Domaincar

[Theo]

He dropped it...

I guess your company is not getting much traffic.
:-#

Actually, it's the only time I can say something positive about GoDaddy.
I contacted their legal department and the domain was released.

 

[dvdrip]

Did Domaincar register it with godaddy?
Domaincar doesn't use godaddy.

 

[Theo]

Obviously. Perhaps because it was hand-regged; it wasn't a drop.

 

[WhoDatDog]

I saw a name about four months ago that was very valuable. I saw it was in redemption, so I checked it every other day or so, and then I saw that it was registered by Domaincar.....I sent an email asking for a price and got a response.....4K. This was on a Thursday....that weekend I sent an email offering 1K. For some unknown reason I checked it's availability on Monday or Tuesday of the following week and it was available....Cha-Ching....

I figured that they were grabbing names and testing for traffic, and after reading this thread I am almost positive that's what they did. Lucky me.

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

Phishers, Cybersquatters, Typosquatters, Thieves, Forgers, etc.. are all in the same category. They are all one and the same. There is absolutely no difference.

These wrongdoers all increase our costs and bring the heat down on legitimate domainers. They commit the crimes, and we all pay.

Judges and arbiters judge small entites harshly because of their actions. Our legal costs are higher. We are all under suspicion.

If you are pissed off about what these rogues are doing to OUR industry don't do business with them --turn them in!! At every opportunity. Simple as that.

 

[denny007]

I am a TYPOSQUATTER, but I do not violate laws neither of country where I am citizen nor where I do usually live = I do NOT LEGALLY COMMIT ANY CRIMES.

Is funny how (some) Americans assume, their laws are valid for whole planet...

I am aware this nice profits are morally quesitonable, I do not defend it as clean income. But I do NOT break any law in MY jurisdiciton, therefore I do NOT commit crimes.

Also would love you to you explain me logic of - i.e. if I have a domain cartonetwork.com, how do I incrase your costs ?

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

I am a TYPOSQUATTER, but I do not violate laws neither of country where I am citizen nor where I do usually live = I do NOT LEGALLY COMMIT ANY CRIMES.

Is funny how (some) Americans assume, their laws are valid for whole planet...

I am aware this nice profits are morally quesitonable, I do not defend it as clean income. But I do NOT break any law in MY jurisdiciton, therefore I do NOT commit crimes.

Also would love you to you explain me logic of - i.e. if I have a domain cartonetwork.com, how do I incrase your costs ?

You state that as if you were a lawyer giving a legal opinion! Are you a lawyer? Let's here from a REAL lawyer about those above assertions of offshore immunity!!

If you register a .COM domain, you are subject to ICANN's rules and the UDRP regardless of where you live. It forbids abusive domain registrations.

If you use the root server in Virginia, you may may be subject to US jurisdiction.

BTW, many multinational companies have trademarks in many different countries.

If you are above board, what is your real name and real address? Do you hide your identity in the WhoIs? Why? If you are legit, why do you fly by night?

Put up --or shut up!!

By cybersquatting you give ammunition to companies who seek to improperly expand their TM rights. By cybersquatting you provide bad PR for our industry which tarnishes our legitimate interests. By cybersquatting you give arbiters and judges the black hat to shoot towards, bullets which often hit us as well. By cybersquatting you encourage the UDRP and the courts to backlash against small entities. These drive up our costs.

 

[denny007]

ICANN is NOT an institution empowered to decide any criminal liability. For this purpose serves a court. I am no lawyer, indeed, Mr. REAL lawyer. The only thing which ICANN can decide is take a domain, no other liability.

I am not "off-shore", I am citizen of country where I am born, where typosquatting or cybersquatting is not legally punishable. And I live in China, where it is AFAIK not punishable either (unless "REAL lawyers" call ofshore anyone who does not live in the USA).

I do not give my real name because of hysterical people like xxx or yyy (do not need to name IT, do I), because with those hysterical people one never know what they will do.

Also these hysterics are squeekers, they will squeek everything, and although theoretically I am not liable, practically sh*t can happen, so is good as a precatution.

And I use whois guard for one practical reason: with my name in whois, they can make bulk WIPO, but if they should WIPO me i.e. 20 domains one-by-one, they will not do it due to its costs. It's just matter of numbers, for me and for them.

By typosquatting I give ammunition to companies, thats true, but only against ME MYSELVES. Never saw WIPO decision based on "because there is a lot of typosquatters there".


If you use the root server in Virginia, you may may be subject to US jurisdiction.

Again - I am subject only to laws valid at jurisdiction, where I am located in. I tell you an example - in my country is crime "harm of the creditor" - that means, if you have debts and limited funds, you can not select just some creditor and pay him, you need to give to all creditors part according their debt share.

One guy commited this crime and run to the USA. My country asked USA to return him as he commited a crime. But as according US laws this is NOT a crime, they rejected to return him. And it works both ways, either you like it or not.

Put up --or shut up!!

Yet again someone who think he can order me... I even did not listen to bolshevik's orders 15~20 years ago, why should I listen to yours ? I will not shut up, I will not shut up, kiss my #$$, I will not shut up... You should know, as a REAL lawyer, a threat/order without consequences following if not fullfilled, is not only empty threat, is funny and laughable. It is a dog which does not bite. So bite me Mr. REAL lawyer (or SHUT UP ;-~~~)

 

[maroulis]

can we all chill out?? WTF is it full-moon already? and Daddy btw how do you judge somebody for typosquatting when you on the other hand have an XXX MILF affiliate text link on your homepage? Is PORN legal or do you allow the link to be activated based on some DOB info somewhere?

everybody breaks the law in one way or another.. I do 120mph driving freeway, I am risking an accident = increasing costs to public/health insurance = higher cost/liability to healthcare providers/insurers & government/etc..

Are we trying to change the world here or is this a Domain Forum? now let's get back on the topic or like Mocus says let's all get along

 

[Ed30]

Daddy btw how do you judge somebody for typosquatting when you on the other hand have an XXX MILF affiliate text link on your homepage? Is PORN legal or do you allow the link to be activated based on some DOB info somewhere?

Last time I heard, it wasn't illegal.

 

[maroulis]

really? it's NOT illegal if I'm i.e. underage or if the sites he's affiliated with don't have 2257 records? is that why TGP is going down due to legislation and most TGP sites implement either 2257 or some kind of statement regarding DoB?

 

[Ed30]

really? it's NOT illegal if I'm i.e. underage or if the sites he's affiliated with don't have 2257 records?

They do and you're not.

 

[denny007]

I think there was decisions made that one is not responsible for content of pages which one is linking to. Otherwise Google would be liable too...

 

[maroulis]

LOL i see everybody is in the mood to talk aboiut anything else but the topic of the thread

it's a start at least there is no arguing here

.... on another note did you know all 70 typos of bankrate.com are all taken? </add fuel in the fire>

back on topic by accident i mistyped my banks name (TexasnCU.org) and ended up in parking page..checked the whois and guess it's our friend from Panama http://www.whois.ws/whois-org/ip-address/texasncu.org/

 

[Focus]

TM typo-squatters are NOT Domainers, and I or anyone else could have easily had their portfolio had we decided to take the low-road. Wasn't tough to do TM typos and misdirect traffic, so turning down the dirty money was a choice. They may be rich slimeballs, but they are still slimeballs.

Stocdoctor is just mad cause his wife left him I think and took everything (probably for a typosquatter with real money..lol) So he always comes into threads and bashes everyone for such terrible crimes like "Typo Squatting" and TM infringment.. you know these right wing,"I am perfect - everyone else is evil" guy's are usually more crooked than anyone...Who are you to judge me, Denny, or anyone else here dude? Just my opinion on the matter..I'm about sick and tired of hearing his uncalled for and rude remarks about me and everyone else on DNF...Stocdoctor...if it's normally just YOU demonizing everyone and calling people out for being "typosquatters" etc, etc...but it's 90% of the people around you then maybe that would tell you something about the current trends in this domain business, does everyone have the money to buy type-in generic .com domains? NO, so typos are very important to our well being and making money..and if you can't understand that that's what this is really all about man then you are surely in the wrong business...maybe you should join the priesthood...or better yet...just "tell on" everyone like was suggested stupidly every chance you get...then you can really sleep good at night! ALONE... lol

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

ICANN is NOT an institution empowered to decide any criminal liability. For this purpose serves a court. I am no lawyer, indeed, Mr. REAL lawyer. The only thing which ICANN can decide is take a domain, no other liability.

I am not "off-shore", I am citizen of country where I am born, where typosquatting or cybersquatting is not legally punishable. And I live in China, where it is AFAIK not punishable either (unless "REAL lawyers" call ofshore anyone who does not live in the USA).

I do not give my real name because of hysterical people like xxx or yyy (do not need to name IT, do I), because with those hysterical people one never know what they will do.

Also these hysterics are squeekers, they will squeek everything, and although theoretically I am not liable, practically sh*t can happen, so is good as a precatution.

And I use whois guard for one practical reason: with my name in whois, they can make bulk WIPO, but if they should WIPO me i.e. 20 domains one-by-one, they will not do it due to its costs. It's just matter of numbers, for me and for them.

By typosquatting I give ammunition to companies, thats true, but only against ME MYSELVES. Never saw WIPO decision based on "because there is a lot of typosquatters there".


If you use the root server in Virginia, you may may be subject to US jurisdiction.

Again - I am subject only to laws valid at jurisdiction, where I am located in. I tell you an example - in my country is crime "harm of the creditor" - that means, if you have debts and limited funds, you can not select just some creditor and pay him, you need to give to all creditors part according their debt share.

One guy commited this crime and run to the USA. My country asked USA to return him as he commited a crime. But as according US laws this is NOT a crime, they rejected to return him. And it works both ways, either you like it or not.

Put up --or shut up!!

Yet again someone who think he can order me... I even did not listen to bolshevik's orders 15~20 years ago, why should I listen to yours ? I will not shut up, I will not shut up, kiss my #$$, I will not shut up... You should know, as a REAL lawyer, a threat/order without consequences following if not fullfilled, is not only empty threat, is funny and laughable. It is a dog which does not bite. So bite me Mr. REAL lawyer (or SHUT UP ;-~~~)

First, I am not a lawyer. You don't seem to accept my personal views. So, I was suggesting you get an objective opinion from a lawyer, not offering one myself.

Many people on this board are getting tired of the repercussions from cybersquatters and other criminals.

What you (and others) are proudly and defiantly claiming to do, allegedly willfully stealing intellectual property in a systematic way with multiple victims, looks an awful lot like racketeering.

Is it civil racketeering? Is it criminal racketeering? Can you be extradicted to the US or punished where you are now? Who knows? But you are playing with a dragon.

All I know is that the tide seems to be changing. Many of us are getting fed up. Alot of us would like to see you put out of business.

 

[Focus]

Who you and Stocdoctor?

I love it...all of the sudden the domain business and DNF is turning into a bunch of people talking down to and preaching to each other about business and "domain typo" ethics..you know what..maybe everyone should mind their own damn business about how we all make our money.

 

[denny007]

I am not a lawyer. You don't seem to accept my personal views

Than I misunderstood "Let's here from a REAL lawyer", sorry


Many people on this board are getting tired of the repercussions from cybersquatters and other criminals.

Crime is a violation of the criminal law. I am not breaking any criminal law in my jurisdiction. If you call me a criminal, can I call you also names ? Like hysterical piece of sh*t ?

Many of us are getting fed up. Alot of us would like to see you put out of business.

Many of us like the income. A lot of us would like to get more TM typo domains.

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

Who you and Stocdoctor?

I love it...all of the sudden the domain business and DNF is turning into a bunch of people talking down to and preaching to each other about business and "domain typo" ethics..you know what..maybe everyone should mind their own damn business about how we all make our money.

You could say that.

You could also say DNF is turning into a "den of thieves," a Cybersquatters Cafe, run by Cybersquatters Local Union 1025.

"Mind my own business?"

That's the problem, your business is effecting MY business.

 

[denny007]

That's the problem, your business is effecting MY business

I can tell you, that common internet public is not pissed-off about some typos, but most of them are pissed-off about the fact that all possible good domains are kept by speculants like you, undeveloped, parked, asking exorbitant sums of money for it. Although your way might be totally legitimate, people hate YOU much more than ME...