closed Domain forfeiture

[pam]

Amazing

 

[dvdrip]

Nice!

 

[E=MC2]

wow, that seems rigged, dont know if i quite believe it, looks fake.
if its true thats pretty neat, i have never seen a site that had that before. i guess theres a first for everything.

 

[GeorgeK]

You'd think the Department of Justice wouldn't be using Hotmail email addresses in the WHOIS.

 

[bidawinner]

Looks like an attempt by someone to give their site some traffic ..

pretty funny actually.. looks like it will make the rounds.. wonder when the ads will start appearing ?

 

[dvdrip]

It's real.

 

[Spider]

THE RETURN OF THE OBSCENITY SECTION

It appears that the Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section of the Justice Department’s Criminal Division is back in action, after over a decade of relative calm for the adult industry. Recent comments and legal actions indicate that the “Section” is gearing up for an assault on the industry, using beefed-up obscenity laws, now that Congress passed the PROTECT Act. “I have the feeling that something big is going to happen in the near future,” said Patrick Trueman, a former federal obscenity prosecutor and current consultant to the American Family Association – referencing upcoming obscenity prosecutions. “I have been assured of that,” he added. Andrew Osterbaan, head of the Section, said that new prosecutors and Internet analysts were recently added to target those who sell obscene materials over the Internet and promised, “We hope to alter criminally offensive conduct on the Internet as you see it.” Osterbaan is also well aware of the inevitable First Amendment challenges that will be asserted in any such prosecution: “Obviously we’re going to be developing some new case law in that area,” he said. Recently, however, Trueman has been complaining about the lack of results by the Justice Department. “This is an issue they haven’t handled well . . . they haven’t made it a priority, and therefore there have been less than a handful of prosecutions and no prosecutions to date of major pornographers who are violating the law,” he said. Violating the law in whose opinion, one might wonder. Possibly in response to this kind of pressure, Alabama Republican Senator, Jeff Sessions and Texas Republican Representative, Lamar Smith, are planning to introduce a resolution urging the Justice Department and all 93 United States Attorneys across the country to be more aggressive in prosecuting obscenity. Concerned Women for America (“CWA”), a so-called public policy group that also supports the resolution, accused United States Attorneys across the country of ignoring over 22,000 complaints of obscenity forwarded to them for investigation since June of last year through the “ObscenityCrimes.org.” The group is urging citizens to write letters to their United States Attorney, asking: “What are you doing about obscenity enforcement?” Disturbingly, eight out of ten Americans believe that federal laws against Internet obscenity should be vigorously enforced, according to a recent poll by the Wirthlin Worldwide research company. Another poll, conducted by Morality in Media, a well-known censorship group, concluded that 70% of respondents did not believe that obscenity laws were being vigorously enforced. The reliability of these polls is certainly suspect.
Signs of the upcoming obscenity prosecutions are already apparent: The Justice Department has initiated an obscenity prosecution against Mike and Sharon Corbett, alleging that videos sold through the Website, www.girlspooping.com, are obscene. The Justice Department is also looking to renew a 1998 obscenity investigation involving Garry Ragsdale and Clarence Thomas Gartman, in connection with various rape-torture fantasy videos. Finally, there was the well-publicized raid against Xtreme Associates, conducted in April, 2003. All of this leads to the inevitable conclusion that obscenity battles are looming on the horizon, and that the adult Internet industry must organize and make their stand.

 

[pam]

It's very real. I read the original indictment when it went down. There is a link there to a press release which explains how the site became the property of the US Government.

As to the hotmail address -- gotta figure they just don't want to give out a real email to avoid spam.

But -- doesn't a registrar own a domain? So, how can the government just sweep in and grab it?

 

[GeorgeK]

It's good to see the government and law enforcement cracking down, showing that the laws of the offline world apply to online activities.

When they forfeited the domain, the ownership was simply transferred from one registrant (the guilty ones) to the US government. The registrar never owned the domain name.

 

[izoot]

I'm sorry..>While I don't think I would find much interest in what the site name implies, how is this any worse than a multitude of other sites available. The government can censor what sites they want too?

Whats next on the list?

 

[pam]

izoot, they were nailed not for the website but for shipping videos via the US mail and the obscenity charges associated with it.

The original indictment had in very explicit terms what the videos depicted. I don't think you want me to explain it

 

[Nexus]

Originally posted by bidawinner
Looks like an attempt by someone to give their site some traffic .. pretty funny actually.. looks like it will make the rounds.. wonder when the ads will start appearing ?

Saw the same type of thing on that website that was distributing movies and "cracked" video games a while back. I think it looks pretty effective. I doubt it would be in anyone's interest to attempt to "parody" or "mock" these forfeiture pages on any level. %+|

~ Nexus

 

[Digital Address]

Plus we're talking West Virginia. Pursuit and prosecution has a lot to do with the local "climate," IMO.

 

[adoninet]

it's real

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/poopvid1.html

now how is someone paying to watch another take a cr*p obscene?

can you get arrested for going to the bathroom?

did the person buying the videos know what they were getting?

seems the person should have used UPS and they could have avoided the whole thing

no one in the porn industry uses the postal service for anything

you use UPS or Fedex

so what if someone video taped a natural act

so what if some weirdos want to buy it and look at it

one mans art is another's filth

come on, ashcroft spent thousands making clothes for the statue in the DOJ where he does his press conferences

since he didn't want the nipple of the statue showing in his conferences

now that is obscene

you live in dangerous times

when a person cr*pping is considered "OBSCENE"

 

[pam]

It was more than watching someone go to the bathroom,. it was watching someone go to the bathroom in another person's mouth as well as people playing around in it and having sex in it. I can't think of many people who don't think of sh*t eating as obscene. If you read the indictment, you saw that the cameras in the toilet videotaped a lot more than just urination.

"no one in the porn industry uses the postal service for anything"

Haven't ordered much porn lately, have you?

Originally posted by adoninet
it's real

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/poopvid1.html

now how is someone paying to watch another take a cr*p obscene?

can you get arrested for going to the bathroom?

did the person buying the videos know what they were getting?

seems the person should have used UPS and they could have avoided the whole thing

no one in the porn industry uses the postal service for anything

you use UPS or Fedex

so what if someone video taped a natural act

so what if some weirdos want to buy it and look at it

one mans art is another's filth

come on, ashcroft spent thousands making clothes for the statue in the DOJ where he does his press conferences

since he didn't want the nipple of the statue showing in his conferences

now that is obscene

you live in dangerous times

when a person cr*pping is considered "OBSCENE"

 

[adoninet]

I don't order porn, but I know the industry pretty well, the main producers are in CA, they all use UPS to ship to your local adult video store around the country, that is the industry and I have been some vegas trade shows for the industry as a guest of someone who was a major player in the industry

anyway, the producers of most of the "studio" level porn know you don't use the postal service

now if some wanna be porn czar used the USPO for porn, that's studpidity

the main rules are no kids and no beastality

this other junk is known as fetish

it's not obscene to me

it's not something I'd watch

but if two adults want to do that junk and film it and other adults want to pay to watch, that's their business

anyone trying to put morals on what people do is obscene to me

kids are one thing, I think pedophiles should be killed, end of subject

but the age of 18 is a joke

kids know what they are doing by 15 for sure

so to me the age should be in line with what kids do

15+ are not kids anymore, some may be but you have a lot of 15+ year olds with tons of sexual experience

so the age issue needs some work

as for beastality, I don't do it and the only reason it's on the books as a law is due to being in that obscene work "the bible"

you know the same book that says kill all homosexuals, beat your woman and children

someone wants to do an animal they're sick in the head and not a criminal if you ask me

should it be illegal, not if you ask me

is it illegal, yep, in the USA it is

now some other areas of the world allow such stuff

to me the only thing the US gov should be looking for is sex with young children

18 years old is a draconian law, it's the law but should be changed and in many states in the USA the legal age is way under 18

any law about anything with sex should be undone, except child sex laws

that's my opinion, that doesn't mean I condone it, or do it, but when the gov says this or that about what is moral, you're inches away from nazism

to me the whole New Testament is obscene

so if I ruled things would you like me passing laws the NT is illegal?

so what gives anyone the right to say some idiot can't eat c*ap if they want and film it and make money off of it

it's sick, the people doing it need help and so do the people watching it, but guess what, if that is their only problem, then who cares

I just don't believe anyone should be outlawing anything sexually

the only "exception" is kiddie stuff

again, I don't do it, I don't sell it, I know many in the "sex" industry and they don't usually trade in the bizarre stuff, but I don't see it being criminal

people should worry about real crimes. companies destroying the eco system of the planet so their is no future for the kids of your kids

the idiots with more nukes to destroy the planet how many times over, that's obscene

there's so many major problems on this planet that worrying about what someone does sexually is a joke

guess what, a few years ago they were putting people in jail for having sex with the same sex

was that right?

it was the law

what people do sexually is no ones business

you want sell it, just don't send me spam about it

put it behind a members area with an age check

keep away from kids

any sickos want to watch it, that's their problem

anyway, I don't see anything wrong with anything sexually unless it involves kids

then I say shoot them

now I do have a problem with 18 being the magic age

to me maybe 15 is the real age that needs protection

over 15 and you should know better

if they don't then shoot their parents too

 

[pam]

Originally posted by adoninet
I don't order porn, but I know the industry pretty well, the main producers are in CA, they all use UPS to ship to your local adult video store around the country, that is the industry and I have been some vegas trade shows for the industry as a guest of someone who was a major player in the industry

anyway, the producers of most of the "studio" level porn know you don't use the postal service

Gee, I've never been to an industry trade show yet I know the industry pretty well, since I produce videos as well as sell them. California has a lot of producers but Florida is fast catching up and may have already surpassed them.

I receive videos all the time from distributors and not all use UPS, some actually DO send through the US Post Office. Most smaller websites, particularly amateur websites, use the Post Office for video shipments as well.

"18 years old is a draconian law, it's the law but should be changed and in many states in the USA the legal age is way under 18"

For what? 18 is not the law in the USA for every state, only for 46 states. For the other 4, 21 is the legal age.

"put it behind a members area with an age check"

How can you prove to me you are over 21 with "an age check?" Kids as young as 14 are now able to obtain credit cards, so that's no proof. It's the reason why I would NEVER use an age check system, besides the fact they charge you year after year to verify your age. What, did I get younger in a year??

You'll see major changes in all the age check systems soon. Several have gone under due to Visa regulations and very shortly you will see a whole lot of age check type sites leaving the Internet.

 

[adoninet]

Yep, I'm in FL right now, we have "Girls of Daytona Beach" and "Girls of Bike Week" in the can



Not porn, but "Adult" oriented

Our target will not be the Net, it will be video stores

Now since you "Produce" videos, then maybe we should be talking biz outside of here

So this is my last post to your replies

We shouldn't be arguing in public

L8r

I'll PM ya

 

[pam]

I don't see an argument, I see a discussion.

Arguing is "you're a moron, you're wrong!" type comments

But yes, I produce videos, and have for many years. R-rated, but still adult since there is nudity. Too many laws for me to consider doing X-rated productions

Originally posted by adoninet
Yep, I'm in FL right now, we have "Girls of Daytona Beach" and "Girls of Bike Week" in the can



Not porn, but "Adult" oriented

Our target will not be the Net, it will be video stores

Now since you "Produce" videos, then maybe we should be talking biz outside of here

So this is my last post to your replies

We shouldn't be arguing in public

L8r

I'll PM ya

 

[adoninet]

see PM we don't need to be talking here

nice to meet ya

L8r