My .cn domain dispute case

[.biz]

I've received e-mail from Domain Name Dispute Resolution Center for my .cn recently registered. The problem is all the document they sent me is written in Chinese.

I wrote them if they can send me the document in English, but they replied

In accordance with Article 6 of CNNIC Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (CNDRP) and Article 8 of the Rules for CNNIC Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (the CNDRP Rules), unless otherwise agreed by the Parties or determined in exceptional cases by the Panel, the language of the domain name dispute resolution proceedings shall be Chinese.
If you don't understand Chinese, you may engage a Chinese legal council as your representative if you feel it necessary.


How can I convince them to use English? Obviously the complainant has all resources they need. They're a big multi-national company. Otherwise, how do I find a Chinese domain lawyer who can also speak English?

 

[iBizStart]

Whats the domain?

 

[.biz]

I'm not sure it's a good idea to put up the domain name on the site, since I intend to fight back. I need to talk to a lawyer; or probably Chinese lawyer. Or may be a translator.

 

[Anthony Ng]

That's the reason why I have been recommending AGAINST .CN for those who don't know the language. You are in a VERY disadvantageous position; and hiring a Chinese lawyer (or even translator) isn't the least expensive thing to do on earth, especially outside China.

Having said that it *might* be a viable (and less expensive) alternative to retain a lawyer who KNOWS Chinese at least at the very beginning to get things started.

 

[888]

Originally posted by .biz
Otherwise, how do I find a Chinese domain lawyer who can also speak English?

Maybe check with the lawyers in this board if they have offices/counterparts in China familiar with .cn disputes?

 

[dtobias]

Well, if you register a country-code domain in China, you have to expect that you might get challenged in Chinese... serves you right. In a sense, this sort of thing lets Asian countries get "payback" for quite a number of cases where their citizens got challenged, in English, for their own domain registrations, and panelists turned a deaf ear to their protests that they didn't speak the language well.

 

[_Yakov_]

Very interesting...

 

[_Yakov_]

P.S. .biz good luck!

 

[timechange.com]

I would not touch the .cn with a 10 foot pole.

 

[Ari GoldbergerAri Goldberger is verified member.]

I can recommend a lawyer in Beijing, China. George Hu speaks English. I've been up against him and had dealings with him.

Email: [email protected]

Phone: +86-10-62143878

 

[.biz]

Hi Ari,

thank you for the advice. I'll contact him.

 

[izopod]

Originally posted by .biz
Hi Ari,

thank you for the advice. I'll contact him.

http://usa.biz - coming soon [not for sale]

Nice one .biz!!!

 

[DaddyHalbucks]

This is a very sobering reminder that China is a foreign country, and business there involves much risk.

 

[jberryhilljberryhill is verified member.]

You cannot convince them to use English. You agreed to resolve disputes in Chinese when you registered the domain name.

My firm has in-house Chinese translation capability, as one of our associates is a native of Beijing.

 

[.biz]

Originally posted by izopod


http://usa.biz - coming soon [not for sale]

Nice one .biz!!!

Thank you izopod. I don't have enough money to get usa.com. :shy:

 

[Ari GoldbergerAri Goldberger is verified member.]

>You cannot convince them to use English. You agreed to resolve >disputes in Chinese when you registered the domain name.

>My firm has in-house Chinese translation capability, as one of >our associates is a native of Beijing.

I would recommend going with John over my Beijing referral.

 

[apprentice]

Some recent cn domain dispute cases decisions (2003) :

allianz.cn - transfer
self.com.cn - transfer
bride.com.cn - transfer
wired.com.cn - transfer
google.com.cn- reject
qq.com.cn - reject
vogue.com.cn - transfer

 

[.biz]

Hi John,

I've been replying your email but it bounced back 3 times since yesterday.

.biz

 

[jberryhilljberryhill is verified member.]

It may be a spam filter problem.

Try jberryhill -at- ddhs.com

 

[.biz]

John, e-mail sent. Thank you.