or so ago that .mobi was essentially dead:

We all register domains we later regret, Not a week goes by that I dont let a domain expire because I think it's crap... Nothing wrong with trying to unload them here either. The difference between us and mobier's like MA is; We dont trying to pass our crap off as a wise investment.

 

[mediaadvantages]

You have to be the most stupid person I have seen on a forum. You are a true naysayer in every context of the word.

I countered everyone of your arguments with facts and you can't admit your wrong. You have to try and and find another way for you to win rather than admitting you are wrong.

xmass.mobi was not a typo. Would you like to apologize for being wrong on the others you were absolutely positive they were typos? You didn't do the research. Don't state FACTS until you have done the work to make sure they are facts.

I could care less how much money you have sold a domain for. KitchenBathroom is a horrible name for any business. If you think it's brandable then you should start creating kitchen bathrooms. Stick your toilet right next to your stove and your shower right next to your fridge. I think you could be very successful with it. A company that provides a Thermage service might like to have a Thermage domain. Its much easier to brand a Thermage.mobi than it would ever be to brand KitchenBathroom.com.

What are you going to do when the parking is gone?? Have you even planned for it? It will happen and then what are you stuck with? Everyone will have to brand their domain. With the majority of sites in the top 10 being parked domains on almost every search you have ensured that this will happen in the near future.

I didn't know that making money is bad?? You haven't seen my portfolio. I have over 600 domain names and if you could f-ing read correctly you would have noticed that I stated I am reducing my portfolio. You are correct, everyone has some domains they let expire and don't renew. You have seen 10% of my portfolio, so don't sit here talk shit about people selling domains. If I have no plans of renewing them and they are expiring soon, why would I not try to get a little money out of them. I searched your sales threads and the majority of it is all crap! So don't say you aren't trying to push them off to other people. Do you really think lots of end users come to dnforum to buy domains??? If you bought them and are not trying to sell them to end users then you are trying to push your CRAP off on to other people and make a little money doing it.

BuyMyName.com - Horrible name....that you put great name in the thread.
Scoobys.com - Another horrible name that you considered quality. There were 60+ of these quality domains that no one responded to. I can only imagine how shitty the others were if you used Scoobys.com for the title of the thread.
MrTek.com - Isn't it spelled Tech? I'm sure lots of people are searching for Mr Tek on Google. I don't see any reason to spend money trying to brand MrTek as a typo. Again...another horrible name to brand.
BikiniArt.com - Same as Above. I don't think anyone has any interest in searching to find art done with bikinis. Another horrible domain.
Unusys.com - Do I really need to even comment on this one???

There is a common factor in these and more that I don't have the time to post right now. They are all yours and they all suck.

On 9/9/2007 you were all excited because "the .mobi registry is lowering its prices!" http://www.dnforum.com/f408/mobi-registry-lowering-prices-thread-248944.html You were excited enough you put an exclamation point on the end of it. The problem is you got in too late and pissed off about it so you are telling everyone .mobi is bad because you didn't get any good ones.


Here is a little quote you should start living by because it fits you well. "Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"!

 

[broe-foe]

By the way, Starbucks Coffee is branding in .mobi. Check out starbucks.mobi.

Just another stupid, know-nothing mega-corporation branding in a doomed TLD. Quick Raider, call Starbucks and tell them how stupid they are for branding in .mobi. Hurry, tell them right after you're done telling General Motors!

 

[impactadmin]

While the discussion here is based on opinions of both members, please keep your language and comments toward each other more appropriate and professional. There is nothing wrong with arguments brewed over ones opinions, but we begin to cross the line when you start making personal foul attacks.

Thank you
Huseyin,

 

[Theo]

By the way, Starbucks Coffee is branding in .mobi. Check out starbucks.mobi.

Just another stupid, know-nothing mega-corporation branding in a doomed TLD. Quick Raider, call Starbucks and tell them how stupid they are for branding in .mobi. Hurry, tell them right after you're done telling General Motors!

You mean http://saturn.enpocket.com/ - because that's where saturn.mobi redirects to.

 

[katherine]

By the way, Starbucks Coffee is branding in .mobi. Check out starbucks.mobi.

Just another stupid, know-nothing mega-corporation branding in a doomed TLD. Quick Raider, call Starbucks and tell them how stupid they are for branding in .mobi. Hurry, tell them right after you're done telling General Motors!

BTW they have a .asia too

 

[mjnels]

You mean http://saturn.enpocket.com/ - because that's where saturn.mobi redirects to.

yea, and Saturn.com redirects to http://www.saturn.com/saturn/SaturnIndex.jsp

and Microsoft.com redirects to http://www.microsoft.com/en/us/default.aspx


whoop-dee-doo.... i dont know any non-domainers that would be into taking note of re-directs of any kind... whether it re-directs to a longer URL or a different TLD, its all the same to non dough mainers.

 

[broe-foe]

You mean http://saturn.enpocket.com/ - because that's where saturn.mobi redirects to.

1) Yeah, I know. In fact, when I enter www.saturn.mobi into a browser, it redirects to gm.com. When I only enter saturn.mobi (without the "www") into a browser, it redirects to saturn.enpocket.com.

2) Oh oh, better tell General Motors that they are much better off branding saturn.enpocket.com rather than saturn.mobi. Quick, hurry up, go tell them that their high-priced Madison Avenue advertising agency and GM's execs don't know what they are doing branding in .mobi! Hurry, go tell them before they lose their shirts branding in .mobi!

Don't forget to tell Starbucks, General Motors, and all the other previously mentioned mega-corportations branding in .mobi that a few .com domainers at dnforum.com know what's best for their mega-corps. Quick, go tell them!

 

[Theo]

yea, and Saturn.com redirects to http://www.saturn.com/saturn/SaturnIndex.jsp

and Microsoft.com redirects to http://www.microsoft.com/en/us/default.aspx


whoop-dee-doo.... i dont know any non-domainers that would be into taking note of re-directs of any kind... whether it re-directs to a longer URL or a different TLD, its all the same to non dough mainers.

You don't get it, do you?

.mobi was a fad and it has passed. Congratulations to those that grabbed the few generics, made sales and then moved on to .asia and .me

The rest of the world - including the "few domainers" - remains untouched by this fad.

I asked you Mobimaniacs to point me to actual campaigns - in print, magazines, newspapers, billboards, street banners etc - that BRAND a .mobi

 

[mediaadvantages]

You don't get it, do you?

.mobi was a fad and it has passed. Congratulations to those that grabbed the few generics, made sales and then moved on to .asia and .me

The rest of the world - including the "few domainers" - remains untouched by this fad.

I asked you Mobimaniacs to point me to actual campaigns - in print, magazines, newspapers, billboards, street banners etc - that BRAND a .mobi

I believe you don't get it. You obviously don't understand marketing. Why would someone spend butt loads of their advertising budget on tv, newspapers, radio and other mediums when only 30% of that audience uses the mobile internet. They are marketing where their customers are at the moment. Tell me which makes more sense to you if you are advertising

Spend budget on reaching 100% of people who will or can view my site on a mobile phone?

Spend budget on reaching 30% of people who will or can view my site on a mobile phone?

One has much more waste than the other. Can you tell me which one? The point is that until 60% or greater are viewing the mobile internet it doesn't make sense for business to market using those mass mediums. I'm sure they would all like to be doing TV, Print, Radio and Outdoor, but it's not going to happen they way you expect to. Thats why they hire advertising agencies to create their media plans and not you.

 

[Theo]

Thank you for posting a load of crap without dipping your pen in your brain first.

I've worked for media companies for 15 years. I've seen it all - but whenever there is a product, traditional media is the 1st place utilized to reach out to the public. I don't care how hard you try to twist it, .mobi has ZERO public exposure. In fact, IDN domains have A LOT of media exposure in several countries, such as Russia, Japan and China. You will see them on the subway, in tv commercials, on street billboards.

Show me one such .mobi campaign.

I am talking from facts, you're trying to convince me that a dead horse is still able to stand on all fours.

 

[mediaadvantages]

I'm telling you have no clue. I've been in the business for 17 years and owned an agency for 7 years. I teach at a University. I speak at conferences in the medical industry about media.

Telling people to start a campaign using traditional media just shows how little you know about advertising. Would you mind showing me the TV commercials and print campaigns for Myspace, Facebook, Digg and Twitter? Thats right, they didn't do them. Do you know why? Because they marketed where their potential customers were. I would suggest every client you have fire you immediately.

Thank you for posting a load of crap without dipping your pen in your brain first.

I've worked for media companies for 15 years. I've seen it all - but whenever there is a product, traditional media is the 1st place utilized to reach out to the public. I don't care how hard you try to twist it, .mobi has ZERO public exposure. In fact, IDN domains have A LOT of media exposure in several countries, such as Russia, Japan and China. You will see them on the subway, in tv commercials, on street billboards.

Show me one such .mobi campaign.

I am talking from facts, you're trying to convince me that a dead horse is still able to stand on all fours.

Have you not seen the advertising Zagat.mobi has done? Or FoxNews.mobi?

 

[dn-101]

Yes,
it's right here:
****zagat.com/
You'll have to replace **** with the right word

 

[Theo]

I'm telling you have no clue. I've been in the business for 17 years and owned an agency for 7 years. I teach at a University. I speak at conferences in the medical industry about media.

Telling people to start a campaign using traditional media just shows how little you know about advertising. Would you mind showing me the TV commercials and print campaigns for Myspace, Facebook, Digg and Twitter? Thats right, they didn't do them. Do you know why? Because they marketed where their potential customers were. I would suggest every client you have fire you immediately.

Have you not seen the advertising Zagat.mobi has done? Or FoxNews.mobi?

Feeling the heat already? Because I haven't started yet.

Buddy, I've worked in two continents and I am from Europe. If you want to push your old school stuff you are in the right country. The big ad agencies, media, fashion, technology that want to brand and promote a product or a service do so after a lot of research; especially focusing on viable things.

I haven't seen jack shit in the most reputable publications in the UK, Spain or Italy about your .mobi obsession.

Two years after .mobi launched you bring up zagat and foxnews? You must be hanging out too much at sports bars, sipping Bud light.

If you're teaching media at a university maybe it's time for a change; a new generation of American minds don't need the rusty stuff you proclaim to know.

 

[Raider]

You have to be the most stupid person I have seen on a forum. You are a true naysayer in every context of the word.

:lol::lol2::lol:

Who's the IDIOT selling worthless Mobis for 10 bucks a pop! ound:

What's your profit on that anyway?.... Let's do the math again;

Godaddy Reg Fee: $9.99
Sale Price: $10.00
Net Profit: .01

Wow! You only have to sell 999 Mobi's to invest in another Mobi.. Your a financial genius MA! And you say you Teach at a University? They actually have courses that teach students to go broke?

I countered everyone of your arguments with facts.

Facts? Sounds more like a lot of smoke and mirrors to keep Mobi alive just long enough for you to unload them.

If your Mobi's have so much potential, why not hold onto them for a little while longer or ask more money?

I could care less how much money you have sold a domain for.

We know, We know, you said it a hundred times... You dont care because you DONT know what it's like to make real money, Real money to you is PENNIES, not DOLLARS.

You haven't seen my portfolio.

Nor do I want to, I've seen enough of your Mobi crap to last a lifetime...

Another horrible name that you considered quality. There were 60+ of these quality domains that no one responded to. I can only imagine how shitty the others were if you used Scoobys.com for the title of the thread.

LOL.... I would of been surprised if they did sell, Testing the waters is one thing, trying to unload is another. It didn't take long to realize you cant sell brandable domains here and expect them sell for anywhere near what they could to a end user. 6 offers for Scooby's BTW, 2 offers for Bikiniart...but unlike you, I dont sell my domains for pennies.

On 9/9/2007 you were all excited because "the .mobi registry is lowering its prices!" http://www.dnforum.com/f408/mobi-registry-lowering-prices-thread-248944.html You were excited enough you put an exclamation point on the end of it.

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Now I know your a complete IDIOT!.... I posted that thread to show MTLD was dropping it's pricing, a sure sign of BAD things to come and I was right, They dropped their price and looked where .Mobi is today. :dead: Poor suckers like you cant even get that reduced REG FEE back!

The problem is you got in too late and pissed off about it so you are telling everyone .mobi is bad because you didn't get any good ones.

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What are you smoking? ::smokin: I'm patting myself on the back for NOT registering .mobi's!, The TLD is fading into oblivion, WHO in their right mind would want them? ONLY YOU!

Here is a little quote you should start living by because it fits you well. "Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"!

Here's a quote for you and the Mobi crowd;

Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago.
~ Bernard Berenson

 

[mediaadvantages]

ACRO

Here is your research. I'll play your little numbers game with you. Let's see what makes sense. You have $6,000,000 to spend on an advertising campaign. We will see what you get different mediums. For sake of being fair since I'm not putting a media plan together we will spend 1/3 in TV, 1/3 in Print, 1/3 in Radio.

TV - Going to cost you about $300,000 to create the spot. The average cost for this years network upfront was about $42 per thousand. With our remaining $1,700,000 we will have an estimated 40,476,190 impressions. Remember that only 30% of these people have a mobile internet data plan or view the internet on a mobile phone. We are now at 12,142,857 impressions that will reach our potential customers.

Print - The average cost per thousand for print is around $90 per thousand impressions (NYTimes is $144 per thousand impressions). Since we didn't even consider if print is the right medium for our client due to what print can offer. We just picked it because its a mass medium and you say we have to use it. This will deliver 22,222,222 impressions. Remember that only 30% of these people have a mobile internet data plan or view the internet on a mobile phone. We are now at 6,666,666 actual impressions that will reach our potential customers.

Radio - The average cost per thousand for radio is around $30-$35. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and use $30 per thousand. This medium will deliver 66,666,666 impressions. Remember that only 30% of these people have a mobile internet data plan or view the internet on a mobile phone. We are now at 20,000,000 impressions that will reach our potential customers.

Add all of those numbers up and for $6,000,000 we will get 38,809,523 impressions that are actually potential customers.

Now we are going to spend that same $6,000,000 on a mobile campaign where 100% of the viewers are potential customers because they already view the internet on their mobile and we are reaching them while they are using it (even better!) The average cost per thousand on mobile advertising is around $15-$20 per thousand. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt again and go with $20 per thousand. We will reach an estimated 300,000,000 impressions with our mobile campaign who are potential customers because they are already viewing our mobile ads on a mobile phone!

So basically my campaign can be 10x more effective by targeting my customers where they actually are! OMG...you mention research but you automatically want to start spending budgets on mass mediums. Go back to class Acro!