For Sale Casino Domain - $277 earned in 5 days

[namestrands]

DOMAIN SOLD.

I recently added links from my gaming site and my earnings have rocketed with each domain earning on average $90 a day now

I am willing to sell one of the domains, in order to raise cash for a portfolio buy out.

I will keep the link on my gaming site for 2 months. It is a good name and as my gaming site gets indexed many times a day by the major engines.

(stats removed)http://www.gamesevolved.com/prizepoker.jpg

There is no BIN.. highest offer by 6pm GMT+1 gets the name.

 

[octobus]

So the only or main traffic source is the links pointing to prize-poker.com on your other websites?

 

[financialtraffic]

The value is zero once the link is pulled from the other site? I'm not sure I follow the logic of this sale from a buyers point of view.

 

[croupier]

I believe this is also against the T&C of fabulous (and probably other parking programs). If I were you I'd remove the links asap.

 

[namestrands]

thanks for all the comments, but this is for all intents and purposes a sales thread and FYI - the terms and conditions state that you can not direct unqualified traffic to your domain. however since I own a gaming site, linking to a gaming domain is not in breach of terms and conditions. I have it on authority that even on parked sedo domains you are allowed to link from a site you own.

Again appreciated comments, but lets concentrate on the point at hand, if you are not interested then dont bid.

I do not submit that you will earn what I have, nor do I make any promises. The domain is for sale as is with true and accurate stats. I am not trying to dupe or mislead. It is what it is.

I will not insult any of your intelligence by pretending the domain is anything more or less than what I have stated in the Original Unedited post above

Submitted without prejudice.

 

[croupier]

I wouldn't normaly disrupt a sales thread but this is clearly wrong, and what you're doing hurts PPC revenue for everyone.

You're send clicks from a freebie video game site to a 'poker online' category site which advertisers expect to get visitors who are looking to play poker for real money.

I have a fairly large poker portfolio and I average a click from 1 in 4 visitors, the traffic you're sending is average less than 1 in 36 - this clearly shows that you're sending unqualified traffic.

 

[namestrands]

Well I sold you pokerstartpage.com a few months ago and you are earning $250 a month on it (according to your thread). I dont here you complaining about that.

Look I am sorry that your domains are not earning as much as mine but that is something you really need to get over, if you think it is wrong then take it up with whoever you feel it is appropriate, I am operating under the terms and conditions. Just because you think I am not means nothing, unless you can get this confirmed by the parking program in question, please withold your comments until then.

again this is a sales thread, and as for PPC, I am not in this for everyone.. I am in this for me I frankly could not give a **** what other people earn. I am in this business to make money, not to worry if my money making is hurting others who are profiting from gambling and such..

If you are so distressed about this then perhaps you are in the wrong game. I will be happy to discuss the matter further via PM...

THIS IS A SALES THREAD

 

[taboo]

again this is a sales thread, and as for PPC, I am not in this for everyone.. I am in this for me I frankly could not give a **** what other people earn. I am in this business to make money, not to worry if my money making is hurting others who are profiting from gambling and such..

If your business is to make money, perhaps you should invest in your reputation.

What you are selling is not legitimate.

 

[namestrands]

thanks for bumping the thread people.. Viral Marketing really does work.

$2900 is the highest offer on the table so far

For the record people I have been completely open and honest about the domain.. there are people on this board that would not disclose what I have. It is an open book and of course honesty really does upset people as does envy.

I have tried to be honest and fair by disclosing complete and accurate information. It is a legitimate sale.. that is what I earned and that is the domain name and I own the domain name. I have not tried to hide any information, I could of simply not told anyone how the traffic came about, this I would feel would be dishonest and an attempt to deceive the members of the board.

For this I get collateral attacks.. thanks everyone for encouraging people not to be open and honest.

The highest offer now at $3400 Sales closes 18 minutes from time stamp of this message..

Special thanks to all who sent those lovely messages via messenger. Its all appreciated and I do not hold the jealous few against the majority of the board

 

[GeorgeKGeorgeK is verified member.]

It's only "earned" if Fabulous actually pays out. I expect they'll reverse those earnings, once aware of the TOS violations.

 

[namestrands]

thanks for the bump

symantics.. again that is what it says in my account, and of course that may change... due diligence is something we all have to be aware of..

DOMAIN SOLD... THANKS FOR ALL YOU COMMENTS PEOPLE and of course thanks for all the viral marketing..:evil:

 

[croupier]

Ok, so now it's 'sold' I guess I can say what I want

Well I sold you pokerstartpage.com a few months ago and you are earning $250 a month on it (according to your thread). I dont here you complaining about that.

I thought the links were legitimate, now I know they're not I've taken it off Fab.

Look I am sorry that your domains are not earning as much as mine but that is something you really need to get over

A childish quote requires a childish response. You get 1 in 36 clicks and I get 1 in 4 from a large portfolio - I wonder who makes the most :-#:

again this is a sales thread, and as for PPC, I am not in this for everyone.. I am in this for me I frankly could not give a **** what other people earn. I am in this business to make money

Very short sighted. If the advertisers get junk traffic the lower their bids, or don't bid at all. I wonder if you'll still make money when the advertisers stop paying.

 

[namestrands]

You know very well that the links on pokerstartpage are legit, you have access to the stats of where they are coming from, or have you just ignored it for the last 3 months.. and of course you are now going to donate all that profit to charity, because you a new father now, and you have a moral stand to prove to your children

you are assuming that I have only one domain with fabulous hmmm

if the advertisers stop paying then others will.. circle of life.. there is a buzz each day, a new keyword can hit $80 click through.

I find it amusing that you feel you have to attack me when I have been nothing but honest, look, if it makes you feel more of a man and helps you convince yourself that you are right then ok... I am a nice guy...

you are right and I am wrong the domain is a magical domain from the lands of fairies and pixies where everybody loves everybody and dont profit from peoples addiction to gambling, or add to the moral decay of the world.. a place were people care about other peoples profits.. or even in a place where money does not exist...

You operate how you operate and dont concern yourself with how I do, i appreciate the concern but come on... let it go.

I have taken on board all the comments made and have submitted a fax to my key account manager at fabulous, I have read the TOS and I still stand by my decision... if I am told otherwise by my account manager then I will of course Cease all hyperlinks, and as a gesture of goodwill I have done so already until I can get absolute confirmation on this...

You loose nothing in this, where as I loose all my earnings, and too loose all this months earnings, well there goes my down payment on that boat.. but hey if I am wrong then I would be the first to admit it, and I will personally make a public apology..

As I have stated.. I have nothing to hide.. now mr Croupier can you say the same.?

Anyway thanks, I have had some great messages from people asking if I have any more domains... you see these people realised that this was a sales thread and well have acted on it accordingly.

I am sorry that you are so bored and well I really am sorry that you feel you have to attack peoples character in order to give you life some substance and meaning.. but hey I bear no grudges, to you or to anyone. And I am sure everyone really appreciates your Vigilante approach to sales threads that compete with your portfolio, but hey I am not judging here.

Now excuse me while I take my wad of cash, and leave this thread..

its a shame no-one was interested in your sale... perhaps you need some viral marketing tips.. drop me a mail anytime I got some great tips..

Take Care

 

[GeorgeKGeorgeK is verified member.]

Folks raised the exact same concerns when Porno.com was sending traffic to Poker and Mortgage PPC (since stopped), and similar cases of advertiser abuse.

For those folks with legitimate QUALITY traffic, it's behaviour like that above that causes advertisers to lower their bids.

 

[croupier]

I really am sorry that you feel you have to attack peoples character in order to give you life some substance and meaning

I never attacked your character. I was just saying that what you were doing was against the T&C of fab - you could have done this unkowingly or missinterpreted the T&C.

That's it from me, you can have the last word now

 

[namestrands]

well you have dealt with me in the past.. and I am as straight as they come.. if I was aware of TOS violation I would not post it so public.. again if I my account manager says that I am wrong then I will post an apology warning... and join your Vigilante group... Grab your torches and pitch forks... See I am practicing already... ;-)

all that said referrals from my site only accounted for 3% of the traffic...

ah so all this for nothing... ah well it was fun all the same.. and well its better than therapy

 

[mictho]

I find it annoying when sales threads are crapped by people on some deranged moral quest for justice.

Looking at the thread, the person was sending traffic from a games site. OK, and? I wasn't aware that just because someone who plays free games automatically disqualified them as a candidate for someone who might be interested in playing poker games?

The demographic of a games site attracts a wide range of people ranging from teenagers to those in their 50s+. Maybe one day Joe Schmo saw the poker link and decide to try his luck with poker games instead of the regular "Hit the Hedgehog" flash games. Hearing people bitch and moan about how it's not "quality traffic" is not only irritating, but is purely conjecture. Lets break it down:

Free flash games are entertaining.
Poker games are entertaining.
People play games for entertainment.

If a link to play a poker game piqued your interest on your perennial quest for entertainment today then who is to say that is not "quality" traffic. A lead is a lead is a lead. Period. Now go eat a cake or something.

 

[MerlinK]

What is the case in a scenario where a domain has a huge amount of link-ins from old sites, potentially unrelated? Even if the domain is highly targeted, and advertising within its contextual category, and it has a huge amount of unrelated link-ins, would you still claim it was making advertisers lower their bid prices?

A good example would be a domain like Candy.com (potential double meaning). If it had been a porn site before, and had thousands of link-ins from that period of time which sent ~4,000 uniques per day does it mean that it is morally reprehensible to use it on Fabulous.com to display candy ads?

I think not.

A publisher's CTR shouldn't affect the advertisers bid amounts in a PPC system.
Isn't that the point of PPC?
Pay-Per-Click

Yes, your traffic may be highly targeted from type-ins -- but if you want to be snooty about PPC advertisers and how they shouldn't qualify for PPC because of "low quality" traffic -- perhaps you should make deals directly with advertisers to display their ads on your domain exclusively. I doubt many would, because quite simply, they are satisfied with their current results from PPC.

I will go as far as to say that I think it is a rather selfish notion to whine about advertisers lowering bid prices and subsequently hurting those with "quality" type-in traffic. Share the wealth -- you're whining about neglibile amounts of money compared to what you earn anyway, and all in the name of preventing others from prospering, based on subjective interpretations of "the law of PPC" and the fact that you want to scrape those last few crumbs which you think you are so entitled to. What is it, do you own a trademark on the specific niches that your highly targeted domains display?
How dare they invade your territory.
(bah)

 

[GeorgeKGeorgeK is verified member.]

All people drink water.

People visit sex.com.

We should be linking to bottled water sponsors on sex.com, according to mictho, as they're qualified leads.

 

[MerlinK]

Can't people that use the internet read?

If they can read, can't they read PPC text ads?

If they can read, can't they comprehend?

If they can comprehend, can't they understand what they are clicking on?

If they understand what they are clicking on, then they are clearly a "qualified lead".

Who cares how they got there?