How much is 1st place Google worth to you?

[Dale Hubbard]

Hi

i wouldn't have a problem "sticky'n" the thread, however i think the OP's intent was to perhaps get a few sales with the title , along with their user name.

for that reason alone, i would be hesitant.

however, if this thread can be kept "solicitation and promotional" free, and there are more contributions, then perhaps we can make it a "sticky".

Don,

I'm with you. What I actually meant was that it might be an interesting idea to create a new sticky thread in an SEO forum entitled "Dissecting the Google Algorithm". Not this one, which as you quite rightly suggest, is somewhat tainted for the reasons you state.

I think it could attract a lot of visitors over time once it was indexed.

 

[Gerry]

aZooZa I agree with the algorithm thing but it would be great to have someone from Google explain it in layman terms - which I am not sure is even possible.

Salient is so dead on with the quality backlink issue.

Networking is crucial as well. This has been kicked around a bit on this forum. The best, easiest, and quickest way of getting these backlinks would be for members to work together and do this for similar sites.

The biggest issue, and sometimes I have to remind myself, is this is a forum for domainers and not site builders.

With all the griping about parking, building sites is ever so important. But I have a feeling I am preaching to the choir or perhaps deaf ears as this has been preached time and time again - build sites!

I have offered links to sites that very few have taken me up on. The reason? Very few site builders or site owners on DNF. One of those I offered up is now number one

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,470,000 for xxxxxx xxxxx. (0.23 seconds).

Not bad for a site that is perhaps 4 or 5 months old, and:

Google PageRank™: 2/10
Alexa Traffic Rank: 2,434,350
Incoming Google Links: 1
Incoming Yahoo Links: 0
Overall Incoming Links: 21 (Overlap is possible - Estimated 1 unique links)
Outgoing Links: 40 (Ratio: 0.025% - Each Link Receives Approx. 0.043 PR)

This was a dropping domain from GoDaddy. GD does not change or alter creation date if it is caught by them, bought on TDNAM, and stays in a GD account.

The name was the keywords in itself that is so crucial. In other words, it was already branded - self branding.

This site was built using Joomla, self-taught. I still have some work to do because I want to add some videos.

It has been optimized with Adsense, Amazon, CJ, and Linkshare.

Currently, it appears that Amazon my be the winner here in hits, clicks, and purchases. They have some great widgets that can be modified.

Nothing is going to automatically be number one on anything or anywhere without some work.

 

[randomo]

Easy come, easy go?
Just like that?

Why can't you make site for it and get that position back :?:

Well, I could certainly try ... but that would involve actual effort. (My to-do list is pretty long right now.) Thanks for the idea, though.

 

[Biggie]

Don,

I'm with you. What I actually meant was that it might be an interesting idea to create a new sticky thread in an SEO forum entitled "Dissecting the Google Algorithm". Not this one, which as you quite rightly suggest, is somewhat tainted for the reasons you state.

I think it could attract a lot of visitors over time once it was indexed.

Feel free to start one, with the title you suggest and if it takes off then we can stick it

Originally Posted by Doc Com

aZooZa I agree with the algorithm thing but it would be great to have someone from Google explain it in layman terms - which I am not sure is even possible.

that would be nice Doc, but i don't think any google rep is going to divulge their algo secrets

 

[tonyfloyd]

One of those I offered up is now number one in
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,470,000 for xxxxxx xxxxx. (0.23 seconds).

Not bad for a site that is perhaps 4 or 5 months old, and:

Doc...ok...but what is the keyword??...is it a highly searched keyword....anybody can rank #1 for a keyword......ranking #1 for a HIGHLY searched keyword is a whole other story...

 

[copper]

Hi

i wouldn't have a problem "sticky'n" the thread, however i think the OP's intent was to perhaps get a few sales with the title , along with their user name.

for that reason alone, i would be hesitant.

however, if this thread can be kept "solicitation and promotional" free, and there are more contributions, then perhaps we can make it a "sticky".

Good point.
However, most DNF members are NOT fools you know.
They will see thru it clearly
Furthermore, OP don't even post on his own thread anyway.
Seems like OP abandoned his own thread.

 

[Dale Hubbard]

Don, it's not about anyone from Google divulging secrets. My idea is about an interpretive-type thread where the Google verbiage might be analysed and debated by members. Given that this subject is one of the most evocative in the industry, it could be a great thread. My 2c.

 

[Biggie]

Good point.
However, most DNF members are NOT fools you know.
They will see thru it clearly
Furthermore, OP don't even post on his own thread anyway.
Seems like OP abandoned his own thread.

probably abandoned because the knowledge expressed by others, rendered his possible intent useless.

it's hard to sell a service when others know how to get the same or similiar results at no cost to them, especially when they are willing to share how it can be done.

Don, it's not about anyone from Google divulging secrets. My idea is about an interpretive-type thread where the Google verbiage might be analysed and debated by members. Given that this subject is one of the most evocative in the industry, it could be a great thread. My 2c.

i was basically responding to "Doc Com's" comment, and have no problem with want you want to do.

go for it

 

[cleverlyslick]

T

btw, your post triggered my curiosity, so...
I just checked stats for it and it got 526 unique visitors for this month.
So, there are some people who is looking, yes?

yes it's treating me better than parking that's for sure :yes:

at the end of the day,besides SEO, i believe hand to hand promotion is STILL #1.even for promoting a website.i remember Calvin Ayre the owner of a famous gambling site we probably all know of.i was in 42nd street with a buddy of mine and this guy was promoting his website with a bunch of girls in bikini's handing out flyers.IT WAS FREEZING THAT DAY! i bet that promotion worked perfect for him.sometimes we gotta get up off our leather behinds and put in work ourselves too.just my two cents

 

[SEO_Expert]

I many websites that are first place at all three major search engines, Google, Yahoo, and MSN for short and hard to get keywords. - To see example feel free to contact me, I do not want to post example within this forum.

 

[whitebark]

Getting the top spots and even getting extended listings is not magic. You simply have to create an original website that people want to visit, want to link to and follows all the usual seo procedures. Easy-peasy. k:

 

[Gerry]

- Any Idea's or Thoughts? -

A keyword phrase can be subject to change in a heart beat.

Jan 15, 2009 - change date
Updated 59 minutes ago


iGoogle Gadget New! Site Feed
1. hudson river
2. plane crash hudson river
3. us airways crash
4. us airways flight 1549
5. us airways hudson river
6. airbus a320
7. new york news
8. bird strike
9. ny1
10. ny news
11. 1010 wins
12. airplane crash
13. wnbc
14. indie 103.1
15. ny1 live
16. plane crash new york
17. constant contact
18. nyc news
19. nbc news
20. mls draft 2009
21. wcbs
22. cnn live
23. daniel depp
24. marshfield hills general store
25. us air plane crash

26. us airways flight 1549 goes down in hudson river
27. down to you
28. ny one
29. casey carlson
30. wabc tv
31. ny1 news
32. u.s. airways
33. bob schimmel
34. tyler layton
35. waterboarding
36. breaking news
37. margaret o brien
38. henry waxman
39. cnn.com live
40. kuril islands
41. us airways jet crashes into new york s hudson river
42. fox news live
43. waterboarding video
44. ashley estell
45. barry zito
46. indie 103
47. give me liberty
48. channel 4 new york
49. waterboarding definition
50. eric holder

51. smurfit stone
52. cbs news
53. taylor bean whitaker
54. new york tv stations
55. nbc ny
56. wcbs 880
57. eyewitness news
58. wfc
59. jim schwartz
60. generation adidas
61. misty farmer
62. emily hughes
63. 1010 news
64. britney stevens
65. msnbc tv
66. times union
67. airbus crash
68. msnbc live
69. bank of america stock
70. peanut butter cracker recall
71. lance thompson
72. laguardia
73. usairways
74. inauguration day 2009
75. obama inauguration events

76. norrbottenspets
77. a320 crash
78. mls superdraft
79. emily hughes american idol
80. traci tapp
81. michael yon
82. constant contact phone number
83. winter hill gang
84. 7online
85. austin crackers
86. steve zakuani
87. james whitey bulger
88. megan allen
89. fox 5 ny
90. uss intrepid
91. abc news
92. mavericks surf
93. carol higgins clark
94. 7 online
95. doug reinhart
96. trammell crow
97. bush farewell address
98. mls soccer
99. what is waterboarding torture
100. cbs ny

 

[SEO_Expert]

My Website has been at the Top of Google for these keywords for well over a year now.

(Same with Yahoo and MSN)

 

[Gerry]

I am sorry, perhaps I misunderstand.

Are you saying that advertise instantly and publish ads are the top keywords on Google, MSN, and Yahoo?

Or that you have sites in the number one spots using those keywords?

 

[SEO_Expert]

My website is First place at Google, Yahoo, and MSN for those keywords and many other similar keywords and keyword phrases.

 

[copper]

How much would these be worth to anyone that can find value in it?

- Any Idea's or Thoughts? -

Sorry, but, I don't see anything impressive about that.

As other people and I repeated over and over, it's not
what position you get is important.

What's important is how competitive is that keyword.
How many people are doing search for that keyword?

For the keyword "advertise instantly" do not show anything
for "Approx Avg Search Volume" according to Google Keyword Tool.

It says "Not enough data" and it must be lower than 320/mth
since "earn money fast and easy" show 320/mth search.

"publish ads" are little better with 720/mth search.

And according to same source, "mind orgasm" show 1,900/mth
and I haven't done anything special for the site.

So, imho, it's not worth much because not many people are
typing in "advertise instantly" or "publish ads".

I am just answering your question.
Sorry.

Now, if you can get site on first page for "keyword" that gets
searched over 100,000/mth on Google, that would be good.

If you can do that, I am sure you'll have no problem getting customers
assuming your fee is reasonable.

 

[SEO_Expert]

I understand the value of the keywords at the top of Google, depends directly on the amount of potential traffic that they are able to bring in from real search engine users. Of course other factors come into play also, including the amount of money that could be made from the website that is listed in the first place position.

The value of this type of search engine exposure depends on what you are able to do with it once the results that you desire, once they have been successfully achieved.
The value will definitely have more potential worth to someone that had a very good use for it.

When many websites are trying to complete for the same keywords, it would seemingly increase the value of the keywords, because more websites are competing to be listed at the top of the search engine.

 

[Gerry]

I am suddenly understanding less and less of this thread.

 

[cleverlyslick]

I am suddenly understanding less and less of this thread.

I THINK what seo expert is trying to say is that the more webmasters compete for keywords, the more it cost per click which in turn can pay you more money per click.i could be wrong though.

 

[Gerry]

the more webmasters compete for keywords, the more it cost per click which in turn can pay you more money per click.i could be wrong though.

Those two things I understand...

the first part and...

you could be wrong :approve: