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IDN's dropping like flies

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I don't mind busting your unthought of statements each and every time. You have proven that you are nothing but an IDN fan-boi, and your arguments each and every time hold no water.

How do you say "busted" in Chinese?



Another day, another duck poop.

Ofcourse no stand up guy here , only resorts to personal attacks when he has no valid points or doenst want to answer a question
 

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IDNebook, stop repeating yourself. It gets boring. Same thing happened with Wiz, he's all quiet now. Still waiting for his infamous IDN domains to have a good laugh at :-D
 

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Acroplex said:
I don't mind busting your unthought of statements each and every time. You have proven that you are nothing but an IDN fan-boi, and your arguments each and every time hold no water.

Well it's funny how you managed to skip by this. Below or Above. Depending on how you want to look at it.

These below are facts not opinions. :fencing:


Oh, there are already google trends for these IDN domains with the extentions not to mention hardcore numbers to back them up with ovt. These will work, they are working, they just need a browser to be able to type them in.

Here is the link to the google trends for a few IDNs

http://google.com/trends?q=%E4%B8%80%E4%BC%91.com%2C+%E6%AF%94%E8%BC%83.com%2C+%E3%82%AB%E3%83%AA%E3%83%93%E3%82%A2%E3%83%B3.com%2C+%E8%90%8C%E3%81%88.jp&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all


Here are the numbers from Overture japan for these domains that I've referenced.

37,211 萌え.jp
48,896 一休.com
17,975 比較.com
13.386 カリビアン.com

Here's a link to Japan Overture

http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/?mkt=jp

Everytime facts are presented you seem to some how, just miss those posts. Funny how that works out.
 

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IDNebook, stop repeating yourself. It gets boring. Same thing happened with Wiz, he's all quiet now. Still waiting for his infamous IDN domains to have a good laugh at :-D

I'll wait for dilpup to post his "revenue" stats.. hopefully he will
 

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IDNebook, stop repeating yourself. It gets boring. Same thing happened with Wiz, he's all quiet now. Still waiting for his infamous IDN domains to have a good laugh at :-D

Truth is the Truth Buddy , just because you want everbody to stoop to youre level so you can beat us with experience it wont happen here. We will present the facts and like sarcle said you will continue to miss them.

Mark Twain " "Never argue with an idiot. He will lower you to his level and beat you with experience."


Sarcle Oh said:
http://google.com/trends?q=%E4%B8%80%E4%BC%91.com%2C+%E6%AF%94%E8%BC[/url] %83.com%2C+%E3%82%AB%E3%83%AA%E3%83%93%E3%82%A2%E3 %83%B3.com%2C+%E8%90%8C%E3%81%88.jp&ctab=0&geo=all &date=all


Here are the numbers from Overture japan for these domains that I've referenced.

37,211 萌え.jp
48,896 一休.com
17,975 比較.com
13.386 カリビアン.com

Here's a link to Japan Overture
 

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Truth is the Truth Buddy , just because you want everbody to stoop to youre level so you can beat us with experience it wont happen here. We will present the facts and like sarcle said you will continue to miss them.

Mark Twain " "Never argue with an idiot. He will lower you to his level and beat you with experience."

Learn to spell, or are you too upset to distinguish between "your" and "you're"? But hey, it's ok to be upset when you have no numbers to back up your claims. Clutching onto chickenscratch domains is not what I do, unlike you.

Mark Twain is dead. I guess he wasn't as smart as his famous quotes.
 

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Learn to spell, or are you too upset


Dont tell me that tell 80% of the worlds population to spell the english language correct when they are typing in domains ! Change that sig of yours to " Personal attacks No Facts " or " I envy the "fool" who registered IDN domains ! "
 

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I envy the foo' who admits they are a foo. But I don't envy you, IDNscapbook.

Lata, dinner time. Don't get too bored without me eh?
 

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http://www.webhostdir.com/news/articles/shownews.asp?id=18028

Internationalised Domain Names Road - Progress and Future

"ICANN has a clear process for the introduction of IDNs. There is much intense work being done by ICANN committees and the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF). That includes IETF standards, testing and rules discussions. A substantial amount of this work is now coming to fruition" said Dr Paul Twomey, President and CEO of ICANN.

"ICANN expects that these final tests and discussions will reach a resolution by the end of 2007" Dr Twomey said.

"Making changes to the root zone file is ICANN's responsibility. But this is no simple task. If we get this wrong we could very easily and permanently break the Internet" Dr Twomey said.

The first major step, has been achieved. ICANN's guidelines and the work of the various registries on second level domains means that many people are already expressing their on-line identification in their own scripts.

"Millions of people in Europe and Asia whose languages do not rely on Roman characters are already reaping the benefits of this work" Dr Twomey said.

"We are now in the final stages of what is a very complex process, that is, putting IDNs to the right of the dot" he said.

ICANN is currently conducting laboratory tests to determine the readiness of the root zone file (the master file of all identifiers) and its associated root servers and resolvers to house or work with IDNs. This process, including the results will be made public on ICANN's website: www.icann.org

"Depending on the results of laboratory testing, ICANN will then perform live root zone tests. At this time application providers such as browser developers can also participate in the test" Dr Twomey said.

The design of the test is anticipated to be available for public scrutiny in early November, and the live root zone tests will be conducted and ready for analysis by December 2006. All information related to the laboratory testing will be made publicly available at www.icann.org.

"If these testing processes are successful, as we expect them to be, we will have the technical solution. But there are also policy issues that are simultaneously in discussion, concerning the creation of new top level domains including IDNs. We need both the technical and the policy issues to be resolved to complete this process" Dr Twomey said.

The policy issues are currently being discussed in a variety of areas within ICANN's structure that includes end users, technicians, registries and registrars, intellectual property experts, linguistics experts and Governments.

One example is the GNSO (Generic Names Supporting Organization) which through its constituencies is tasked with the development of policy matters related to the generic top level domains (such as .org and .info). Other constituencies with work underway in this field are:
Very importantly, the GAC (Governmental Advisory Committee),

The ccNSO (country code names supporting organization) and many more.


"ICANN believes that all this testing and discussions will reach a resolution by the end of 2007" Dr Twomey said.

"We are committed to the introduction of IDN top level domains as soon as all these necessary processes are complete" he said.

This will include IDN versions of country code names as well as generic top level domains.

A description of some of ICANNs work on IDNs so far and a roadmap for the way ahead is attached.

IDN ROADMAP

20 June 2003 ICANN supported by leading IDN Registries such as cn, info, jp, org, tw, announced the commencement of global deployment of Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) in the second level domain.

21 October 2003 Advisory Concerning Registry Requests for Authorization to Offer IDN Registrations

18 February 2004 ICANN approves a temporary set of procedures to improve the mechanisms for transferring IDNs between registrars.

3 June 2004 ICANN Announces IDN Workshop to be held 21 July 2004 in Kuala Lumpur

18 November 2004 ICANN Announces IDN Workshop to be held in Cape Town, South Africa

23 February 2005 ICANN Statement Regarding IDN Homograph Concerns

14 September 2005 Formal Call for Papers Concerning Deployment of Internationalized Top Level Domains

20 September 2005 Draft Revised IDN Guidelines: Public Comment Period

17 October 2005 Draft Revised IDN Guidelines. The French version of the draft revised Guidelines for the Implementation of Internationalized Domain Names ("IDN Guidelines")

31 October 2005 IDN Guideline Revision Update

7 November 2005 Final Proposed Draft IDN Guidelines Posted

14 November 2005 IDN Guidelines Version 2.0 Finalized. The revision focuses on eliminating spoofing between labels

17 November 2005 Implementation of Internationalized Top Level Domains. As previously announced, IDN workshop will be held during the ICANN Vancouver meeting

27 February 2006 IDN Guidelines Posting of Version 2.1

28 May 2006 Policy Issues relating to IDN at the top-level - Preliminary Issues Report. On request from the GNSO Council, ICANN staff prepares a preliminary Issues Report setting out policy issues for introduction of IDNs

23 June 2006 PIR Releases Principles for the Foundation of Top Level IDNs

5 October 2006 ICANN Establishes Internationalized Domain Names (IDN) News Feed

11 October 2006 Review and Recommendations for Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs)

19 October 2006 IDN Laboratory Testing: ICANN has engaged Autonomica AB to develop, conduct and report the results of laboratory testing. The laboratory technical tests of the viability of internationalized top level levels and the effect they may have on the DNS are being done before insertion of such labels in the root servers. The laboratory test focuses solely on a replicate that is as close as possible to the server software of the various root servers. As such it is not a test that includes the end-user perspective, or a live root test

31 October 2006 IDNA Protocol Review and Proposals for Change



Where We Head Next
ICANN laboratory testing of top level IDNs in the root

Crucial for DNS resolver reactions

Allows Testing of maximum and minimum length IDNs, other variations

ICANN testing of IDNs in live Root Zone File

Crucial for Browser and other applications reactions

Cooperative, multi-stakeholder IDN policy formation Crucial for DNS resolver reactions

Adoption of new gTLD (and IDN) rules

Identification of IDN ccTLDs

Specification of characters allowed in IDNs

Note potential disputes over who has rights to IDN TLDs

Implementation and testing of infrastructure and application software

Installation of IDN TLDs into root zone file by ICANN


ICANN is also in the process of developing and implementing an outreach plan to insure better coordination among all bodies that are necessary for the implementation of internationalized top level labels into the Internet.

About ICANN
ICANN is a non-profit organization responsible for coordinating the Internet's systems of unique identifiers, including the systems of domain names and numeric addresses that are used to reach computers on the Internet*. ICANN's mission is to ensure the stable and secure operation of these unique identifier systems, which are vital to the Internet's operation. In addition, ICANN coordinates policy development related to these technical functions through its effective bottom-up consensus model.

(* This includes responsibility for Internet Protocol (IP) address space allocation, protocol identifier assignment, generic (gTLD) and country code (ccTLD) Top-Level Domain name system management, and root zone management for the root server system)

Source: ICANN
 

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I'll wait for dilpup to post his "revenue" stats.. hopefully he will


We can estimate:

130,000 pageviews per month
9 cents avg per click
35% CTR
Total per mth: ~$4000 (+/-10%) a mth on IE7 and mozilla (15% mkt share?)

I envy dilpup, but for those that saw his 2004/5 idn posts on namepros and didn't act on it, you can blame no one else.

People are earning real money from idns, so no amount of "talk down" is going to make them let go of their names. This is not .mobi or .info where there is no PPC basis.


Anyway, the ultimate will come from TDC, if their portfolio ever goes public, i won't be surprised if every month they make up to $100k in PPC from their 30k super prime IDN portfolio.
 

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We can estimate:

130,000 pageviews per month
9 cents avg per click
35% CTR
Total per mth: ~$4000 (+/-10%) a mth on IE7 and mozilla (15% mkt share?)

I envy dilpup, but for those that saw his 2004/5 idn posts on namepros and didn't act on it, you can blame no one else.

People are earning real money from idns, so no amount of talk down is going to make them let go of their names. This is not .mobi or .info.

close but probably he's making around that now.

8 months ago on dnforum he stated he was making around $3500/mo on his IDNs.
 

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close but probably he's making around that now.

8 months ago on dnforum he stated he was making around $3500/mo on his IDNs.

Plesase feel free to put me in touch with him and he wants to sell, I will buy.

Risk or no risk.

-=DCG=-
 

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close but probably he's making around that now.

8 months ago on dnforum he stated he was making around $3500/mo on his IDNs.

Oh, so my estimate is very near. I do recognize at least a few people earning equal, and even many times more than that (based on estimation).

Ooo, idns are dropping like flies. :p


Note: Newbies, bewarned, such idn earnings are based on generics or names with big type-in.
 

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probably I did not undertsand but when I read the Icann Roadmap and what they are going to do next, it seems that they still have to establish maximun lenght and characters allowed in IDNs plus other things listed again below:

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Allows Testing of maximum and minimum length IDNs, other variations

ICANN testing of IDNs in live Root Zone File

Crucial for Browser and other applications reactions

Cooperative, multi-stakeholder IDN policy formation Crucial for DNS resolver reactions

Adoption of new gTLD (and IDN) rules

Identification of IDN ccTLDs

Specification of characters allowed in IDNs

Note potential disputes over who has rights to IDN TLDs

Implementation and testing of infrastructure and application software

Installation of IDN TLDs into root zone file by ICANN

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All these words seem to me that the actual IDNs we register may be totally useless....but since my english is still not perfect, probaly I`m not undertstanding something. Right?
 

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Well, probably they are thinking about restricting single digit idns, like we can't register a.com or m.com?

Whatever they is registered, remains registered. If you got something like é.com, you might have struck lottery - prepare to renew for 10 years.
 

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Well, probably they are thinking about restricting single digit idns, like we can't register a.com or m.com?

Whatever they is registered, remains registered. If you got something like é.com, you might have struck lottery - prepare to renew for 10 years.

I doubt if there is anything serious left in single character domains. I don't think accented Latins are going to be hugely valuable, but I might be wrong.
 

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I doubt if there is anything serious left in single character domains. I don't think accented Latins are going to be hugely valuable, but I might be wrong.


Valuable is really a relative term. For sure, accented latins can't beat the Euro sign. In fact, i can think of very few domains, ascii or idn that can beat the Euro sign.
 
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