multiple domain forwarding = higher SE rank?

[David G]

If you have a name reg'd with Godaddy or Wild West go there and activate something called Masked Forwarding from their menu. You can then specify the site it redirects to and even use various metatags including its own title and description which gets indexed in the SE's.

But when someone goes to the url the redirected domain shows in the browser window - not the redirected to website name, making it seem like each domain has its own website. Not only will you get extra traffic due to the SE listing but also more credibility as it appears the name has its own website when it does not.

 

[seeker]

Yes, I remembering seeing that in GD and asking support to clarify.
But doing it locally on my server gives many 'creative' advantages, as well of course as complete control and the ability to do this without using GD/WWD as the only registrar

 

[David G]

Yes, I remembering seeing that in GD and asking support to clarify. But doing it locally on my server gives many 'creative' advantages, as well of course as complete control and the ability to do this without using GD/WWD as the only registrar

Right, I stopped using GD/WW forwarding as I want full control myself rather than rely on someone else. Plus, if you ever switch registrars all that tedious setup work needs to be done over from scratch.

Since I swtiched from WW Masked Forwarding I was forced to use Server Domain Pointing on my server, regular redirect, or htaccess as an alternative. Not nearly as desirable or beneficial as Masked Forwarding as the address of the real website appears in the browser window. Find it hard to believe no one at all these forums knows how to do this, even for money!

P.S. Until fairly recently BuyDomains.com did hundreds of thousands of masked forwarding (all their names for sale) and when you typed in a domain for sale url it looked like the name had its own customized for sale page with the name in the browser window (it was actually a boiler plate page in the BD main website), but now they are using a much different system.

 

[Momentum]

Just mirror the content from your main site to your other 10 sites and make sure that each of the ten websites link to your main site. Of course the search engines do not like duplicate content so this will only be a temporary boost in link popularity which may last only for a month or two.

 

[David G]

Just mirror the content from your main site to your other 10 sites and make sure that each of the ten websites link to your main site. Of course the search engines do not like duplicate content so this will only be a temporary boost in link popularity which may last only for a month or two.

Thanks for trying to help but it appears you have totally misunderstood the issue and your answer does not seem to be applicable.

 

[cwsteam.com]

dont do that. If you want to reap the benefit, use 301 redirects only. This wil transfer any PR / linkpop benefits to the target domain. Ask me any SEO questions guys.

 

[xalex]

Well i know what you are trying to do. If I am not mistaken you are tryiny to do this right?

http://domain1.com/features.shtml == http://domain2.com/features.shtml

Without having duplicate files correct? One problem though, It does not help your SERP. Google will see duplicate content and drop one.

I have this set up for one of my site so know this from experience. Send me some DN$, I will PM you the links and you can look for yourself. lol

 

[Rock Slatestone]

P.S. Yes, Seeker, it does in fact result in all 10 domains as in your example being listed in Google, though only 1 domain really has its own website. In the past I did that using WW and every domain on masked forwarding was listed in Google including the metatags indexed.

Does the fact that frames are involved cause Google's spidering to get caught up in anyway? Is there anything special needed to be done here, in regards to pointing Google in the right direction?

Tank Ewe,

Rock

 

[David G]

Does the fact that frames are involved cause Google's spidering to get caught up in anyway? Is there anything special needed to be done here, in regards to pointing Google in the right direction?
Tank Ewe, Rock

Right now Seeker and I are only worried about how to do it = i.e. having 10 domains on Masked Forwarding to only 1 real website. Once we figure that out (if we do) then we can worry about Google but thanks anyway for reactivating this thread.

I told Seeker 7 days ago (post 17) to not hold his breath waiting for our answer and too bad I was right.

 

[Marval]

Use domain aliasing (can be set up by your host) to put all domains that you want to do this on one IP - make sure all links to internal pages on the main site are "relative" so they show up as domain2.com/example.html instead of the original sites domain1.com/example.html - although some people have hinted at it here - Google will pick one and give it all of the link popularity (its usually the domain1.com as long as that is the one with most inbound links) - and this will accomplish what you want. In order to get what you are seeing in the adult side of things in Google, you basically need different servers, whois's and IPs, and a good page generator script - Those come from someone dumping 50k pages at once and hoping that 50 will get into the SERPs

added - keep in mind that Google will not find any domain, without a link coming into it

 

[Nova]

Here's an excellent article that answers the question well: http://www.highrankings.com/issue060.htm (scroll down the page to "How To Redirect Multiple Parked Domains").

 

[methods]

i think i know how this can be done.

if all the sites are for the same thing which i assume they are.

You make the main site, then for all the rest you just pull the content from the main site into their page with javascipt.

wouldnt be redirecting though but would be pulling, or the other way is say :

redirected 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 urls our coded identical except for title and keywords in a main holder page "index", and identical in bottom frame to a t saying meta refresh 0 to the main sites lower freame,, quit simple.

the "key thing" is to do the title and keywords in the main page of each, not the frames and put in each index page of each site the robots no follow code
or you will be having people coming all over to just a frame page,follow?


plus if search engines notice duplicate stuff its going to be a commonality of the framed pages not the actual site so it will drop or want to drop them but so what you dont want them indexed anyhow.

 

[David G]

Here's an excellent article that answers the question well: http://www.highrankings.com/issue060.htm (scroll down the page to "How To Redirect Multiple Parked Domains").

The problem is that with Ms. Whalen's solution it seems to be the exact opposite of what Seeker and I are looking for.

She said this in the link article ".....now if you try to go to webwhiz.net or any of my other domain names, you'll see HighRankings.com in the location field of your browser. This is exactly as it should be, whereas before you'd see the other domain name."

In other words, we want the browser window to say webwhiz.net and NOT the actual site name, which in her example is highrankings.com, the real website. Oddly she say's before it worked the way we wanted it to and she feels her new non-masked way is better than her old way but do not see details on how she got it to work the way we want in the first place.
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[methods]

that way is just dumb and to complicated, if you want me to help you I will.


just tell me the names of all the sites

all it is ..is frames and sometimes javascript src calls, thats it.

wait a sec....now im confused.....

are these domains hosted?
are they are on same register, same name server?

that way is just dumb and to complicated, if you want me to help you I will.


just tell me the names of all the sites

all it is ..is frames and sometimes javascript src calls, thats it.

wait a sec....now im confused.....

are these domains hosted?
are they are on same register, same name server?

here found this to http://www.dynonames.com/forward-domains.htm middle product.


imho easiest thing would just get a host where you can have unlimited domains .

 

[chatcher]

In other words, we want the browser window to say webwhiz.net and NOT the actual site name, which in her example is highrankings.com, the real website.
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You're trying to make something complicated out of something simple. You don't need javascript, forwarding, frames, masking, cloaking, redirects, etc. You just need one website that is either IP-based (rather than host-based) OR a host-based website that allows multiple host names or aliases. If you have an IP-based website, anything that resolves to the IP, regardless of domain name, even the IP itself, goes to the website, and whatever the user typed in the browser address bar to get there, stays there. Just be sure to use relative links (as mentioned earlier in this thread) for other pages within the site. If it's a host-based website, you'll have to configure it for every possible host address you want to work.

Some website hosting plans are not going to work well with this approach, since they are geared to single domain names with separate web space for each domain. But what you want is very simple with the right hosting plan.

I like the simple approach and don't like to do much configuration of parked domain names. I have one dedicated server (not all that expensive these days) that runs DNS, web server, and database server. The DNS is set up as wildcard DNS (matches any domain) and the web server is set up as IP-based. ANY domain name I point at the DNS of that server automatically gets pointed to the website there. No configuration required.

I went a step further and wrote a simple script (currently ASP on a Win2k3 box, but I did the same thing in the past with Perl, Apache, and Linux) that extracts the domain name, checks it against the database, and customizes the web page for the domain, if found in the database. Currently the database has a field that specifies which PPC provider to use for each domain name, and the script outputs a frame page filled with the results from that PPC program. If I want to change PPC for a domain, I just change that field (remotely using Access on my PC). Controlling the server means catching all traffic, even error traffic with custom error pages. My ISP (EV1) even provides an Urchin license, which I use for stats. A custom Urchin filter means I can track over 2000 domain names on one website. Nothing I have done is very difficult. It's just the end result of solving one little problem after another over a four year learning period.

I would recommend first to decide if you need to run your own DNS. If not, figure out what DNS you will use. Some registrars provide it free. Make sure you can set it up to match odd host names like 123.abc.456.domain.com so you don't lose any traffic. Once you have DNS find a simple hosting plan that gives you your own dedicated IP address. Point all your domain names at that IP with simple A or CNAME records. Don't use URL forwarding. You can use the same website for any number of domain names. Then get a page up. Set up custom error pages so you can catch non-existent URL's like www.domain.com/123/abc/456. Then make it a little better every day.

 

[methods]

Now Im not confused and hopefully their not... sounds like a good set up you got going on.

 

[seeker]

rocket science seems simpler to study than to get the *exact* effect I want...

 

[methods]

why dont you just host all the sites with an unlimited domain host?

then they are all truly different?

Or Just make them all the same with frame forwrding to main site?

As mentioned if you pm me with specifics on what you have, whats site is for,
etc I will do it for you.


but if you dont want the names live then only real way to do it is the way
chatcher suggested.

 

[seeker]

ok,
example.com is a site

how can :
(simply)
yodude.com
heyman.com
yo.org
surething.net
wtf.info

ALL

show their own domains while following example.com?

so that example.com/profiles/rocket.html

be the same with
WTF.info/profiles/rocket.htm

all this, wile the browser shows whatever the user typed in, for example WTF, and not be shows example.com
in other words he/she has no idear they are at example.com

 

[methods]

frames....simple really but these names have to be live not just names. follow?