How much is 1st place Google worth to you?

[south]

A few interesting things in here, came in this morning:

http://www.webceo.com/newsletter/150109.html

 

[Biggie]

I understand the value of the keywords at the top of Google, depends directly on the amount of potential traffic that they are able to bring in from real search engine users. Of course other factors come into play also, including the amount of money that could be made from the website that is listed in the first place position.

The value of this type of search engine exposure depends on what you are able to do with it once the results that you desire, once they have been successfully achieved.
The value will definitely have more potential worth to someone that had a very good use for it.

When many websites are trying to complete for the same keywords, it would seemingly increase the value of the keywords, because more websites are competing to be listed at the top of the search engine.

all of what you say, we already know


as a "claimed" seo expert, please state something we don't know


and also, there is no need to continue to link to google, yahoo and msn...we all know how to find them.

thanks

 

[Jeroen]

nice thread.
I think we all agree that a #1 position on google is only worth something if you are getting traffic from that position. You have to use the right keywords. The more competitive those keywords, the harder it will be to get a #1 position.

You will not get a lot of visitors to your site if you are going to optimise for keywords 'Pina Colada Siberia' even if it ranks #1 at the same time in G. Because no one is using this search term.

 

[Gerry]

all of what you say, we already know


as a "claimed" seo expert, please state something we don't know


and also, there is no need to continue to link to google, yahoo and msn...we all know how to find them.

thanks

That is, I guess, why I am so confused.

I was under the impression we were being told what the top keyword search was and who had it.

All sites can contain the top keyword (free) search but there can only be one free.com or sex.com. That still does not prevent anyone from including those terms in their keyword or their metatags.

For the most part, any of us who have sites can easily claim the top spot on Google, MSN, Yahoo, or Baidu depending on what we search from and how we word it.

That is why I am not sure where this thread was headed and why it just kind of went weird all of a sudden.

There was some very good information and ideas coming out for the most part.

You're right, Biggie...it may have been an attempt to bait traffic.

 

[ecomindia]

Will like to share when i was a newbie in here way back about 9 yrs back,
Put the content (with no intention of any google top 10 blah blah) uploaded and shared with friends. 3 yrs after this mini site was uploaded , realized this was coming for most of my serarched phrases in top 10.

I was surprised but obsession took over to make other domains at top 10 too..

Went thru the ebooks, guides, sites, and all the mediums which made me feel like an SEO but to my surprise, what ever I optmized (about 5 years back), they never came in Top 100.

To understand the hidden and the most expenive blue print ( to my opinion - the google algorithm after mona-lisa painting), it works on many elements which can never be written and explianed easily.

Their ranking depends on the
1) content - about (all w's & h's what who whom where etc), geo aspects, duplicates, relative content etc..
2) meta tags - depending on the content, servers, locations , tags, indexed pages
3) SEO strategies - links, backlinks, external/internal, their quality/quanity, no ffa, linked site categories effecting PPC and revenue generation

These are just the very few TO BEGIN WITH, it will take all night but will be difficult to get to the point -> Good night.
2)

 

[SEO_Expert]

What I am saying in a nut shell is; the value is directly related to potential worth.

- It is only worth as much as you can get out of it. -

If someone is able to make more money from it, then it is worth more money to them.

If something does not have value, it is labeled as worthless.

If it is worth something to someone then it has value...

 

[copper]

nice thread.
I think we all agree that a #1 position on google is only worth something if you are getting traffic from that position. You have to use the right keywords. The more competitive those keywords, the harder it will be to get a #1 position.

You will not get a lot of visitors to your site if you are going to optimise for keywords 'Pina Colada Siberia' even if it ranks #1 at the same time in G. Because no one is using this search term.

That's exactly my point.
How many people are searching for that exact keyword.
How valuable is one visitor for that keyword.

Anyone would be super impressed if someone come and say "I have #1 position for "mortgage" on Google".

 

[Jeroen]

Anyone would be super impressed if someone come and say "I have #1 position for "mortgage" on Google".

It's got to be someone and I would like to know how he did it

 

[Gerry]

To understand the hidden and the most expenive blue print ( to my opinion - the google algorithm after mona-lisa painting), it works on many elements which can never be written and explianed easily.

Their ranking depends on the
1) content - about (all w's & h's what who whom where etc), geo aspects, duplicates, relative content etc..
2) meta tags - depending on the content, servers, locations , tags, indexed pages
3) SEO strategies - links, backlinks, external/internal, their quality/quanity, no ffa, linked site categories effecting PPC and revenue generation

These are just the very few TO BEGIN WITH, it will take all night but will be difficult to get to the point -> Good night.
2)

Worth quoting.

You also mentioned a word that immediately brought this to mind -

a very worthwhile book Search Engine Optimization: Your visual blueprintfor effective Internet marketing (Paperback). NOT an affiliate link.

I had started to read it but put it aside to work on another important matter but will start over again.

I have read rave reviews about this book and the format it is in.

 

[Jeroen]

Thanks for the tip doc.
There's also a book available "SEO made easy" by Brad Callen. Its available as a free download across the internet and tackles the issues discussed in this topic, a must read imho.

 

[Gerry]

Thanks for the tip doc.
There's also a book available "SEO made easy" by Brad Callen. Its available as a free download across the internet and tackles the issues discussed in this topic, a must read imho.

Don't leave us hanging - gotta link?

 

[Jeroen]

This one's #1 on google for "SEO made easy"

http://www.homebiz-direct.com/SEO-made-easy.html

 

[Gerry]

Thanks for the link, Jeroen, as well as the PM.

Stay safe!

 

[loredan]

how about #5 for italian recipes??.......out of 907,000 search results.....with NO QUOTES!..

How about #1 ...out of 483,000,000 search results ...with NO QUOTES!

( or 2nd out of 18,000,000 or 45,000,000 or...)

 

[copper]

How about #1 ...out of 483,000,000 search results ...with NO QUOTES!

( or 2nd out of 18,000,000 or 45,000,000 or...)

That is impressive on the surface.
What's the keyword? That's more important

 

[ecomindia]

in continuation of my earlier post,.i forgot to mention the other important aspect...

domain name - extention, history, age (worth only for websites, and if avail), hyphens, owner(if avail) etc

server hosting , where, which server , no bad ip, no spam history, etc

google, yahoo, and all other prime engines uses and weights a lot , alot on these factors too..

 

[randomo]

I have a domain at Parked.com that was #4 on Google last week for a nice keyword phrase (& was starting to generate decent revenue) ... but it's not even in the top 100 now. Oh, well - easy come, easy go.

Now it's back at #4 again - don't know why, but I'm not complaining. ($3 in clicks so far today.) Easy go, easy come back!

 

[Jeroen]

Now it's back at #4 again - don't know why, but I'm not complaining. ($3 in clicks so far today.) Easy go, easy come back!

Could it be that you don't have strong backlinks? Without those SERP can fluctuate a bit.

 

[Gerry]

Could it be that you don't have strong backlinks? Without those SERP can fluctuate a bit.

when parking, you have no control over backlinks.

Actually, when parking there is very little control - period!

Even when setting keywords or language, the parking company (or whatever invisible entity there is) changes to whatever that entity feels is appropriate.

You're lucky that the set landing page would remain consistent.

then there is the issue of region, location, etc.

Google seems to be much more intuitive when conducting searches lately.

I have noticed the searched terms are nearly filled in on the google search as I am typing. It is not anything new but it does seem to be better and better.

This may also be a reason for PPC revenue going down with google feeds. If it has a more intuitive search, then that search will be different every time based on the viewers habits and history.

This is simply a theory but I have seen some strange things going on with parking no matter who the the parking company is.

 

[TurNIC.com]

www.dvdstreet.co.uk ranked #4 in google uk for the keyword "hd dvd". I am trying to do same for buydvd.co.uk for the keyword "blu ray".